Scooter Libby In-Trial Thread

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Jury selection today. One lady was dismissed because she said "there's no way they could convince me" the defendant was innocent. ...Aww come on, that's not good enough reason.

Perhaps the supidest person on the planet said the trial would cause them "financial hardship". ...Are you kidding me? Being a jury on a trial like that has the potential of making you $ millions.

This should be a fun one. I can't wait for Cheney to testify.
 

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Jury selection today. One lady was dismissed because she said "there's no way they could convince me" the defendant was innocent. ...Aww come on, that's not good enough reason.

Perhaps the supidest person on the planet said the trial would cause them "financial hardship". ...Are you kidding me? Being a jury on a trial like that has the potential of making you $ millions.

This should be a fun one. I can't wait for Cheney to testify.

Smurph Cheney will do what he usually does and lie right thru his teeth but this bastard sounds convincing for some reason. I think its the steady tone to his voice. There is so much garabge this administration has pulled but to me this is one is really dispicable. I almost forgot about this one.
 

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He's the hand picked fall guy. Anyone that would lie three times. And smile. If found guilty. I have a hunch on one of Bush's last days will get his pardon. :SIB
 

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Armitage may get called to testify. Supposedly he's a card the defense will play to try to show what they did wasn't politically motivated.
 

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Good point Wayne, all the rich people live in Chevy Chase and Alexandria. Maybe they should tried a motion for change of venue so the Scootster could get a "fair" trial. Probably won't have any Muffy's or Mackenzies on the jury for Scooter. Drat. I wanted a blue car.

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Well, Scooter should have broken the law in Kentucky then. That's his fault.
 

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Regardless of jury he gets-- if he's quilty he deserves to be punished.
--and would be ironic if found quity we they Bill and other members of his cabinet found quilty of same -designate punishment--now wouldn't that be interesting--$10,000 fine and stay in office?
 

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Will you please STFU about Clinton for like ....a week, maybe? I mean Fuk's sake - is that all you do 24/7 is think about Clinton?

6 years since he left Washington. Lots have happened since then - 9/11, Katrina, Iraq, Shuttle crash, Red Sox, Record national debt and deficit. Clinton is a blip on the radar - yet you use him to justify or downplay any transgressions of the modern day.

We get it. WE GET IT.
 

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Will you please STFU about Clinton for like ....a week, maybe? I mean Fuk's sake - is that all you do 24/7 is think about Clinton?

6 years since he left Washington. Lots have happened since then - 9/11, Katrina, Iraq, Shuttle crash, Red Sox, Record national debt and deficit. Clinton is a blip on the radar - yet you use him to justify or downplay any transgressions of the modern day.

We get it. WE GET IT.

Eassssy, smurph. Easy.

I haven't witnessed a blowup like that since Slater stole Kelly from Zack.
 

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What's a Kelly and Zack?

Christ, Kosar - you sound like Gardenweasel. Are you just here to lighten the mood?
 

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Absolutely smurph --the minute liberals you calling for someone elses head--theat you give your own free passes on.

You don't see me trying to give libby free pass--
Thats where we differ--if you think it gets old hearing about bill--i might remind you it also gets old listening to same people day in a day out who think rules apply to one party and not the other--especially from those from Mass whining about ethics :)
 

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Absolutely smurph --the minute liberals you calling for someone elses head--theat you give your own free passes on.

You don't see me trying to give libby free pass--
Thats where we differ--if you think it gets old hearing about bill--i might remind you it also gets old listening to same people day in a day out who think rules apply to one party and not the other--especially from those from Mass whining about ethics :)

Please explain what Massachusetts has to do with the trial of this kiddee porn author, and lawyer for one Mr. Rich, who that Ba$tard Clinton pardoned. A grown man called Scotter. That in itself should give get him 10 - 20.
 

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i was hoping this trail was delayed a few years so Cheney's whipping boy wouldn't get a pardon but i guess its not gonna be the case. It will be nice to see him get the pardon tho so the country can heal again like we did when the other dispicable republican, who was an actual president, got his lucky pardon.
 

