Scott-Atlanta here's Raymond's Results

[uglyplayz]

Based on $100 per unit Raymond's Clients are down $11925 in the past 8 days of wagering. He does not keep a record of his plays at his website. If I were in business to sell plays and my plays performed as poorly as this I wouldn't keep a record at my site either. This is probably why he did not answer your question as to how his service is doing. His plays have been an absolute joke. Listed below are his plays for Sunday (fade them) and how he has done in the past 8 days.

NFL SUNDAY
5* edit out play
5* edit out play
4* edit out play

Saturday
10* OUTLAWS PLAYS
STANFORD +8 Loser -1100
ARIZONA +8 Loser -1100
Giants -120 Loser -1200
oakland 5* -140 Loser -700
cards 4* -150 Winner +400
angels 4* +110 Winner +440
boise st -4 5* Winner +500
iowa -8 5* Loser -550
Oregon St. -4 4* Loser -440
SAN JOSE ST -6 5* Winner +500
WESTERN MICH-11 5* Winner +500
5* WEST VIRGINA-3 Loser -550
5*ALABAMA-3.5 Loser -550
5* KANSAS STATE-3.5 Loser -550
10* NEVADA-1.5 OUTLAWS Loser -1100

Total for the day -5500


Friday
Utah St +17 5* Loser -550
OAKLAND A'S 5* Winner +500
Colorado St. -5.5 5* Loser -550
YANKEES OVER 8.5 5* Winner +500
Total For the day -100

Thursday
5*: Clemson+15 Loser -550
4* : Illinois+3.5 Loser -440
CARDS-DBACKS OVER 7 RUNS-120 5* BEST BET Loser -600
CARDS+168 5* Winner +840
GIANTS+141 5* Loser -500
Total for the day -1250

Wednesday
YANKEES-1.5 RUNS +115 4* Loser -400
Yanks OVER 8.5 -130 4* Winner +400
OAKLAND-1.5 RUNS -125 5* Winner +500
4* GIANTS +130 Winner +520
3* OVER7.5 SF-ALT Winner +300
3* OVER 8.5 OAK-MINN Winner +300
Total for the day +1620

Tuesday
DBACK UNDER 7 RUNS-130 5* Loser -650
Diamondbacks to win series over StL 10* Loser -1900
YANKEES-140 LP 5* Winner +500
DBACK -220 LP 10* Loser -2200
TWINS+190 LP 5* Winner +945
Total for the day -3305

Monday
5*: Denver, Under the total Loser -550
Total for the day -550

Sunday
CINN+7 5* BIG Loser -550
5* Saints Loser -550
5 *Bills/Bears over the total Winner +500
3* Chargers Winner +300
5*GIANTS-3 Loser -550
5* TENNESSEE+7 Loser -550
4* SEATTLE-3 Winner +400
3* SAINTS-LOINS OVER 46 Winner +300
5* TEASER SAINTS-1.5 - TENN +14 Loser -550
Total for the day -1250


Saturday
10* MISS ST+13 OUTLAW S VERY BIG Loser -1100
10* OREGON ST +3 AND ML OUTLAWS VERY BIG Loser -1100
10*WHITESOX-120 OUTLAWS VERY BIG Loser -1200

LOUISIANA TEC+13 4* STRONG Loser -440
SOUTH CAR-10 STRONG 4* Loser -440
Boise St -19 GAME OF THE WEEK 10* Winner +1000
STANFORD+1.5 5* VERY STRONG Loser -550
SOUTHERN MISS-28 4* IF RUTGERS BEAT ARMY WHAT DO YOU THINK
S MISS IS GOING TO DO! EASY WINNER HERE Loser -440
5* airforce+9 outlaws Winner +500
4* airforce ml +295 Winner +1180
CINN-4.5 10* COLLEGE FOOTBALL Winner +1000
Total for the day -1590

 

[ddubs]

You guys really should drop this, or take it to the General forum, it is getting old.

Ray is a good guy, regarless of whether he has a pay service or not.

Go spend your time capping your own games. Good luck in the NFL today.

 

[TJBELL]

I Agree with DDUBS! he is nice enough to post his plays. if you don't like them, THEN DON'T FUNKEN BET THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thefinger

 

[GRIFFIN]

this is going to get nasty real quick!!!!

cant we alljust get along?:shrug:

 

[MadJack]

i'm moving this to general. i'm also going to edit out raymond's sunday plays that you posted because that isn't right.

i was accused of deleting posts in another thread but the only posts i edit or delete are touts posting their links.

i don't know how much of the above is true and i don't really care but the handicapping forums will be used for handicapping.

thanks

 

[PUHD]

Can we please lock this thing real quick like?

