Saving the Rich, Losing the Economy - a great read.

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This is a great article that gives a great overview of how we got where we are economically, that places blame where it needs to be placed - not one party, not one group, but appropriately. A great read, I think. - C.

When There's Nothing Left to Lose
Saving the Rich, Losing the Economy

by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS, SEPTEMBER 26, 2011
- from Counterpunch.org

Economic policy in the United States and Europe has failed, and people are suffering.

Economic policy failed for three reasons: (1) policymakers focused on enabling offshoring corporations to move middle class jobs, and the consumer demand, tax base, GDP, and careers associated with the jobs, to foreign countries, such as China and India, where labor is inexpensive; (2) policymakers permitted financial deregulation that unleashed fraud and debt leverage on a scale previously unimaginable; (3) policymakers responded to the resulting financial crisis by imposing austerity on the population and running the printing press in order to bail out banks and prevent any losses to the banks regardless of the cost to national economies and innocent parties.

Jobs offshoring was made possible because the collapse of the Soviet Union resulted in China and India opening their vast excess supplies of labor to Western exploitation. Pressed by Wall Street for higher profits, US corporations relocated their factories abroad. Foreign labor working with Western capital, technology, and business know-how is just as productive as US labor. However, the excess supplies of labor (and lower living standards) mean that Indian and Chinese labor can be hired for less than labor?s contribution to the value of output. The difference flows into profits, resulting in capital gains for shareholders and performance bonuses for executives.

As reported by Manufacturing and Technology News (September 20, 2011) the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages reports that in the last 10 years, the US lost 54,621 factories, and manufacturing employment fell by 5 million employees. Over the decade, the number of larger factories (those employing 1,000 or more employees) declined by 40 percent. US factories employing 500-1,000 workers declined by 44 percent; those employing between 250-500 workers declined by 37 percent, and those employing between 100-250 workers shrunk by 30 percent. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/

These losses are net of new start-ups. Not all the losses are due to offshoring. Some are the result of business failures.

US politicians, such as Buddy Roemer, blame the collapse of US manufacturing on Chinese competition and ?unfair trade practices.? However, it is US corporations that move their factories abroad, thus replacing domestic production with imports. Half of US imports from China consist of the offshored production of US corporations.

The wage differential is substantial. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, as of 2009 average hourly take-home pay for US workers was $23.03. Social insurance expenditures add $7.90 to hourly compensation and benefits paid by employers add $2.60 per hour for a total labor compensation cost of $33.53.

In China, as of 2008 total hourly labor cost was $1.36, and India?s is within a few cents of this amount. Thus, a corporation that moves 1,000 jobs to China saves

saves $32,000 every hour in labor cost. These savings translate into higher stock prices and executive compensation, not in lower prices for consumers who are left unemployed by the labor arbitrage.

Republican economists blame ?high? US wages for the current high rate of unemployment. However, US wages are about the lowest in the developed world. They are far below hourly labor cost in Norway ($53.89), Denmark ($49.56), Belgium ($49.40), Austria ($48.04), and Germany ($46.52). The US might have the world?s largest economy, but its hourly workers rank 14th on the list of the best paid. Americans also have a higher unemployment rate. The ?headline? rate that the media hypes is 9.1 percent, but this rate does not include any discouraged workers or workers forced into part-time jobs because no full-time jobs are available.

The US government has another unemployment rate (U6) that includes workers who have been too discouraged to seek a job for six months or less. This unemployment rate is over 16 percent. Statistician John Williams (Shadowstats.com) estimates the unemployment rate when long-term discouraged workers (more than six months) are included. This rate is over 22 percent.

Most emphasis is on the lost manufacturing jobs. However, the high speed Internet has made it possible to offshore many professional service jobs, such as software engineering, Information Technology, research and design. Jobs that comprised ladders of upward mobility for US college graduates have been moved offshore, thus reducing the value to Americans of many university degrees. Unlike former times, today an increasing number of graduates return home to live with their parents as there are insufficient jobs to support their independent existence.

All the while, the US government allows in each year one million legal immigrants, an unknown number of illegal immigrants, and a large number of foreign workers on H-1B and L-1 work visas. In other words, the policies of the US government maximize the unemployment rate of American citizens.

Republican economists and politicians pretend that this is not the case and that unemployed Americans consist of people too lazy to work who game the welfare system. Republicans pretend that cutting unemployment benefits and social assistance will force ?lazy people who are living off the taxpayers? to go to work.

To deal with the adverse impact on the economy from the loss of jobs and consumer demand from offshoring, Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates in order to create a real estate boom. Lower interest rates pushed up real estate prices. People refinanced their houses and spent the equity. Construction, furniture and appliance sales boomed. But unlike previous expansions based on rising real income, this one was based on an increase in consumer indebtedness.

