Scott4USC, are you one of Worm's "doormates"?

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Scott4USC said:
You want to make a "friendly" little side wager? USC hat vs Texas hat? :mj07:

95% probability USC lands 3 of the nations top 10 RB's. Moody is in (#10), and Johnson (#2) and Gable (#6) are silent verbals. They always can change their mind. USC also is recruiting 3 OTHER top 10 RB's who ALSO might commit. IMO Goodson is the one. That might mean Carroll gets 4 of the top 10 RB's in the country. I am betting and sticking with 3. I am game for a hat wager! :)
Are you? Everyone can use another new hat! :)
According to you, it is "highly doubtful" for me to win the bet! :)
The Judge said:
You're on.

The bet is that USC will or will not sign three of the nation's top ten running backs according to Scout.com's final rankings.
Scott4USC said:
The bet is official. BUt I want to make one thing clear. If USC signs 3 or "more" of the nations top 10 RB's I win the bet. If USC signs 2 or less of the nations top 10 RB's, then YOU WIN the bet. We will go by SCOUT.COM top 10 RB's listed on the day of LOI.

Hopefully you are an honorable poster because you will lose this friendly wager! :)
Rest assured Scooter, I am ?an honorable poster? but the next post has me wondering about you:
Scott4USC said:
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There is a problem with our hat bet. I just noticed from the link scout took GABLE off their RB list. (that is BULL$HIT) Gable committed to USC last week and SCOUT had him the #6 rated RB when we made our wager. After he publicly commits (i knew he was a silent) scout took him off the RB list and made him a safety. That is not right. You can move him down the list like they did Moody but not take him OFF the list. When we made the bet, I even mentioned GABLE at RB.

I also unfortunately just noticed Moody dropped from #10 to #12. That is valid and went in your favor. Sucks for me but those are the breaks we agreed too. Otherwise my bet be a lock which I originally thought. :mj07:

You have a decision to make. Moody dropping to #12 is valid because we agreed to go by scouts final top 10 not current top 10. But I am not going to allow scout to take away Gable being the #6 rated RB completely off their RB list.

Let me know if you want to keep the wager ON but Gable MUST be considered a top 10 RB between you and me.


Do you accept these changes to our wager or do you want to completely cancel the bet? I'll let you decide either way and I will honor either request. I need you to publicly make a statement.
Scott4USC said:
If I was going to welch on the bet, I would bring this up AFTER signing day to cover my a$$ and get out of it. Why would I bring it up before signing day?

I have a good argument. YOU CAN'T TAKE OFF A RB FROM THE RB LIST and change his position AFTER he commits to USC. That is bogus. Moving a RB up and down is fine. For example Moody went in Judge's favor which we agreed. But you can't take off a RB from the list. That is bull$hit.

I think JUDGE would agree. I will allow Judge to keep the BET or CANCEL the bet. It is his decision. I will honor his decision either way but GABLE must be rated top 10 RB in the country which he is.
You will ALLOW me to cancel the bet? In that case ALLOW me to invite you to read my mind you freaking half-wit.

I have highlighted in red the parts of your posts that I find particularly ridiculous. I have a question for you Scotty, you are aware that this is a sports gambling forum aren?t you? If so, are you familiar with the generally excepted rules governing sports wagering? If so, have you lost your freaking mind?

I would also like to know where in the hell you get off thinking that the bet should be cancelled or even adjusted because Scout.com changed their opinion about a player? You agreed to allow Scout?s final rankings to serve as how we would score this bet. Now that they have changed the manner in which they rank a particular player, you want out of the bet? I do not know about the sportsbook that you deal with but in my experience, once a wager is placed, you can not call up and have it cancelled simply because the conditions that you expected did not transpire. Let?s consider some examples of similar circumstances which I think bear a direct correlation to your shameless request.