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As I've indicated many times before, they are all scumbags and Scooter, if found guilty, will get a pardon, or a light sentence (don't know if the judge is a FOG) (Friend of George). None of our conversations really matter until we get real campaign finance reform and these criminal pukes can be stopped beholden to their respective contributors, right or left. We are in the last throes of this democracy.

Eddie "Barry McGuire" Haskell
 

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None of our conversations really matter until we get real campaign finance reform and these criminal pukes can be stopped beholden to their respective contributors, right or left. We are in the last throes of this democracy.

Eddie "Barry McGuire" Haskell
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I read Hillory has 55 million in the coffers already.

Damn thats alot of fund raising dinners. No wonder she has them kanklets.

That will pay for alot of dirty campaign tricks and TV ads.

Got to love Democracy.

Scott Obama Atlanta
 

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Will you please STFU about Clinton for like ....a week, maybe? I mean Fuk's sake - is that all you do 24/7 is think about Clinton?

6 years since he left Washington. Lots have happened since then - 9/11, Katrina, Iraq, Shuttle crash, Red Sox, Record national debt and deficit. Clinton is a blip on the radar - yet you use him to justify or downplay any transgressions of the modern day.

We get it. WE GET IT.

amen.
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/01/26/cia.leak/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two of President Bush's top advisers have been subpoenaed as possible witnesses in the trial of former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a legal source familiar with the case told CNN on Friday.

It remains unclear whether either of the aides -- Karl Rove and Dan Bartlett -- will actually be called to the stand.

Libby is charged with lying to the FBI and a grand jury investigating who leaked a CIA employee's identity to reporters in 2003. (Read full story)

Rove, Bush's longtime political confidant, serves as deputy chief of staff at the White House; Bartlett is a counselor to the president and the former White House communications director.

Rove and Bartlett are on a list of possible defense witnesses that includes Vice President Dick Cheney, his current chief of staff, David Addington, and a number of journalists and current and former White House officials.

Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff, is fighting charges of perjury and obstruction of justice with a defense strategy that includes portraying him as someone thrown into a "meat grinder" to protect Rove.

Prosecutors are trying to portray Libby as someone who used lies and deception in his high-ranking position at the White House to try to discredit an open critic of the Bush prewar justification to invade Iraq.

Inner workings of White House exposed
The first week in the trial brought a sometimes harsh light to the inner workings of the White House and other federal agencies.

On Thursday, a former top press aide to Cheney, Cathie Martin, who now is an aide to Bush, testified she was excluded from high-level talks to decide how to respond to the media during a controversy over Bush's 2003 State of the Union address.

In the speech, Bush claimed Iraq was trying to buy uranium from the African nation of Niger. Martin said Libby attended the meeting.

The uranium claim was challenged by a former ambassador, Joe Wilson, who in the months before the Iraq war, had made a fact-finding trip to Niger at the request of the CIA, where his wife worked on matters regarding weapons of mass destruction, according to court testimony. (Read full story)

Witnesses have testified Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, apparently organized the trip, and interest in the results had been expressed by the Office of the Vice President, the State Department and the Department of Defense.

But at least initially, none of those offices apparently had much knowledge of Wilson's trip nor who arranged it, according to the testimony thus far.

Prosecution witnesses from the CIA and the State Department testified that they or their staff members tracked down details of the mission at Libby's request, and that the push to do so came at the time the former ambassador had questioned the Bush argument for going to war in Iraq.

The criminal case began with an investigation of how Valerie Wilson became widely known among journalists as being an operative of the CIA. It would be illegal to disclose the covert or classified status of such an employee.

No one has been charged with leaking her name, employment status or other classified material.

Libby is the only person to face any charges in connection with the case. He resigned his position at the White House in 2005 on the day he was indicted.

Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has said he continues to explore for wrongdoing, including whether Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in retaliation for her husband's public criticism of the president.

