I placed a large wager on UNC at 3-1 today and I am sure glad I lasted another day.........Why does this UNC team have to make me sweat so much.......DAMN
Scott.........were you sweating....
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YES I was sweating bullets tonight. GEESH! Gotta give all the credit to Nova for hanging in against UNC. Nova played GREAT and UNC played VERY BAD in 1h yet UNC was only down 4 at half. That tells me UNC is for real. When you can take a teams best punch, and still hang with them despite playing bad ball, you are for real. I really like UNC's chances of winning it all now. But I also got Illinois too!
As I posted in Gman2's thread, I think this game was the best thing possible for UNC. This prepares them for winning it all. If UNC blew out Nova, not sure how much good it would have done UNC although it wouldn't have made me sweat bullets. After knowing UNC came out on top, I am happy Nova gave UNC all they can handle. I think I will be laying a futures bet on Nova to win it all next year! Good looking team! But NOVA was unreal and UNC didn't play nearly as good as they can. Lotta UNC players had off nights.
UNC now has an easier road to winning it all. Duke is OUT! :clap: I was not only worried about Duke because they are great team, but they also are a rival. UK, MSU, and Wiscy all are outmatched by UNC. UNC had their bad game and I look for them to play perfect ball rest of the way. Funny thing is I was told UNC looked really good in practice before tonights game. Maybe they left their game's on practice court.
Little upset that I lost my $70 i won on AZ on UNC 2h tonight. Blew 10pt lead then Nova had to make that 3pt shot down 4. I SHOULD HAVE WON $157 profit for last 2 days. :cursin:
As I posted in Gman2's thread, I think this game was the best thing possible for UNC. This prepares them for winning it all. If UNC blew out Nova, not sure how much good it would have done UNC although it wouldn't have made me sweat bullets. After knowing UNC came out on top, I am happy Nova gave UNC all they can handle. I think I will be laying a futures bet on Nova to win it all next year! Good looking team! But NOVA was unreal and UNC didn't play nearly as good as they can. Lotta UNC players had off nights.
UNC now has an easier road to winning it all. Duke is OUT! :clap: I was not only worried about Duke because they are great team, but they also are a rival. UK, MSU, and Wiscy all are outmatched by UNC. UNC had their bad game and I look for them to play perfect ball rest of the way. Funny thing is I was told UNC looked really good in practice before tonights game. Maybe they left their game's on practice court.
Little upset that I lost my $70 i won on AZ on UNC 2h tonight. Blew 10pt lead then Nova had to make that 3pt shot down 4. I SHOULD HAVE WON $157 profit for last 2 days. :cursin:
mav,
i will be very surprised if NC wins it all ... I loved them in Dean days and still root for them but not like charlie scott, phil ford, perkins, mj, montross days ... they just have this soft side to them, and I am very skeptical they have cajones tol cut down nets
i will be very surprised if NC wins it all ... I loved them in Dean days and still root for them but not like charlie scott, phil ford, perkins, mj, montross days ... they just have this soft side to them, and I am very skeptical they have cajones tol cut down nets
pt1gard said:
They took a teams best punch and came out on top despite playing poorly themselves. That doesn't show you anything? Everyone knew Nova was talented team even without sumpter. In fact, Nova might not have competed tonight if they had Sumpter. Sumpter would have taken shots away from Foye who happen to have a career night. Everyone knows how erie :scared teams play when a star player is out. Prob. hurt UNC since they obviously didn't play well tonight.
UNC players having off night.
Felton 4-12
J. Williams 1-5
McCants 3-9
J. Manuel 1-4
UNC still won the game! I think this game strengthens UNC title run, not hurt them. If UNC played well and barely beat Nova, then I "might" be little worried.
hehe, dodgy, I recall that chub, I think I coulda guarded him in my prime, whenever that was ... didnt vanessa's hubby line up beside him or was that JR Reid
nice logic on the Carolina board - in essence they got screwed by the refs the whole game and that is the only reason game was close so the "travel call" was justice
scott,
you can convince yourself but not me---ive seen a few more tournies than you ... Trust me, we better hope Zona doesnt take out Ill (thank gawd they get HC advantage) ... NC players havent ever won big, now they are in uncharted waters and if not for ref's horrible call NC would still be playing OT as a 10 pt. fave ...
you can convince yourself but not me---ive seen a few more tournies than you ... Trust me, we better hope Zona doesnt take out Ill (thank gawd they get HC advantage) ... NC players havent ever won big, now they are in uncharted waters and if not for ref's horrible call NC would still be playing OT as a 10 pt. fave ...
Sun Tzu said:
Assuming you are reffering to IC since that's the main one, taking those morons' input as general consensus of Carolina fans isn't the most accurate reflection.
pt1gard said:
For North Carolina not to win the NCAA NC, they must lose to Wisconsin, or Michigan St./UK, or in the finals against Illinois, AZ,UL, or WVU.
Wiscy beating UNC? (I see vegas has UNC -10 vs Wiscy) MSU? UK? What have those 3 shown you in the tourney to be so confident in UNC being upset? In the finals, they may face a red hot UL, or an Illinois team who can almost match them talent for talent.
Right now I can understand if anyone wants to argue UL playing the best ball but they have tough road to winning it all. AZ might be playing 2nd best ball, Illinois 3rd, and maybe UNC 4th. UNC prob. has the easiest road to winning it all. UNC has the most talent in the tourney. Yet you say you don't like UNC's chances. Who chances do you like? Or does every team have 12.5% chance? Its not always about who is playing the best ball, but also who has the easier road to winning it all. Illinois, AZ, and UL is brutal compared to UNC, Wiscy, UK, and MSU. Thats just my opinion and maybe you disagree.
