Well some one took over 5 trillion away from us in the surplus we had 2000. Turn it in to a huge deficit. That was our money they pissed away. All under the name of conservative. You got to be kidding. Talk about spenders.
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EAE said:
Ohhhhh, you're a LOT more 'worthwhile' than those bums. Modest too.
I can see this character is gonna be fun. I think this is the neo-con version of 'tossing salds'.
EAE said:
That's strange, I don't think my man ctownguy has ever really presented a 'view'.
He's the league leader in smilies though.
Kosar
EAE wrote...."Well, at least I can drive over these ingrates on my way home....." and then claimed it was symbolism.
What do you think it's symbolic of? Putting a white sheet over your head and burning someone's house? Or tying them to the back of his pick-up and dragging them around for a little Republican 'round-up'? Or maybe it's symbolic of putting them in a pit and gassing them much like crazy adolph was being symbolic.
Your thoughts would be appreciated as you understand both Kleon and Republican having grown up among them.
EAE wrote...."Well, at least I can drive over these ingrates on my way home....." and then claimed it was symbolism.
What do you think it's symbolic of? Putting a white sheet over your head and burning someone's house? Or tying them to the back of his pick-up and dragging them around for a little Republican 'round-up'? Or maybe it's symbolic of putting them in a pit and gassing them much like crazy adolph was being symbolic.
Your thoughts would be appreciated as you understand both Kleon and Republican having grown up among them.
auspice said:
Auspice,
He was just joking around, ya know. He mentioned that he would be concerned about getting sued if he actually *did* mow down the homeless. He's got a point there. This country has gotten so lawsuit happy that there is a real risk these days of getting sued if you intentionally run people over with your car. Even if it's just the worthless homeless people. You know, the ones who get all the breaks.
All this suing just isn't the Christian way.
It's a good thing you were raised by squirrels. You can understand the way of the right......the hording and biting and all.
BTW....has anybody suggested we create a Mendosa line for ring wingers here. Something to gauge their ring wingedness. Of course we can't use the term Mendosa line as that's a baseball expression. How about the JohnnyDemarco line. It could be the gold standard in measurements. Just an idea.
BTW....has anybody suggested we create a Mendosa line for ring wingers here. Something to gauge their ring wingedness. Of course we can't use the term Mendosa line as that's a baseball expression. How about the JohnnyDemarco line. It could be the gold standard in measurements. Just an idea.
That's not a bad idea, Auspice. We'll have to get with Dogs That Bark to see how those types of ratings are quantified. He's always quoting some goofy thing called a 'liberal rating'.
Kosar, with all modesty, I am. I work, support a familiy, pay taxes, from which these freeway dwellers benefit, go to church on Sunday and try to treat people honestly and fairly. Look, I'm sure some of these people are mentally ill and all but my tax dollars go to support shelters and welfare. Look what I'm giving and look what there taking. What is wrong with saying that those that aren't mentally ill should be working. Based on your past posts, you are quite a bleeding heart liberal. I mean hand outs just don't work. If someone told me I could make money be just sitting on my ass and the government will take care of me instead of working for a living I would sit on my ass and get the handout. But I have some self respect. I am going to work and feel good about who I am not sit around with a 7-11 styrofoam coffee cup looking for quarters. Sorry but I like who I am. Ctownguy has presented his viewpoints in the past. He's probably more conservative than I am but so what. He believes in what he says and further believes people are responsible for there own actions. I've seen him say that hundreds of times. Nosigar, I read some of Haskells posts and found him to be a real left wing psycho. He posted stuff below the belt and probably should have been banned. Auspice it is symbollic of society.
Some people have more brains than others. Some people have more drive than others. As much as you may not want to hear this but it is a dog eat dog world and as in nature, the strong should survive. Thats not to say injured war veterans should be put out to pasture. Rather, they gave their limbs for this country and should be taken care of. The ones I don't care about are the ones who choose to live under bridges when they could work at Burger King, make some money and take responsibility for their actions.
No, no, it appears you and guys like you would rather get touchy feely by giving these people who choose to live under bridges my tax dollars. Those tax dollars should be used to build a strong military, reinforce family values and build highways. Yeah, highways that go over those bridges that Clintons proteges live under.
I really am not trying to cause a problem here as I'm looking forward to football coming up and hope to provide some insights and get some of the good cappers thoughts but, I'm really having trouble watching you guys support candidates who give money away to bums and in reality encourage the problems facing this nation.
Sorry, just my take.
EAE
Some people have more brains than others. Some people have more drive than others. As much as you may not want to hear this but it is a dog eat dog world and as in nature, the strong should survive. Thats not to say injured war veterans should be put out to pasture. Rather, they gave their limbs for this country and should be taken care of. The ones I don't care about are the ones who choose to live under bridges when they could work at Burger King, make some money and take responsibility for their actions.