Who told Libby is key to prosecution
Central to the Libby trial is whether he learned of Valerie Wilson's employment from reporters or from inside government. (Watch how the timeline is a key to the trial )

Libby has said that he first got the information from NBC reporter Tim Russert. His lawyers blame bad memory for any discrepancies in what he told investigators and a grand jury, and say he may have been distracted by urgent national security matters.

Martin, Cheney's former spokeswoman, testified Thursday that she had told Libby that Joseph Wilson is "married to a CIA agent" days before the date Libby claims he learned that information from Russert.

She also described feeling blamed for how the White House handled a different query about the controversial Iraq-uranium assertion in the State of the Union address. The query, by television reporter Andrea Mitchell, had been handled by Libby.

Martin testified, "I was aggravated that Scooter was calling the reporters and I wasn't" during White House efforts to handle the story.

Martin is one of four witnesses for the prosecution who have testified in the first three days of the trial, which is expected to last more than a month. The judge and jury will not hear the case on Fridays.

After the defense and prosecution conclude with Martin on Monday, the next witness is expected to be former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.

He appeared at the courthouse Thursday after defense attorney Ted Wells complained he needed more time to examine Martin's original handwritten notes she made during the uranium controversy.

There was some talk of instead taking the next prosecution witness and delaying Martin's testimony, and soon after, reporters spotted Fleischer's arrival.

Prosecutor Fitzgerald acknowledged that Wells had been given the Martin notes only a few hours before Martin was to take the stand, but he disputed whether the earlier copies were of poor quality.

"That's a bit of spin," Fitzgerald said of the complaint from Wells, and suggested he didn't believe the defense team's "notion of sitting on it a year with illegible copies."

Judge Reggie Walton, his voice rising, chided Fitzgerald and loudly said, "If he's lying, I'll punish him for it," referring to the Wells complaint.

Martin was called to the stand after Fitzgerald said only a handful of the notes would be introduced as evidence. Fleischer, who had been waiting with counsel in a holding room, departed. His appearance is now set for Monday.

CNN's Paul Courson and John King contributed to this report.
 

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"As I've indicated many times before, they are all scumbags and Scooter, if found guilty, will get a pardon, or a light sentence"
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agree with you here Edward--apparently unwritten rule between both parties not hammmer the other.

--in fact I've seen "high official" charged and found quilty of identicle offense and not only get off scott free--but remain in office ;)

Thanks for post Smurph--I wish they would have elaborated on "why" in one particular statement--

No one has been charged with leaking her name, employment status or other classified material.

Would anyone like to volunteer :)

and back to Libby--I don't have any sympathy for him--the supposedly avid student of history didn't do his homework before he testified or could have averted all of this--and he didn't have to go very far back in history--

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

I don't remember - 71
I don't know - 62
I'm not sure - 17
I have no idea - 10
I don't believe so - 9
I don't recall - 8
I don't think so - 8
I don't have any specific recollection - 6
I have no recollection - 4
Not to my knowledge - 4
I just don't remember - 4
I don't believe - 4
I have no specific recollection - 3
I might have - 3
I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2
I don't have any memory of that - 2
I just can't say - 2
I have no direct knowledge of that - 2
I don't have any idea - 2
Not that I recall - 2
I don't believe I did - 2
I can't remember - 2
I can't say - 2
I do not remember doing so - 2
Not that I remember - 2
I'm not aware - 1
I honestly don't know - 1
I don't believe that I did - 1
I'm fairly sure - 1
I have no other recollection - 1
I'm not positive - 1
I certainly don't think so - 1
I don't really remember - 1
I would have no way of remembering that - 1
That's what I believe happened - 1
To my knowledge, no - 1
To the best of my knowledge - 1
To the best of my memory - 1
I honestly don't recall - 1
I honestly don't remember - 1
That's all I know - 1
I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1
I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1
As far as I know - 1
I don't believe I ever did that - 1
That's all I know about that - 1
I'm just not sure - 1
Nothing that I remember - 1
I simply don't know - 1
I would have no idea - 1
I don't know anything about that - 1
I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1
I just don't know - 1
I really don't know - 1
I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1
 
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