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All of the whining has become tough to block out. The left are an odd group. The American people voted for pro tariff, anti-regulation, pro energy, strong border policy.

This platform is a vehicle to lower the debt from January 2025 to November 2028.

We will know a lot more about how successful this has been, in a couple of years. In the meantime, people crying about 10% market corrections and doom and gloom for the good old USA, need to relax and know that every time any company, nation, or large organization makes huge ideological shifts, there will be growing pains.

I like it to painting a room. Do you want to paint a room, you now have to remove all of the furniture, tape it up, throw tarp over your floor, drop some lighting and registers. Then you slap some primer on it. At this point the room looks like fucking ass compared to what it looked like before you started the job. Then you add two coats of paint, remove the tape, remove the tarp put back the furniture and life is good again

As I’ve said, I do not know if this plan will work. I know that I voted for it and so did more people than voted for the other plan which was to maintain the status quo that ballooned our debt from 10 trillion to 36.1 trillion and 16 years.

You guys need to relax if this plan doesn’t work, then we’ll vote someone else in office and they’ll give it their best shot.
 

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You weren't too fucking relaxed while the economy was actually doing fine, but now we should take this debacle with a grain of salt?

Your guy is painting us into a corner......
 

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You weren't too fucking relaxed while the economy was actually doing fine, but now we should take this debacle with a grain of salt?

Your guy is painting us into a corner......

Maybe try yoga?

Again, can’t possibly be worse than the last 16 years. Yes it’s a new approach, so I at least understand your obvious angst, but I assure you, the United States of America are not being painted into a corner. If this president doesn’t work out, we will vote a different president into office in four years will have a different plan of attack. As long as it’s not what we were doing AND is meant to lower that debt to gdp ration, then I’ll be very open to it
 

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I will say this, I am less bullish on the national debt to be less than 36.1 trillion in November ‘28 than I was a month ago.

We shall see.
 
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please share what exactly has been so terrible with your life the last 16 years that was due to democratic presidential policies.

must be pretty bad, if things "can't possibly be worse."
In the last 16 years, the national debt has nearly quadrupled from 10,000,000,000,000 to 36,100,000,000,000.

At that time, our debt to GDP ratio was about 64%. It’s 123% today. Our annual debt service is 1 trillion——It’s actually slightly less than 1 trillion, but well over 900 billion.

We are not, and have not been for quite some time, on an economically sustainable path. This is why more people voted for this president and for a Republican Senate and Republican house

The American people are tired of politicians pissing in our face telling us it’s raining. It’s time to change our path. I’m extremely hopeful that this works out
 

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Actually, that's exactly what you voted for. Again.
you’re dead wrong here. I was told that Elon Musk would head a department looking for ways to reduce spending. I was told that there would be major reduction of the bureaucracy. I was told the border would be secure and illegals would be deported at a higher rate than they had been. I was told that tariffs would be implemented to improve trade and help manufacturing. Clearly when I voted for a pro tariff platform I did so understanding it could present short term disruption.

I am getting very specifically the platform that I voted for. It’s actually the very first time I can remember a president—this includes Trump his first go around when I didn’t vote for him— actually do everything He said he would do.

I’ll be glad to call DJT 2.0 an absolute failure if that’s what turns out. But hopefully I’ll be singing his praises in just about 3 1/2 years.
 
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you’re dead wrong here. I was told that Elon Musk would head a department looking for ways to reduce spending. I was told that there would be major reduction of the bureaucracy. I was told the border would be secure and illegals would be deported at a higher rate than they had been. I was told that tariffs would be implemented to improve trade and help manufacturing. Clearly when I voted for a pro tariff platform I did so understanding it could present short term disruption.

I am getting very specifically the platform that I voted for. It’s actually the very first time I can remember a president—this includes Trump his first go around when I didn’t vote for him— actually do everything He said he would do.

I’ll be glad to call DJT 2.0 an absolute failure if that’s what turns out. But hopefully I’ll be singing his praises in just about 3 1/2 years.
Is there a two drink minimum for this comedy?
 
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Is there a two drink minimum for this comedy?
How can you possibly deny that this was the platform that he ran on?

Listen, I get it. You don’t like it. But, he ran on a very specific platform.

Doge
Bureaucracy reduction
Border
Deportation
2 Genders
Tariffs
Peace deals in Middle East and Ukraine.

You are denying that the above isn’t the exact platform that he’s executing now? Again, it might not work, but he’s doing what he said he would do.
 
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You're right.