There is a limit to how much debt can increase in relation to income, and when this limit was reached, the bubble popped.

When consumer debt could rise no further, the large fraudulent component in mortgage-backed derivatives and the unreserved swaps (AIG, for example) threatened financial institutions with insolvency and froze the banking system. Banks no longer trusted one another. Cash was hoarded. Treasury Secretary Paulson, browbeat Congress into massive taxpayer loans to financial institutions that functioned as casinos. The Paulson Bailout (TARP) was large but insignificant compared to the $16.1 trillion (a sum larger than US GDP or national debt) that the Federal Reserve lent to private financial institutions in the US and Europe.

In making these loans, the Federal Reserve violated its own rules. At this point, capitalism ceased to function. The financial institutions were ?too big to fail,? and thus taxpayer subsidies took the place of bankruptcy and reorganization. In a word, the US financial system was socialized as the losses of the American financial institutions were transferred to taxpayers.

European banks were swept up into the financial crisis by their unwitting purchase of the junk financial instruments marketed by Wall Street. The financial junk had been given investment grade rating by the same incompetent agency that recently downgraded US Treasury bonds.

The Europeans had their own bailouts, often with American money (Federal Reserve loans). All the while Europe was brewing an additional crisis of its own. By joining the European Union and (except for the UK) accepting a common European currency, the individual member countries lost the services of their own central banks as creditors.

In the US and UK the two countries? central banks can print money with which to purchase US and UK debt. This is not possible for member countries in the EU.

When financial crisis from excessive debt hit the PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain) their central banks could not print euros in order to buy up their bonds, as the Federal Reserve did with ?quantitative easing.? Only the European Central Bank (ECB) can create euros, and it is prevented by charter and treaty from printing euros in order to bail out sovereign debt.

In Europe, as in the US, the driver of economic policy quickly became saving the private banks from losses on their portfolios. A deal was struck with the socialist government of Greece, which represented the banks and not the Greek people. The ECB would violate its charter and together with the IMF, which would also violate its charter, would lend enough money to the Greek government to avoid default on its sovereign bonds to the private banks that had purchased the bonds. In return for the ECB and IMF loans and in order to raise the money to repay them, the Greek government had to agree to sell to private investors the national lottery, Greece?s ports and municipal water systems, a string of islands that are a national preserve, and in addition to impose a brutal austerity on the Greek people by lowering wages, cutting social benefits and pensions, raising taxes, and laying off or firing government workers.

In other words, the Greek population is to be sacrificed to a small handful of foreign banks in Germany, France and the Netherlands.

The Greek people, unlike ?their? socialist government, did not regard this as a good deal. They have been in the streets ever since.

Jean-Claude Trichet, head of the ECB, said that the austerity imposed on Greece was a first step. If Greece did not deliver on the deal, the next step was for the EU to take over Greece?s political sovereignty, make its budget, decide its taxation, decide its expenditures and from this process squeeze out enough from Greeks to repay the ECB and IMF for lending Greece the money to pay the private banks.

In other words, Europe under the EU and Jean-Claude Trichet is a return to the most extreme form of feudalism in which a handful of rich are pampered at the expense of everyone else.

This is what economic policy in the West has become?a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population.

On September 21 the Federal Reserve announced a modified QE 3. The Federal Reserve announced that the bank would purchase $400 billion of long-term Treasury bonds over the next nine months in an effort to drive long-term US interest rates even further below the rate of inflation, thus maximizing the negative rate of return on the purchase of long-term Treasury bonds. The Federal Reserve officials say that this will lower mortgage rates by a few basis points and renew the housing market.

The officials say that QE 3, unlike its predecessors, will not result in the Federal Reserve printing more dollars in order to monetize US debt. Instead, the central bank will raise money for the bond purchases by selling holdings of short-term debt. Apparently, the Federal Reserve believes it can do this without raising short-term interest rates, because back during the recent debt-ceiling-government-shutdown-crisis, the Federal Reserve promised banks that it would keep the short-term interest rate (essentially zero) constant for two years.

The Fed?s new policy will do far more harm than good. Interest rates are already negative. To make them more so will have no positive effect. People aren?t buying houses because interest rates are too high, but because they are either unemployed or worried about their jobs and do not see a recovering economy.

Already insurance companies can make no money on their investments. Consequently, they are unable to build their reserves against claims. Their only alternative is to raise their premiums. The cost of a homeowner?s policy will go up by more than the cost of a mortgage will decline. The cost of health insurance will go up. The cost of car insurance will rise. The Federal Reserve?s newly announced policy will impose more costs on the economy than it will reduce.