Remember, there is no team who will be fresher than UNC as the tourney progresses.
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i think your overconfidence is whats hurting NC right now ... they were 10 pt faves tonght and are again sunday ...
they played 2 pukes and one good team (albeit 10 pt dog) w/o a huge cog and shoulda gone OT ... wisky on paper shouldnt match up, but like i told you earlier, stop NC's break and teams will stay in games ...
... they were 10 pt faves tonght and are again sunday ...they played 2 pukes and one good team (albeit 10 pt dog) w/o a huge cog and shoulda gone OT ... wisky on paper shouldnt match up, but like i told you earlier, stop NC's break and teams will stay in games ...
pt1gard said:i think your overconfidence is whats hurting NC right now
they played 2 pukes and one good team (albeit 10 pt dog) w/o a huge cog and shoulda gone OT ... wisky on paper shouldnt match up, but like i told you earlier, stop NC's break and teams will stay in games ...
Well Wisconsin is perfect team to stop UNC's break. But can they match up against UNC? Will multiple UNC players play poorly again? If anybody is due for a big game it is senior J. Williams. He has been stinking it up for 7 straight games now. Will Wiscy have a player have career game? Or 2 players like Nova had? UK/MSU I don't think will slow down UNC break. In the finals, Illinois will run with UNC as will UL and AZ.
Wiscy is "probably" the only team that will try and succeed in not not running with UNC. Agree? Therefore, if UNC beats Wiscy, then you should like UNC's chances of winning it all. The reason you said you don't like UNC's chances was you could beat them if you stop/slow their break.
I don't see UL, AZ, Illinois, UK, or MSU doing that. I think all will get caught up running with UNC and most if not all are outmatched talent wise against UNC.
*UL did good job not running with UW but UW had foul issues with players. If UNC has foul issues, they have better depth and talent than UW. Therefore I think UL will get caught up running with UNC because they think they can run with them.
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scott,
I keep meaning to ask you this, when you said you didnt include freshmen in your capping angles would that include, people such as: Carmelo Anthony, Marvin Williams, Jordan or Ewiing, or 1986 Final Four MVP Pervis Ellison? And how would you have capped the Fab Five with all freshmen that made it to the finals? Or even Reggie Bush in fball?
Just curious I could name about 50 more if you wanted.
take care
gregg
I keep meaning to ask you this, when you said you didnt include freshmen in your capping angles would that include, people such as: Carmelo Anthony, Marvin Williams, Jordan or Ewiing, or 1986 Final Four MVP Pervis Ellison? And how would you have capped the Fab Five with all freshmen that made it to the finals? Or even Reggie Bush in fball?
Just curious
I could name about 50 more if you wanted.take care
gregg
pt1gard said:scott,
I keep meaning to ask you this, when you said you didnt include freshmen in your capping angles would that include, people such as: Carmelo Anthony, Marvin Williams, Jordan or Ewiing, or 1986 Final Four MVP Pervis Ellison? And how would you have capped the Fab Five with all freshmen that made it to the finals? Or even Reggie Bush in fball?
Just curious
take care
gregg
I said I don't rely on freshman. If I am betting on a team, I am not gonna hope a freshman steps up or plays well for me to win my bet. OSU needed Curry to have good/big game for OSU to beat AZ. I wouldn't want my $$$ relying on freshman. Now the players you mentioned who were freshman are phenoms. I wouldn't say Curry is a phenom but he is def. a talent. UNC doesn't rely on Marvin Williams for them to win. He is type of player that puts UNC over the top but if he has bad game, UNC still has good chance to beat anyone. If Curry has bad game, OSU has small chance to win IMO. I would say the way Marvin is playing right now he might be a a top 5 1st round pick type talent.
All in all, I won't bet "BIG" on a team in hoops if I am relying heavily on a freshman. Then again, there are many examples to prove me wrong on this argument. Freshman can and will play big in big games but I just view it as big question mark and somethign I don't like. I base this all on "BIG" bets. When I make "BIG" bets I expect everything to happen the way I cap it. No mistakes. I personally can't say I expect a freshman to play solid in big game. Unless he is a proven phenom and physically has an advantage over everyone else. (size/speed/etc)
Football is more of a team game and as for Bush he was used as a decoy against OU in NC game. He was not factored at all in the USC gameplan against OU. USC coaching staff knew OU main focus was to stop Bush. In fact, the stupid OU players gave it away prior to the game by saying in newspapers that Bush was the main and only weapon for USC. Can't really use a player in hoops as a decoy.
Bush was soph. last year but as freshman Bush was not used or relied on a whole lot compared to his soph. year. USC had Mike Williams and Colbert at WR. But Bush showed he was a phenom in practices and games his frosh year AND had a huge advantage over anybody he played against.
actually saw one place just yest. say he'd be first pick in draft--Marvin W.--so I guess you wouldnt wanna rely/consider on that
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pt1gard said:actually saw one place just yest. say he'd be first pick in draft--Marvin W.--so I guess you wouldnt wanna rely/consider on that
He still is the 6th man on his team but gets starters minutes. Freaking J. Williams is playing like $hit the last 7 games. He is killing UNC and he is a freaking SENIOR with tons of talent. :cursin:
M. Williams has a huge "physical" advantage over opponents plus he has the outstanding SEAN MAY playing right next to him. AND Williams comes in later in the game when other team is more tired.
