Sat Fight

[gardenweasel]

crook

crook

can`t disagree....vitali lost much power in his shots from around the 4th on......my question is,without the cut,which dramatically affected klitschko and the fight,how would klitscko have faired???.......if you check his record,i think 7 of his last 8 bouts went into at least the 10th round.....i`m not sure he`s quite the puncher he`s made out to be....i think maybe he wears guys down........we`ll never know for sure...and as we know,cuts are part of the game....

except for the mini-referee,i have no complaints.....a great,action packed bout.....not a ton of skillful,technically correct stuff.....but, who would rather have seen a boring jabfest?

leaves both guys with many options.....the klitschko`s have been reaffirmed....great for boxing......

 

[ferdville]

Fletcher - your scenario with Lewis going for Jones, then W.K. then VK sounds absolutely right on. I wonder, though, if Lewis might think it better to avoid Jones. I realize the size difference would make it very difficult for Jones. But if Lewis didn't come in at the top of his game conditioning wise, do you think that Jones could keep his distance and torment Lewis with his quickness? I have never liked Jones and would love to see him get flattened - but he has proven to be extremely smart, if not outright clever in picking his opponents. After all, who better to fight than a guy like Ruiz for his first heavyweight shot? Jones doesn't seem to put himself in a position to lose. It would certainly be an interesting bout.

As far as Lewis and VK, I don't think anybody can be anywhere near sure about the outcome of that fight had VK not been cut. The pace had slowed down appreciably and it may have even gone the distance - lucky for me as I had the under. It is hard to tell if Lewis looked worse than usual because of VK or because he was out of shape. I am inclined to give VK more credit than a lack of conditioning - but who knows?

 

[crookycymru]

I been thinking about the lack of credit Lennox gave to Klitschko in that HBO interview, and it occured to me that after the fight was stopped, Klitschko started showboating, by climbing onto the ropes and slauting the crowd, as if he had taken the title, so perhaps I can afford Lennox a bit of arrogance.

However, I am disturbed to read reports that the Klitschko camp claim the cut was caused by a butt.......there is no way that cut was caused by a butt, but from that punch in the 3rd, where he caught him with the thumb part of the glove, and then reaffirmed that punch with a decent uppercut.

However, the more and more I see these HBO fights beamed across here, the more I dislike that Larry interviewer guy. Apart from the lack of respect he showed to Lennox, I hate the way he interviews boxers without looking at them, and looks away while he is asking his questions, as if he is the most important person in the boxing world.

What are you guys opinion about Larry? :shrug:

 

[fletcher]

He is a grumpy old man who i have ran into a few times loves the booze unlike the man hbo should have who knows boxing better and lives right out by lanny and me al burnstein would be much better if you want boxing, larry is there to stir things up if george or emanuel is on he always disagrees with them even with jim he will never agree alll a show. knows some but nothing like Al.

 

[fletcher]

For those that said fight should not of been stopped, well heard the dr. speak today about it on the radio and by the way he is a chief of surgery at a hospital in ca as a plastic surgon i think he would know. Well both cuts took a total of 88 stiches and over 2 hours to fix , they whole eye lid was dropping down over the eyeball. That is a ton of stiches unreal.

 

[british bulldog]

I've taken a few days to assess this fight before posting any comments. I will never dissagree with Fletcher when it comes to boxing as he certainly knows this sport inside out.

88 stiches is a bloody lot. I lost the top part of my middle finger many years ago and that was only 23 stitches to put that back together.

Now it is clear that Lewis was 4Kg heavier than he has been for many a year. Remember, he's 38 and his drive and zest have long gone. His last performance to merit any real distinction was when he beat Holyfield twice, but only got one discission in his favour. Remember, as it seems with all Boxers, they never know when to quit and Lewis should have retired after his second fight with Holyfield. I just keep thinking that it is greed (money) that keeps these guys going.

Lewis was clearly rocked and shaken in round two, yet from round three, Lewis slowly got himself into the fight. Yes, the cut helped Lewis, but it was Klitschko you was holding on in rounds four, five and six. I know Klitschko has won fights going into the later rounds of a fight in recent times, but these are against second rate fighters. As the fight progressed, it appeared to me that Lewis's weight was both a factor and a hindrance. It was slowly Lennox down but Klitschko was unable to push him back and this would have been further magnified as the fight moved into the later rounds.

Roy Jones might be able to move around the ring if/when he fights Lewis, but I will make one thing clear, Jones has very little chance of winning this match up. Strength and power of punch will win the day over speed.

I personnally feel that Klitschko will return to the ring but his left eye will never be the same and will open on numerous occassions. And when he gets his second shot at Lewis, we will know one thing for sure. That is Lewis will be prepared, he will weigh 7Kg lighter and will out box Klitschko. Look for a repeat similar to fight two of Lewis and Rahman.

My one sad note is what was once the best fighting division in boxing with a handful of decent fighters as turned into nothing more than a circus. Once Lewis retires, there is not one boxer left who can put bums on seats as the class of fighter drops several levels.

 

[gardenweasel]

lennox

lennox

no doubt,he is heading into the twilight of his career...this was an odd bout....change of opponents late in the game...actually,imo,a significant upgrade in opposition from kirk johnson to vitali....yes lewis came in a little soft....long layoff to boot....

i say that given his size,power and ability to adjust his gameplan(he`s not one dimensional),lennox is a top 5 all-time heavyweight....depending on how you judge it....

i mean,straight up,guys like marciano and joe louis(and i love joe louis)were way to small....not for their times,but straight up against a guy the size of lewis...

people tend to be short sighted...with short memories....lennox has dominated the division for over a decade......

i wouldn`t put to much stock in what the media has to say...they`ve never been big lewis proponents...

klitscko`s cut was a plastic surgery cut...not just a stitches cut...if he doesn`t have that repaired with surgery,i agree that it will seriously affect his career in the ring....

larry merchant has an agenda that he goes into the ring with...he doesn`t so much interview guys as much as try to steer them into affirming his own conclusions...

merchant can be abrasive.....but,he`s edward r murrow compared to jim gray on showtime...that guy is a total hack....