Player injuries, suspensions, coaching changes, weather conditions and yes, even line movement. If any of these things occurred that were related to a game on which you had already placed a wager, would you even consider calling up your book and saying, ?You know, I had really counted on having Joe Tightend being available to play in this game but since he has been declared academically ineligible, I will either allow you cancel my bet or . . . . .?

Give me a f*cking break. That scenario is only slightly more absurd than the one that you present. Scout changed the way that they choose to rank Gable. Tough shit. It is what it is Scooter, and after the months of listening to your endless drivel about how my alma mater?s team was so much inferior to USC?s and how Mighty Pete Carroll and his Boys from Troy were invincible, I am not about to let you weasel out of this bet and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself for even asking. I know that I have certainly lost more respect for you and at this rate, there is not much more to lose.

Believe me when I say that the last thing that I need is another Longhorn Championship cap as I have purchased at least one of every version that I have been able to find. It?s not about the hat Scott. Your display of incredibly poor sportsmanship since my Longhorns dethroned your boys from Troy has been despicable and this is just another example of that pathetic behavior.
 

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Exactly what I told him Judge, in your original wager thread.

I couldnt agree more with your post.

He thinks a different set of rules apply to USC & himself.

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Yeah, Scott has no leg to stand on in this bet unless those quotes are altered (which I obviously assume they aren't).
 

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Amazing how cheaply some people will sell out their own reputation.

A freaking hat. My God.

Make you what he would do for $100.
 

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I seriously think Scott4USC is really Matt Leinart, read in one of his posts about USC being the better team even though they lost. :mj07: :mj07:
 

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Geez, a lot of welching going on lately on this forum. Have to take your side on this one Judge. The bet made was obvious and needs to be followed through with. Perhaps Scott is hedging his wager.
 

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I would have to agree with the majority here.... The parameters of the bet were clearly stated that you would "go by SCOUT.COM top 10 RB's listed on the day of LOI." You said it, Scooter. :scared

Where's that "integrity" we've heard so much about now?!?!?! :mj07: :mj07:


You lost...just like your invincible Boys of Troy.... Time to pay the piper.... I have to say that I love this quote: "I know that I have certainly lost more respect for you and at this rate, there is not much more to lose." :s4:
 

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countinguy said:
Damn a guy that bets $20k on halftimes can't pay up a measly hat bet, that is pitiful :nooo: :nooo: :nooo:

Exactly, this guy is just another fraud like the worm. Betting 20k and all that horseshit, now this BULLLLLSSSSSHHHIIITTTT. :jerkit: :em38: :mj10:
 

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i think scott is more worried about being *WRONG* about something rather than the hat. that guy can't stand being wrong about anything. hopefully, whatever career he persues, he won't have to deal with people, because his social skills suck, period!

scott, you can't back out of the bet so pay up when you lose and .....

:stfu:
 

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are we now gonna be subject to a four page response on how he is right? it seems like some people dont have a clue what honor is. i'm not saying scott is like that, i dont know what his response to the bet will be, hopefully he will do what is right, considering how much money he bets, this hat is a drop in the bucket.
i'm thinkin pretty soon someone will start a poll on this epidemic that is starting to plague us. lol
i just wish i could win a freakin bet so i can give the welcher grief. boohoo.
 

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MJ....should have a disclaimer that reads....anyone placing a wager with another MJer is subject to bansihment of the site, if loser welches on a bet.......granted its not that big of a consequence but for egomaniacs like Scott, its what should be in order.....ip address and all
 

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I will post MY ARGUMENT below AND IMO IT IS A VALID ARUGMENT. BTW USC just got the verbal from the #2 RB in the country! :mj14: Judge, you cannot compare this wager to a wager a sportsbook would take. This was a friendly wager that IMO I been wronged. I will not be screwed.

MadJack said:
i think scott is more worried about being *WRONG* about something rather than the hat. that guy can't stand being wrong about anything.

Exactly!


MadJack said:
hopefully, whatever career he persues, he won't have to deal with people, because his social skills suck, period!