 

[no all]

I agree this guy is a loser (uglyplayz)
oh and just a quick look at the results u posted and utah state covered:shrug: but whatever:shrug:

 

[yyz]

8 days, does not a season make.

I don't know, but I am guessing you are a client, if you have all those plays. That is too bad, if that is the case. Maybe you will get it back.

 

[THE KOD]

Re: Scott-Atlanta here's Raymond's Results

[B[/B]

hey ugly you ugly bastid. I just woke up its like 1 PM i got to make some plays damn. I did not ask for this information and I certainly dont even care about what you think you pathetic piece of dog dooky. Spend your time at the beuty parlor ...:thefinger :thefinger :thefinger


:moon: :moon: :moon:


Sorry for starting all this RAYMOND .



Scott-Atlanta

 

[dr. freeze]

i'm moving this to general. i'm also going to edit out raymond's sunday plays that you posted because that isn't right.

i was accused of deleting posts in another thread but the only posts i edit or delete are touts posting their links.

i don't know how much of the above is true and i don't really care but the handicapping forums will be used for handicapping.

thanks

question for you then.....why is it okay to post some people's pay service plays but not others?

 

[Senor Capper]

We all know that.....

We all know that.....

You can't win 'em all & everyone rides the slide now & then.

 

[THE WIZZARD]

I AGREE WITH DR. FREEZE, I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE.... A PAID PICK IS A PAID PICK......DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S IT IS...SOMEONE PAID FOR IT SOMEWHERE!

 

[ferdville]

You can't judge anybody on the basis of 8 days or 8 weeks. 8 months would be a better time span. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose - that is why it is gambling. No need to slam a guy that isn't claiming that he is hitting 85% like others tend to do. If you don't like the plays, don't play them. If you bought the service for the past week, I feel sorry for you if those are the accurate figures. But, after all, this is a risky business.

 

[djv]

First off anyone who wants to pay there money to purchase someone plays that's there busness. Now if they payed for them. Then say what the hell here im sharing these with all my friends at Mad Jacks. Well if they want to do that. I have seen no laws here say they cant. Happens all the time. Thats what this site is about sharing. Now if it's not then we need to understand that. As for what some one may call there picks. Be it lock 10 star 5 star 1000 star. Inlaw, outlaw. Folks you need to follow your money mangemnet. You have to think about such names. There just that. After over 35 years of doing this. I have seen more picks called more names then you can think of. I never found a game worth more then 2 maybe 3 units. Use your heads and think it through before you do something to hurt your self. And always remember if you buy a service. Subtract what it cost from your account. Remember if its 200/300 bucks a month and you play less then 55 a game. Well do the math.
Gl what ever you do. But always play with in yourself. Don't let names fool you. Ok shoot me all that think this advise sucks. I been shot at before.

 

[TIME TO MAKE $$$]

DJV,

Well said.....you basically covered what I was about to say.

:thumb:

 

[MadJack]

freeze and wiz,

if plays are posted or info is posted from another site, i could give a rats ass, but if i am asked to remove the plays or info, i will.

if i see nolan's articles posted on another site without permission, i'm going to ask for the article to be removed. it's called common courtesy.

 

[ferdville]

Although I imagine that most of us would consider it at a minimum unethical, there is no way that service picks will ever be a secret. The solution, if one is called for, would be for the service to cut off the person that is posting the pay picks. That is what I would do if I ran a service. On the other hand, if I ran a successful service, and people were noticing that my selections were profitable, it might lead to more business. The notion that if one person paid for it, it should be available to anybody is specious, at best. If you pay for cable, can I just run a line from your house over to mine? After all, you paid for the cable. There are many similar circumstances. But it is up to the service to take care of this. If I was paying for something that someone was putting out on the internet for free, I would be the first to complain to the service. I am also in total agreement about the money management issue. It is one of the most important aspects of gambling. I also agree that anyone paying for a service must consider the cost as an expense and treat it as such on your ledger.

 

[Sportsaholic]

If people want to pay for a service so be it, its no different than getting stock info from a broker, once you have it its up to you to pull the trigger. The way I feel is if I paid for the info and want to share that with other, there nothing wrong with that, its just come with the territory (other service plays are on here every week-I'm sure none of those services want their picks posted but it cant be controlled or shouldn't).
It was only a matter of time before this happened, personally I could care less one way or another, just hope that it is consistant going forward. :shrug:

 

[ssiproop]

If you pay for cable, can I just run a line from your house over to mine? After all, you paid for the cable.

I'll do it, but you pay for the 150 miles of cable.

 

[thepoolguy]

If I paid to see a movie and the movie sucked , well then I am going to tell people that the movie sucked. What they do after that is their own business. If Ray lost that much in 8 days, well then this guy can tell people that as well.
Just remember that if I walk out on a movie after 5 minutes and tell everyone that the movie sucked, well ????????