September MMA News

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

im predictable? You have said the same thing 305 times now. I said before 152 that the card was sic. Anyone who knows talent knew that. You didn't have to see the card. So tell me why the Toronto fans booed two talented guys fighting their guts out? Were u booing too? Be honest. Would u rather see two bums just throwing hay-makers? Is that what the Canadian fans want? We don't want that here in the states and we don't want the pile of shit Dana kept feeding us and to look at those numbers on Pay per View buys it looks like a lot of people didn't want to watch that bullshit either.

You act like it's just easy to throw a card together. You have to consider MANY MANY things...

#1 - is the fighter medically cleared
#2 - does the matchup make sense(when scheduling ahead of time) - I realize sometimes cards get saved by matchups that dont make sense.
#3- is fighter A willing to fight fighter B
#4- is fighter A and B ready to fight in that short of time? A lot of fighters aren't even in camp. While their proposed opponent is.

There are so many variables.

A lot of times, you have fighters who are already tied up in matchups/contracts for fights down the road. It's not like you can just call up a guy who fought 4 weeks ago and say "hey, you're fighting so and so in 2 weeks, even though he's already scheduled for a fight in 4 months."

While I won't disagree that PPVs are often top heavy because of draws(it's a business, duh, they're going to do that). However, even with that being said, Joe Silva does not have an easy job.

At the end of the day, if you're not happy with the card, then don't fucking buy it, or don't watch it.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

I remember talking about that. When I try to think about fighters that could exploit that I can't think of any in the LHW division. NOW, the one guy that could but I actually thought had no chance might actually have a chance. The Spider! He's deadly enough standing that Jones would probably want to take him down but with his long legs Anderson could do some serious damage. If Jones fought like he usually does then I would have to say Anderson might be able to sub him.

I don't really think Anderson would win but IMO he has the best shot of anyone that isn't a HW.

Jon Jones takes too many risks and Anderson Silva would pick that apart and take advantage of it. IMO, Jones only gets away with it because of his significant reach advantage. Look how Machida did against him, but in the end, the size difference was just too much. As for the HWs, he's simply too small. I think any top 10 HW would destroy him simply because he would no longer have that reach + power advantage. And plus, like Dana always says, modern day HWs are maxing out in the 240-265 range and they're usually cutting down. That's a range difference of 60-80lbs of power come fight day we're talking about.

The fight I really would love to see is against Gustafsson. While I think Bones is definitely the better fighter. I would just love to see how Jones handles and fights against the "proverbial" "pick on someone your own size."

 

[THE_THONG]

sponge prolly watch bukkake porn and complain not enough money shots by end of video

 

[layinwood]

Jon Jones takes too many risks and Anderson Silva would pick that apart and take advantage of it. IMO, Jones only gets away with it because of his significant reach advantage. Look how Machida did against him, but in the end, the size difference was just too much. As for the HWs, he's simply too small. I think any top 10 HW would destroy him simply because he would no longer have that reach + power advantage. And plus, like Dana always says, modern day HWs are maxing out in the 240-265 range and they're usually cutting down. That's a range difference of 60-80lbs of power come fight day we're talking about.

The fight I really would love to see is against Gustafsson. While I think Bones is definitely the better fighter. I would just love to see how Jones handles and fights against the "proverbial" "pick on someone your own size."

Jones reach 84.5
JDS reach 79

Still has the reach advantage

Jones weight not cut 230
JDS for fight with Mir 239

9lbs isn't that big of a deal. Plus you can add to it that if Jones moved up he could finally add muscle. At his age and as thin as he is his body is "primed" for adding muscle.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

You really don't think JDS walked around at 239 and cut no weight for the fight with Mir do you? lol Plus, you have to take into effect he probably cut more weight then usual so his speed was better and more ideal to Mir. I think it's safe to assume that JDS probably is at least 250 come fight night.