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Judging someones social skills from a message board. :banghead:
 

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According to the below, YOU Scott, will be a welcher if you do not abide by the agreement. Geez.....Jack hit the nail exactly on the head....Scott has no social skills and will get eaten up in the real world, when he gets there in 3-5 years. OMG, Worm has struck again....where is my Ouiga Board!!!!! Beantown!!!!



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Originally Posted by The Judge
You're on.

the nation'The bet is that USC will or will not sign three of s top ten running backs according to Scout.com's final rankings.
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Originally Posted by Scott4USC
The bet is official. BUt I want to make one thing clear. If USC signs 3 or "more" of the nations top 10 RB's I win the bet. If USC signs 2 or less of the nations top 10 RB's, then YOU WIN the bet. We will go by SCOUT.COM top 10 RB's listed on the day of LOI.

Hopefully you are an honorable poster because you will lose this friendly wager!
 

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First here is the bet..................

The Judge said:
You're on.

The bet is that USC will or will not sign three of the nation's top ten running backs according to Scout.com's final rankings.

Scott4USC said:
The bet is official. BUt I want to make one thing clear. If USC signs 3 or "more" of the nations top 10 RB's I win the bet. If USC signs 2 or less of the nations top 10 RB's, then YOU WIN the bet. We will go by SCOUT.COM top 10 RB's listed on the day of LOI.

Hopefully you are an honorable poster because you will lose this friendly wager! :)

MOODY was at #10 and got bumped down to #12. According to the betting rules, we are going by the final rankings of scout.com. So I get screwed but I accept it if moody stays at #12. As of right now, Moody does not qualify as top 10 RB. HOWEVER, Gable at the time we placed this wager, was ranked #6 RB in the nation. Then after he verbals, scout switches his position. THAT IS NOT FAIR AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. I made the wager because of Gable, Moody, Johnson being 3 legit verbals with outside chances at 2 other top 10 backs. (spiller, goodson & williams)

HERE IS PROOF I COUNTED ON GABLE AS A RB! These are MY QUOTES in the same thread of the wager.

Scott4USC said:
The 3 RB's that I "think" are in the bag are Moody (duh), Gable and Johnson. Plus a possibility of a 4th RB recruit. What is amazing is USC had about 8 of the nations top 10 RB's show high interest. I bet USC lands at least 3 of them.

Scott4USC said:
95% probability USC lands 3 of the nations top 10 RB's. Moody is in (#10), and Johnson (#2) and Gable (#6) are silent verbals. They always can change their mind. USC also is recruiting 3 OTHER top 10 RB's who ALSO might commit. IMO Goodson is the one. That might mean Carroll gets 4 of the top 10 RB's in the country. I am betting and sticking with 3. I am game for a hat wager! :)
Are you? Everyone can use another new hat! :)
According to you, it is "highly doubtful" for me to win the bet! :)

YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE I MENTIONED AND COUNTED ON GABLE BEING ONE OF THE TOP 3 RB's TAKEN. GABLE WAS LISTED AS THE #6 RB in the country at scout.com. If Scout made Gable the #11 RB then I lose. I will NOT LOSE because Scout makes Gable a SAFETY AFTER Gable verbals to USC.

USC is still recruiting 2 other top 10 RB's in the country with Spiller being reported as a verbal. Johnson, Gable, Spiller and Moody are 4 RB's rated in the top 12. Moody at #12 does not qualify under this bet but he could jump back in the top 10.

I don't understand how Judge or anybody else cannot see my case. IT IS BULL$HIT! I will not lose this bet because scout switched a players position which I just proved that I counted on. When the bet was made, Gable was #6 ranked RB in the country.

I am officially calling this bet off because it is obvious everyone is on Judges side and if Gable, Johnson and Spiller(anybody else) comes to USC, I will not get my winnings. Judge would have no reason to pay up with everyones support on his side including MJ himself. Obviously Judge is PO'ed but he fails to see my argument which IMO is valid.
 
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