In addition, in America today savings earn nothing. Indeed, they produce an ongoing loss as the interest rate is below the inflation rate. The Federal Reserve has interest rates so low that only professionals who are playing arbitrage with algorithm-programmed computer models can make money. The typical saver and investor can get nothing on bank CDs, money market funds, municipal and government bonds. Only high risk debt, such as Greek and Spanish bonds, pay an interest rate that is higher than inflation.

For four years interest rates, when properly measured, have been negative. Americans are getting by, maintaining living standards, by consuming their capital. Even those with a cushion are eating their seed corn. The path that the US economy is on means that the number of Americans without resources to sustain them will be rising. Considering the extraordinary political incompetence of the Democratic Party, the right wing of the Republican Party, which is committed to eliminating income support programs, could find itself in power. If the right-wing Republicans implement their program, the US will be beset with political and social instability. As Gerald Celente says, ?when people have have nothing left to lose, they lose it.?

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. His latest book is How the Economy Was Lost (CounterPunch / AK Press).
 

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Will read this in it's entirety later. Thanks for posting. I read the first part and this jumped out at me:

policymakers responded to the resulting financial crisis by imposing austerity on the population and running the printing press in order to bail out banks and prevent any losses to the banks regardless of the cost to national economies and innocent parties.

Privatizing profits while making the losses the tax payer's burden. I have been yelling about this since TARP. it is one of the reasons I am so anti-Wall Street. This will just encourage more of the same, bad behavior by allowing the banks to chase risk and yield because they now KNOW that if they screw up, the government will be there to backstop them. So, no risk in chasing higher yields and we all see where that leads.
 

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Don't know who I like least Craig or Krugman Chad.

I got one question I'd like to to ask him

How does he rant for patragraphs on corps and jobs leaving U.S.
--without once bringing up our corp tax rates are 2nd highest in the world--or added regs on every industry.


If thats too tough for him got an easier one per his title saving the rich

Would he save all those rich/productive "undesirables" for us so they can provide more jobs-tax revenue etc--

-if so- we'll promise to divert all our parasites/welfare whores his way so he'll at least continue to have an audience.

on more serious note--if you think we are losing jobs and industry now--how about the Dems calling for higher taxes and more regs- You think that will improve things--would expect Craig would think so.

--almost forgot --since he is on jobs kick--wonder what his thoughts are on Dems blocking Boeing plant and jobs from Alabama because it's not in union state. Sacrificing jobs no prob--if for Da Base-right ;)

The ecomy probs got nothing to do with rich--it stems from expansion of gov and rants on free enterprise. You can can't throw more money down the toilet than you take in.

Solution to unemployment is creating jobs--not extending unemployment benefits for 2 years.
 
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Seriously, Wayne, you can't back off the talking points and conservative agenda for one post, can you? There's plenty of blame to go around in this situation, despite your rabid refusal to admit any responsibility for conservative negatives. This article portrayed many angles of the problem - some liberal/democrat. Your response - it's always the liberals fault - no matter what.

I though this article could promote some healthy discussion - but I guess not. Too much to ask, I suppose, in here.
 

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When There's Nothing Left to Lose
Saving the Rich, Losing the Economy

by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS, SEPTEMBER 26, 2011
- from Counterpunch.org

As reported by Manufacturing and Technology News (September 20, 2011) the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages reports that in the last 10 years, the US lost 54,621 factories, and manufacturing employment fell by 5 million employees. Over the decade, the number of larger factories (those employing 1,000 or more employees) declined by 40 percent. US factories employing 500-1,000 workers declined by 44 percent; those employing between 250-500 workers declined by 37 percent, and those employing between 100-250 workers shrunk by 30 percent. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/

Republican economists blame ?high? US wages for the current high rate of unemployment. However, US wages are about the lowest in the developed world.

Republican economists and politicians pretend that this is not the case and that unemployed Americans consist of people too lazy to work who game the welfare system. Republicans pretend that cutting unemployment benefits and social assistance will force ?lazy people who are living off the taxpayers? to go to work.
Great article, Chad.

I found the number of manufacturing jobs "offshored" very revealing, as well as the fallacious claims of so-called Republican "economists" that we see parroted right here in this forum every day.
 

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Have to agree with you. I can't stand Krugman.

It is interesting. China is facing the the biggest bubble in the history of mankind in it's commercial real estate market. It may last 3 months or 10 years but it will blow. Big time.