 

[layinwood]

You really don't think JDS walked around at 239 and cut no weight for the fight with Mir do you? lol Plus, you have to take into effect he probably cut more weight then usual so his speed was better and more ideal to Mir. I think it's safe to assume that JDS probably is at least 250 come fight night.

LOL, are you being serious. He weighed in for that fight at 239, why the hell would he cut. Cutting sucks ass and is hard on you. So he weighed in at 239 and then within 24hours he added 11lbs. That makes no sense at all. There would be no need for him to cut down to 239 and then go up to 250. Why not just weigh in at 250 and not have to do any of the cutting.

Now if you're saying he was at a constant lower weight than normal to keep his speed then maybe I'll agree with you but even then he's not come in at that much heavier.

The only HWs that EVER cut weight for the weigh in are the ones that are over 265 and need to get under that to make weight. Otherwise they just weigh in at what they really are.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

LOL, are you being serious. He weighed in for that fight at 239, why the hell would he cut. Cutting sucks ass and is hard on you. So he weighed in at 239 and then within 24hours he added 11lbs. That makes no sense at all. There would be no need for him to cut down to 239 and then go up to 250. Why not just weigh in at 250 and not have to do any of the cutting.

Now if you're saying he was at a constant lower weight than normal to keep his speed then maybe I'll agree with you but even then he's not come in at that much heavier.

The only HWs that EVER cut weight for the weigh in are the ones that are over 265 and need to get under that to make weight. Otherwise they just weigh in at what they really are.

:facepalm: are you being serious? You're clueless when it comes to MMA fitness aren't you? No? Just clueless in general...got it. Why even work on his cardio then? I can guarantee you that he doesn't walk around at 239. Cutting 11 pounds isn't that bad moron. It's not like he's 239 and cutting all the way to make 205. You can go sit in a sauna right now and cut 10 pounds of water weight just to do it.

 

[The Sponge]

:facepalm: are you being serious? You're clueless when it comes to MMA fitness aren't you? No? Just clueless in general...got it. Why even work on his cardio then? I can guarantee you that he doesn't walk around at 239. Cutting 11 pounds isn't that bad moron. It's not like he's 239 and cutting all the way to make 205. You can go sit in a sauna right now and cut 10 pounds of water weight just to do it.

:facepalm:

 

[The Sponge]

You act like it's just easy to throw a card together. You have to consider MANY MANY things...

#1 - is the fighter medically cleared
#2 - does the matchup make sense(when scheduling ahead of time) - I realize sometimes cards get saved by matchups that dont make sense.
#3- is fighter A willing to fight fighter B
#4- is fighter A and B ready to fight in that short of time? A lot of fighters aren't even in camp. While their proposed opponent is.

There are so many variables.

A lot of times, you have fighters who are already tied up in matchups/contracts for fights down the road. It's not like you can just call up a guy who fought 4 weeks ago and say "hey, you're fighting so and so in 2 weeks, even though he's already scheduled for a fight in 4 months."

While I won't disagree that PPVs are often top heavy because of draws(it's a business, duh, they're going to do that). However, even with that being said, Joe Silva does not have an easy job.

At the end of the day, if you're not happy with the card, then don't fucking buy it, or don't watch it.

absolute nonsense. The ufc has a huge roster with guys complaining all the time about not having a fight. Guida fought a while ago and now decided to go to 145. Gustafsson is becoming a big thing and he doesn't have a fight until recently because Shogun turned down 10 other guys. Weidman was complaining since his big win until they finally gave him a fight. That is just a couple of guys i took off the top of my head. These guys are all waiting around and there are a lot of them that are big names. If you want to buy up every company than give us good fights. This is the exact thing people complained of when the UFC bought Pride as well as Strikeforce. A monopoly doing what ever they want. Joe Silva has one job for Christ sakes and he isn't even that good at it. I will say this they have picked it up a bit. As for complaining? If it wasn't for guys like me we would have to rely on guys like you and company man Kick which would mean that it would be one shit card after another. I will point out all i want, if the UFC is trying to pass off a pile of shit disguised as a legitimate card.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