I guess if someone tells you that they're going to crash your car and you hand them the keys anyway, you smile and say, "Winning!"


:smilies9
 
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You're right.

I guess if someone tells you that they're going to crash your car and you hand them the keys anyway, you smile and say, "Winning!"


:smilies9

to be honest, I don’t know if we are winning. When drastically changing a path like the unsustainable one we have been on since at least 2008, there are bound to be bumps along the way. I know that you haven’t felt any bumps on a personal level, like I know that I haven’t felt any bumps on a personal level, but there are bound to be issues when policy is changed dramatically.

Personally, I welcome stock market corrections . I’m still buying just like the rest a typical 51-year-old in this country.. If I’m still around I will retire on July 24, 2031. Until then market dips just help me average down.

If you’re worried that the United States of America is on the verge of failure, then think again. But it truly would’ve been a concern if we had maintained the status quo.

Again, that’s why people voted for this change in policy.

I hope you feel better big boy.
 

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How can you possibly deny that this was the platform that he ran on?

Listen, I get it. You don’t like it. But, he ran on a very specific platform.

Doge
Bureaucracy reduction
Border
Deportation
2 Genders
Tariffs
Peace deals in Middle East and Ukraine.

You are denying that the above isn’t the exact platform that he’s executing now? Again, it might not work, but he’s doing what he said he would do.
Wow. He won on one point and you don’t even mention it. Inflation. DOGE wasn’t an actual thing until after the election, but it was included in Project 2025, which was a political cancer.

The “market correction” talking point is comical at best. When the market detects a disruption to future earnings, selloffs start. It’s usually not a direct response to the actions of the president….like we have here.

Once again, Trump takes over a red hot economy and fucks it up. Deny it all you like, it’s happening again.
 

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Wow. He won on one point and you don’t even mention it. Inflation. DOGE wasn’t an actual thing until after the election, but it was included in Project 2025, which was a political cancer.

The “market correction” talking point is comical at best. When the market detects a disruption to future earnings, selloffs start. It’s usually not a direct response to the actions of the president….like we have here.

Once again, Trump takes over a red hot economy and fucks it up. Deny it all you like, it’s happening again.
thank you. was gonna say this. he said he'd drop the price of eggs on day one.

the economy was consistently cited as the #1 reason people voted for him. i mean, stupid people, because he doesn't know shit about the economy (tariffs will fix everything!). but that is why they voted for him.

oh, here comes cie to remind us that you can't believe anything trump says on the campaign trail. the same guy who keeps saying that trump is doing exactly as he promised... on the campaign trail.

we've said it many times before... the cognitive dissonance is off the charts.

and i still love how cie really thinks this time may just be different. trump really cares about the debt now! yup, if there's one thing trump has established in his 50+ years as a "businessman"... it's that he's really good with debt.
 

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oh, here comes cie to remind us that you can't believe anything trump says on the campaign trail. the same guy who keeps saying that trump is doing exactly as he promised... on the campaign trail.


This should be on his signature, hell, he should get this tattooed on his ass.
 
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In the last 16 years, the national debt has nearly quadrupled from 10,000,000,000,000 to 36,100,000,000,000.

At that time, our debt to GDP ratio was about 64%. It’s 123% today. Our annual debt service is 1 trillion——It’s actually slightly less than 1 trillion, but well over 900 billion.

We are not, and have not been for quite some time, on an economically sustainable path. This is why more people voted for this president and for a Republican Senate and Republican house

The American people are tired of politicians pissing in our face telling us it’s raining. It’s time to change our path. I’m extremely hopeful that this works out
One of the top contributors to our national debt: tax cuts. Another is government spending with the #1 area being military.

What is your boy planning to do: Cut taxes and increase military spending.....and you're expecting a different/better result.
 

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One of the top contributors to our national debt: tax cuts. Another is government spending with the #1 area being military.

What is your boy planning to do: Cut taxes and increase military spending.....and you're expecting a different/better result.
I’ll be honest, I don’t want him to implement the no tax on tips, the no tax on overtime and the note tax on Social Security

I’d like to look into those types of options and other tax relief next year after they’ve been able to curb spending. I’m telling the right types in my group that I’d rather not mess with revenue at this point Unfortunately unfortunately, I get a lot of that’s what the tariffs are going to do

As I mentioned yesterday, I’m slightly less bullish on this working out than I was last month.
 

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You weren't too fucking relaxed while the economy was actually doing fine, but now we should take this debacle with a grain of salt?

Your guy is painting us into a corner......


Are you saying the economy was doing fine during Biden?
 
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