Back in the 80's - Japan was hot and they were going to smack around the US economy. Today, Japan is still reeling in the throes of a 20 year recession. Now, China is the new poster child to supplant the US as top dog. Will they?

What happens to all those jobs when China implodes? They are a state -controlled economy and it isn't manageable. Where does those jobs go? Back here?

Just food for thought
 
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Neil Boortz is a neo con conservative asswipe in Atlanta who I listen to on and off . Mostly off.


So he gets on the question of taxing the rich of who he is one. Jamie tells him about how it should happen as alot of the rich hide their money offshore etc.

Boortz goes on his rant and says this....

Well if they decided to tax me any more then I can guarantee you that I will pay less in tax for the year.
We rich ppl have ways to get around things when we have to.

wtf........

this is exactly the problem

They are hiding , shipping, crunching, lieing , cheating and stealing.

Its been going on for years.

Even Herman X .......... 999 plan would at least stop that shit from happening anymore.

Too bad GOP aint putting Herman anywhere close to the nomination.

its Romney or Perry or nothing.

what a joke
 

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Seriously, Wayne, you can't back off the talking points and conservative agenda for one post, can you? There's plenty of blame to go around in this situation, despite your rabid refusal to admit any responsibility for conservative negatives. This article portrayed many angles of the problem - some liberal/democrat. Your response - it's always the liberals fault - no matter what.

I though this article could promote some healthy discussion - but I guess not. Too much to ask, I suppose, in here.

It did--Just not what what you wanted to hear correct?
--What did I put up that wasn't pertinent?--agree it wasn't healthy per his perspective :)

I'll not put any rebuttals or diff perspectives towards your "liberal talking points" if thats what you prefer-

-for future reference
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--almost forgot --since he is on jobs kick--wonder what his thoughts are on Dems blocking Boeing plant and jobs from Alabama because it's not in union state. Sacrificing jobs no prob--if for Da Base-right ;)
It's wasn't the "Dems". It was the NLRB. And the plant's not in Alabama. It's in South Carolina.

Can you at least try to get the "Who/What/When/Where" facts correct?

As for "Why", we know you'll put your neocon spin on that every time.
 

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I know you think your comments are of the "healthy" variety, Wayne - that's my point. You think it's healthy to only rip into the messenger and continue to spout your usual party line rhetoric:

Would he save all those rich/productive "undesirables" for us so they can provide more jobs-tax revenue etc--

-if so- we'll promise to divert all our parasites/welfare whores his way so he'll at least continue to have an audience.

The article had plenty of blame to go around and all you can do is tell how much you hate two liberal writers and say more of the same stuff as always. Then you ridicule me for pointing it out.

You continue to talk about the rich being productive and only mention those on welfare as being whores and parasites. Nice paintbrushing, you are at least consistent - and has little to do with the majority of the article.

What exactly is the conservative jobs plan again? Anything besides cutting taxes for the ultra rich? I'd like to see it, I know you're good at linking to things. Don't forget to show me how many of those ultra rich folks actually employ people other than their maids and yard help while you're at it. Because according to the numbers I've seen very few of the upper 1% employ people. They make a lot of money doing other things, not employing people. But again - any tangible ideas would be interesting to see.
 

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What exactly is the conservative jobs plan again? Anything besides cutting taxes for the ultra rich? I'd like to see it, I know you're good at linking to things. Don't forget to show me how many of those ultra rich folks actually employ people other than their maids and yard help while you're at it. Because according to the numbers I've seen very few of the upper 1% employ people. They make a lot of money doing other things, not employing people. But again - any tangible ideas would be interesting to see.
As the article pointed out, most of the uber-rich are not job creators, they're job killers. They support and promote the offshoring of middle-class jobs in the pursuit of ever-increasing personal wealth. The middle-class are the real job creators in this country but somehow, Republicans have bought into the idea that they owe their livelihood and allegiance to the job-killing CEO's and Wall Street Banksters.
 

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Where is the article does it point out that the uber-rich are job killers? Did i miss this?

Gates is not a job creator?
Steve Allen is not a job creator?
Steve Jobs is not a job creator?
Warren Buffet, Sam Walton, Carlos Slim.....?
 

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Where is the article does it point out that the uber-rich are job killers? Did i miss this?

Gates is not a job creator?
Steve Allen is not a job creator?
Steve Jobs is not a job creator?
Warren Buffet, Sam Walton, Carlos Slim.....?
It was one of the main thrusts of the article.

I said "most" of the uber-rich are job killers, not all.

Those who support and promote policies which create and keep middle-class jobs here in the U.S. are job creators. Those only interested in creating personal wealth at the expense of the American middle-class are job killers. Sadly, the latter outnumber the former by a wide margin.
 