absolute nonsense. The ufc has a huge roster with guys complaining all the time about not having a fight. Guida fought a while ago and now decided to go to 145. Gustafsson is becoming a big thing and he doesn't have a fight until recently because Shogun turned down 10 other guys. Weidman was complaining since his big win until they finally gave him a fight. That is just a couple of guys i took off the top of my head. These guys are all waiting around and there are a lot of them that are big names. If you want to buy up every company than give us good fights. This is the exact thing people complained of when the UFC bought Pride as well as Strikeforce. A monopoly doing what ever they want. Joe Silva has one job for Christ sakes and he isn't even that good at it. I will say this they have picked it up a bit. As for complaining? If it wasn't for guys like me we would have to rely on guys like you and company man Kick which would mean that it would be one shit card after another. I will point out all i want, if the UFC is trying to pass off a pile of shit disguised as a legitimate card.

You keep naming guys since you think it's so easy. Make a card, put it together. Lets see what you got. Anyone can name 3 guys(who ironically fight in 3 different weight classes) and summarize that there is a ton of fighters available. NONSENSE. Who are they gonna fight, that it makes sense for them to fight? You really think those 3 guys you named are going to be willing to fight guys not in the top 10? Because pretty much anyone in the top 10 in their weight class is tied up in a fight, hurt, or waiting on an opponent to become free to fight.

Leave it to you to come in here and spew ignorance. Leave it to you to get dickserv and I to actually agree on something.

It's not as fucking easy as saying, "hey Weidman, you're fighting Constantinos Philippou" - Do you really think Weidman takes that fight?

I tell you what. You name the guys who you think are constantly available(that you're excited to see, that wouldn't make a shit card). You put a card together, tell me how it goes. Oh, and after you finally put the card together, you have to call each fighter and convince them it makes sense for their career.

-I'm all for fighting whoever they put in front of me. But that's me. My defense of Joe Silva/UFC is the argument that I can see how hard it is. I do think they soften some cards because of the headliner, but a lot of the time, it's just not that easy to throw a big card together. Id say about 90% of mainstay UFC fighters don't think that same way unless. The ones who do are the ones who are trying to make a name for themselves and know that their first or next fight, might be their only or last in the UFC.

 

[layinwood]

:facepalm: are you being serious? You're clueless when it comes to MMA fitness aren't you? No? Just clueless in general...got it. Why even work on his cardio then? I can guarantee you that he doesn't walk around at 239. Cutting 11 pounds isn't that bad moron. It's not like he's 239 and cutting all the way to make 205. You can go sit in a sauna right now and cut 10 pounds of water weight just to do it.

Why would he cut? I know you'll say something else but just answer that part.

 

[The Sponge]

You keep naming guys since you think it's so easy. Make a card, put it together. Lets see what you got. Anyone can name 3 guys(who ironically fight in 3 different weight classes) and summarize that there is a ton of fighters available. NONSENSE. Who are they gonna fight, that it makes sense for them to fight? You really think those 3 guys you named are going to be willing to fight guys not in the top 10? Because pretty much anyone in the top 10 in their weight class is tied up in a fight, hurt, or waiting on an opponent to become free to fight.

Leave it to you to come in here and spew ignorance. Leave it to you to get dickserv and I to actually agree on something.

It's not as fucking easy as saying, "hey Weidman, you're fighting Constantinos Philippou" - Do you really think Weidman takes that fight?

I tell you what. You name the guys who you think are constantly available(that you're excited to see, that wouldn't make a shit card). You put a card together, tell me how it goes. Oh, and after you finally put the card together, you have to call each fighter and convince them it makes sense for their career.

