STRIKEFORCE CHALLENGERS:JUNE 19TH

[kegray1]

Strikeforce Challengers: Santos vs. Villasenor

Date: Jun 19, 2009
Location: Kent, Wash.
Venue: ShoWare Center
Broadcast: Showtime

* Joey Villasenor (26-6) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (16-12)
* Tim Kennedy (9-2) vs. Nick Thompson (38-10-1)
* Jorge Gurgel (12-5) vs. Conor Heun (8-2)
* Shayna Baszler (9-5) vs. Sarah Kaufman (8-0)
* Cory Devela (9-2) vs. Luke Rockhold (4-1)
* Dennis Hallman (40-12-2) vs. Cedric Marks (26-18)
* Brian Caraway (10-3) vs. Alex Zuniga (2-1)
* Lyle Beerbohm (9-0) vs. Duane Ludwig (18-8)
* Travis Doerge (4-8) vs. Landon Showalter (7-12-1)
* Len Bentley (3-2) vs. Marques Daniels (1-2)
* Steve Hadsel (1-0) vs. Taylor Roberts (1-1)

 

[kegray1]

Once again a card with some solid fighters and still no odds as of yet on any of my 3 books.

Any thoughts or opinions before odds come out??

MMA Friday nights is always a good thing.

 

[kickserv]

Jorge Gurgel is on the card......you know it is a good card if he's fighting:142smilie

 

[layinwood]

Kick, I was just getting ready to say that I have no clue who Conner Heun is but if he's a dog he's very live.

 

[gardenweasel]

gurgel again?.......good grief!...:142squint

 

[Ghost Kid]

Odds released:
http://www.bestfightodds.com/

Nothing yet for UFC TUF

 

[layinwood]

wow, is all I can say. I might take Gurgel in this one. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGg don't let me do it guys.

 

[gardenweasel]

i see one i like and one i`m "obligated" to play..

 

[Ghost Kid]

Shayna Baszler vs Cristiane Cyborg - EliteXC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCe-2Xe_xI

I forgot Cyborg knocked her out twice....that was some funny shit !
:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[The Brainiac]

maxed out Duane Ludwig + 120 and + 115 over Lyle BUMbohm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC4ictQ8jsY

Beerbohm spent a year and a half at the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla, Wash., as a result of multiple felony convictions, all related to his crystal meth addiction. But Beerbohm discovered MMA while locked up, and he knew he had found his new calling

Give me plus money on a guy like Ludwig over a bum with 9-0 or 10-0 any day of the week , this guy probably still doin some meth :mj07:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/lyle-beerbohm-23854

For some reason fight off youtube isn't even on his record :shrug: Look at the record of people he has fought :scared Only one with solid record is some 8-1 guy but then I checked his 8-1 and he has like 3 wins over BIG BIG ?!! :142smilie :mj07:

Duane has only lost to very game fighters , most are top 10 guys : Gomi on cut , Paul Daley but Daley would KO this Lyle in like 30 seconds , Josh Thompson , Tyson Griffin , BJ Penn .
You must be kidding me right ? I thought Duane would be atleast - 250 , last two fights he has won against Sam Morgan and Yves Edwards so I guess he still has some fuel left .
Not even to speak about their skill level and style ... Lyle is a typical jail brawler style vs a guy who went to decision with Masato P4P one of the best in K-1 , John Wayne Parr and Ramon Dekkers :scared . If you don't get KOed against those K-1 / muy thai legends sure you can survive against Lyle Bumbom ?
Anybody agree ? :shrug:

 

[layinwood]

Holy crap, what in the hell happened since yesterday? Brain, be very careful man. I was looking at that fight and thinking of taking Ludwig but he was -160. That was yesterday afternoon and now he's a dog. Something isn't right.

 

[gardenweasel]

as usual of late, 5 dimes is a poor second as far as posting timely linage....

i`m seriously looking to change books....5 dimes is as slow as using dial-up....

 

[kegray1]

Yeah 5dimes is better than this. Maybe somebody at Madjack can get on them about getting lines up sooner. At least they put up lines on most if not all type of cards which is WAY more than I can say for WSEX.
I am done with WSEX as soon as I get enough to be worth a cash out or lose it all.

 

[kegray1]

Oh and I do agree BIGTIME with Brainiac that Ludwig +120 is a serious gift. I thought Ludwig would be around -170 or something. He has been in there with some serious dudes and even beaten so good fighters.
Beerbohm has been fighting a bunch of "Boxcar" Willies. Beerbohm could catch him as he has KO power, but Ludwig experience will show in this one the longer it goes.

 

[layinwood]

Keg, Ludwig was -170 as of yesterday. That's how much the line moved in one day. Guys be careful on this one. We need to know why the line moved so far against Ludwig before jumping on.

 

[Ghost Kid]

An article on this Beerbohm cat
http://www.mmaunltd.com/news-detail.asp/NewsID/421/beerbohm-wants-to-be-the-champ.htm

another one
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/06/17/lyle-beerbohm-from-prison-inmate-to-undefeated-mma-fighter/

 

[kegray1]

Keg, Ludwig was -170 as of yesterday. That's how much the line moved in one day. Guys be careful on this one. We need to know why the line moved so far against Ludwig before jumping on.

Which book had that line?
I have 3 books and saw odds last night and on one and he was +115 on it. Other books have yet to post odds.
Was it just one book or did every book open with Ludwig -170?:shrug:

 

[layinwood]

BetCris had it yesterday at 170 but even when Sportsbook opened up he was a fav, just not as big.

 

[The Brainiac]

I dunno , maybe some people think 9-0 = new Machida :mj07: Ludwig doesn't have flawless record but he has fought em all ... as far as I can see this Beer dude wasn't a Cain Velasquez like wrestler before doing meth , he wasn't Mirko Crocop of K-1 or Demian Maia of BJJ :142smilie
Did you guys see this fight I've posted here ? Ludwig should Goulet him in 11 seconds :shrug:
I don't understand this one at all , it's like putting some guy with 30-0 boxing record against Klitschko and make him the favorite just cuz Klitschko has few losses on his record and other dude is 30-0 :mj07:
It's driving me nuts , seems like another gift like Villefort over back then undefeaded (4-0 ) HUGE prospect Mike Campbell ... who now is 4-2 and 2 losses by sub in combined 5 minutes :142smilie :mj07:

 

[layinwood]

Brain, it makes no sense at all. Most all MMA fans know Ludwig and hardly anyone knows the guy he's fighting. Why would the line go against Ludwig that quick and far? I was going to take Ludwig but at this point I'm steering clear. Too small an of an event and this has bad written all over it.