No, no, it appears you and guys like you would rather get touchy feely by giving these people who choose to live under bridges my tax dollars. Those tax dollars should be used to build a strong military, reinforce family values and build highways. Yeah, highways that go over those bridges that Clintons proteges live under.
I really am not trying to cause a problem here as I'm looking forward to football coming up and hope to provide some insights and get some of the good cappers thoughts but, I'm really having trouble watching you guys support candidates who give money away to bums and in reality encourage the problems facing this nation.
Sorry, just my take.
EAE
kosar said:
Yeah, I like that...no care of actually killing or running over a homeless person, the only care is if he would get sued or not.
And, news to me, apparently most everyone on welfare and the homeless are living in the lap of luxury. All that money the governement gives them, obviously an astronomical amount, and all that money the homeless make sitting on the corner with their styrofoam cup. Yep, why bother working when you can have it so 'good'.
I agree, there are certainly plenty of those who take advantage of the welfare system. But to lump everyone into that category is a total falsehood. And to make it like all the taxes every hardworking citizen makes goes towards feeding and keeping the welfare system alive is also a joke. I'm sure all the taxes we pay go towards excellent causes.
Hoops, first of all, you have made me a lot of money in basketball and I want to thank you for that. I dont want to piss you off but, I'm not going to give any of my basketball winnings to these bums on the street so they can buy cars, houses and other luxuries. Some people are legitimatly on welfare: the mentally handicapped, insane and kids abandoned by their parents. But I'll bet you a dime to a dollar that the vast majority of welfare receipients are fat, laze, minorities who do not want to work and use there food stamps to buy Pringles, 3 muskateers and coke. Yeah both the stuff made in Atlanta as well as the stuff you put up your nose. Hoops, they don't get an "axed"tronomical amount but they do get my money from the federal f****** government then they want my quarters on the street in addition to that. Man, all they have to do is pull themselves up by there bootstraps, get the job at Burger King, stay at a shelter until they get themselves on there feet, and start going to church. Why can't you see this. This country is heading in the right direction with Bush/Cheney at the helm. You want to take us back to double digit inflation, interest rates and welfare for everone like it was under Carter. No thanks. Again, I disagree with your politics but I like your picks.
EAE
EAE
Hoops, look at the link below. You are wrong. Bush is not cutting veterans benefits he's expanding them for BOTH the vets and their spouses. I don't know where you get your news from but this is an official white house release.
EAE
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/images/20031216-5_d121603-1-515h.html
EAE
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/images/20031216-5_d121603-1-515h.html
EAE said:
I guess that's the difference between you and me. I don't consider myself more 'worthwhile' as a human being than somebody less fortunate. That's kind of a strange take on things from somebody who pretends to be religious.
There's nothing wrong with saying that at all. I agree with you. But your hatred and disdain for these people 'living under bridges' is palpable and a little scary. I believe they estimate 60-70% of the homeless are mentally ill. FWIW
Wrong. I'm not 'quite the bleeding heart'. However, I *am* succeptable to a human condition known as empathy, which is obviously foreign to you. I do not wish that more of my tax dollars go to freeloaders, but I do accept that there will be people that abuse the system. I do not want hundreds of billions poured blindly into the welfare system, nor do I want billions of dollars blindly poured into an abortion that we are calling a war.
You make it sound as if people on welfare and government aid are living the high life. You also say that you would live that life if you could. I strongly suspect that you would not.
Why do these indigent people bother you so much?
Exactly. And in any sort of 'dog eat dog' world there will be winners, as you see it, and losers. There will be rich and poor. The strong(or lucky) *do* survive, in that their quality of life, by any normal measure is so much better than the so-called losers. Neither you or I want to subsidize apathy. But what you can't quite get your hands around is that as a result of all the dogs that were eaten, a large % of their plights are legitimate, even by your standards. I get the sense that you'd rather send these dogs to the pound to be euthanized rather than help them a little.
Wow. Are you sure?
Wrong. But if you're so worried about the 'wrong' people getting ahold of our tax dollars, please explain this thing in Iraq. If you would rather our tax dollars were used to blow up hospitals and then rebuild them for Iraqi civilians than used here for Americans, then I have a bit of a problem with that. Since you don't like your tax dollars wasted and all, i'm sure you're up in arms about this occupation.
What a surprise, another Clinton remark. You're catching on quick. And what are you talking about? Without spending a dollar on social programs, Clinton taught a whole generation of kids about sex ed, cum stains, DNA, definitions of sexual terms, etc. Saved a shitload in teachers salaries.