-I'm all for fighting whoever they put in front of me. But that's me. My defense of Joe Silva/UFC is the argument that I can see how hard it is. I do think they soften some cards because of the headliner, but a lot of the time, it's just not that easy to throw a big card together. Id say about 90% of mainstay UFC fighters don't think that same way unless. The ones who do are the ones who are trying to make a name for themselves and know that their first or next fight, might be their only or last in the UFC.

i will get back to you with a card as soon as you pay me for it and i can drop everything else in my life. Nobody i repeat nobody wanted to see Koch an Aldo fight. Why was it even suggested?

 

[The Sponge]

Why would he cut? I know you'll say something else but just answer that part.

There is no reason for him to cut Lay. Staying in shape and cutting weight are two different things. Just another retarded BUcks statement while acting like he is the god of MMA.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

i will get back to you with a card as soon as you pay me for it and i can drop everything else in my life. Nobody i repeat nobody wanted to see Koch an Aldo fight. Why was it even suggested?

I did, others did. If you were educated you'd know that using logical falicies when arguing a point loses all credibility.

You're just not happy unless you're bitching. And I figured you'd have nothing in return for me.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Why would he cut? I know you'll say something else but just answer that part.

So you're admittingly asking a question you already know my answer too. Thanks for wasting my time, but since you have, I'll bite...

The guy simply is in tip top shape at 239. If you think he started his fitness and worked on his cardio, quickness, etc...starting/staying at 239, then Im probably wasting future time as we speak.

 

[The Sponge]

I did, others did. If you were educated you'd know that using logical falicies when arguing a point loses all credibility.

You're just not happy unless you're bitching. And I figured you'd have nothing in return for me.

here douchebag i did this in three minutes. Who is Werdum fighting? He called out Comier but nothing. What happen to Del Rosario. 1 fight and that is it? Rothwell, Congo, Hunt. Who are these guys opponents? Vera fought the same time as Shogun. Does he have an opponent yet? How about Mousasi in Strikeforce? Is his career stagnant now. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

Since u thought Sokojou and KIngsbury were the next big things no wonder u will watch anyone fight. U know as much about talent as Kickserv does.

 

[layinwood]

So you're admittingly asking a question you already know my answer too. Thanks for wasting my time, but since you have, I'll bite...

The guy simply is in tip top shape at 239. If you think he started his fitness and worked on his cardio, quickness, etc...starting/staying at 239, then Im probably wasting future time as we speak.

Ok, so here's the problem. I'm talking about cutting weight. You're talking about getting in shape. They are two totally different things. No CUTS weight outside of the ones that are above 265.

What Jones does is cutting weight. Two days before the fight he's weighing 220 and having to shed 15 in water weight.

I apologize for not knowing you didn't understand what cutting in MMA was. I thought you were an MMA know it all.

Now if you want to talk about cutting for other things like body building then lets talk becuase then you're talking more time.

 

[kickserv]

Matt Mitrione turned down Strikeforce fight with Daniel Cormier

http://mmajunkie.com/news/30874/ufc...own-strikeforce-fight-with-daniel-cormier.mma

:facepalm:

 

[The Sponge]

Matt Mitrione turned down Strikeforce fight with Daniel Cormier

http://mmajunkie.com/news/30874/ufc...own-strikeforce-fight-with-daniel-cormier.mma

:facepalm:

He rather fight a smaller Rampage or Tito. :mj07:

 

[The Sponge]

Matt Mitrione turned down Strikeforce fight with Daniel Cormier

http://mmajunkie.com/news/30874/ufc...own-strikeforce-fight-with-daniel-cormier.mma

:facepalm:

No here is my problem with this. Werdum called Cormier out. that is a fight i would enjoy yet they give Cormier Mittrone who will get taken down with ease and no threat from the bottom. So is this why Dana and Joe Silva did this? To protect Cormier from any kind of danger? I can see that reasoning to protect what u might think is the next big thing but to an outsider im glad i don't have to watch Mitrone get taken down and hammered for two or three rounds.