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Chadman...the Republican plan is Cut, Cap and Balance. It was in all the papers.

There is no use in replying to the job creator question because you could cite, as one of many examples, the Walton family who, by their own initiative and using THEIR OWN MONEY, created WalMart.

If you use this example, then these dunderheads will say, "it's not the right kind of jobs."

Speaking of plans and jobs, give The Obama credit as, after three years, he now has two plans to revive the economy...one he presented a couple weeks ago to congress and the other is to send Michelle to Target shopping every other week.
 

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There is no use in replying to the job creator question because you could cite, as one of many examples, the Walton family who, by their own initiative and using THEIR OWN MONEY, created WalMart.

If you use this example, then these dunderheads will say, "it's not the right kind of jobs."
Yup... "The future is bright!!!" in Bob's America.

We'll all work part-time jobs at Walmart for $8 an hour with no benefits, stocking shelves with cheap plastic products made by slave labor in China.

Please tell us more about this Republican Utopia you speak of, Bob. I'm not sure why, but I'm intrigued...

:popcorn2
 

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It's wasn't the "Dems". It was the NLRB. And the plant's not in Alabama. It's in South Carolina.

Can you at least try to get the "Who/What/When/Where" facts correct?

As for "Why", we know you'll put your neocon spin on that every time.

Trench, it wasn't the NLRB, it was Obama.

Have you forgotten that Obama rules all - and he only decides which laws will be obeyed and which laws will not even be policied?

Have you forgotten DOMA and Illegal Immigration? Both of those laws are on the books, but Obama doesn't agree with either of them - so he unilaterally told his folks not to enforce either of them.

Likewise, he told the NLRB to go after Boeing, solely for policitical purposes. Not because it was the right thing to do.

See, that is the problem with O - EVERY decision he makes is for politicial purposes and NONE are because they are the right thing to do/what people want.

Obamacare - still polls negatively - not what people want or the right thing to do.

Bush Tax Cuts - clearly we need more revenue, but O wants to politiize it and make it about class warefare. Wouldn't he have a win/win if he said "we need the money, most of it is in the middle class (do the math), so we will roll back ALL of the Bush tax cuts, and not just attack a small percentage of our population.

I would support rolling back all the tax cuts AS LONG AS the money was earmarked ONLY for deficit reduction.

Can't believe that he won't do it - oh yea, it wouldn't play well to Obama's base.

Again, EVERY decision is made for politiical purposes.

Which is why he is the worst president in history.
 

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Chadman...the Republican plan is Cut, Cap and Balance. It was in all the papers.

There is no use in replying to the job creator question because you could cite, as one of many examples, the Walton family who, by their own initiative and using THEIR OWN MONEY, created WalMart.

If you use this example, then these dunderheads will say, "it's not the right kind of jobs."

Speaking of plans and jobs, give The Obama credit as, after three years, he now has two plans to revive the economy...one he presented a couple weeks ago to congress and the other is to send Michelle to Target shopping every other week.

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Trench, it wasn't the NLRB, it was Obama.

Have you forgotten that Obama rules all - and he only decides which laws will be obeyed and which laws will not even be policied?

Which is why he is the worst president in history.
You live in your own little fantasy world, dontcha Mags?

Do I need to post some links describing the NLRB filing a complaint against Boeing for the relocation of their final-assembly plant to South Carolina as an act of retaliation against union members in Washington state? :shrug:
 

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Chadman...the Republican plan is Cut, Cap and Balance. It was in all the papers.

So, in other words, nothing tangible that creates jobs, just a "trust us" mentality that cuts government spending (and doing away with many jobs in the process), capping spending (which doesn't create anything new), and balance the budget (which doesn't do anything in the private or public sector to create jobs)?

Just cut taxes, eliminate regulations (how did that work with the banking industry and others?), and doing away with social programs - and this will create jobs? If so, how so? We've had the Bush tax cuts in place for years - and even extended them - how did that work for job creation? Under Bush, even?

Just asking - is this the gist of the plan?
 

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So, in other words, nothing tangible that creates jobs, just a "trust us" mentality that cuts government spending (and doing away with many jobs in the process), capping spending (which doesn't create anything new), and balance the budget (which doesn't do anything in the private or public sector to create jobs)?

Just cut taxes, eliminate regulations (how did that work with the banking industry and others?), and doing away with social programs - and this will create jobs? If so, how so? We've had the Bush tax cuts in place for years - and even extended them - how did that work for job creation? Under Bush, even?

Just asking - is this the gist of the plan?

You mean like your LIBERAL HERO did?

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You can't make this shit up.

PITY REALLY
 
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