Strikeforce: "Henderson vs. Babalu", Dec. 4th, St. Louis, Missouri

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One hell of a weight difference in the Mike Kyle fight:scared :scared :scared :scared :scared :scared

Mike Kyle (219) vs. Antonio Silva (263)


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smith is a pedestrian fighter....if you took into account the actual scoring of all his fights(and disregard hail mary finishes),he loses practically every fight(recently..in the large organizations vs live opponents) ....practically every round...

he`s not a very good fighter...he`s there for entertainment value...people enjoy seeing him get maimed with the potential of lucking out late with a big shot...leanard garcia is very similar....

they`re dana white`s kind of fighters...glorified "toughman" contestants...

these two are also most likely to create problems for mma`s future...why?...because imo,they are the guys most likely to become seriously injured in the ring at some point...there was a time when mma had trouble getting sanctioned because of it`s brutality...one ring death and the critics will come out of the closet en masse...

now, smith is the bigger man here...but he`s cutting to 170....

i guess he could outlast daley..but daley`s never been k.o.`ed(short of a one-time thumb injury stoppage)....and that weight cut at over 30 probably won`t help his conditioning...

he`s not nearly as technical or quick as daley...and he fights daley`s fight......a perfect storm...

will he be able to take a ridiculous pummeling and somehow outlast daley?...

i guess it`s possible...but he`ll take some god-awful punishment doing so....

my personal opinion is that daley hits harder and is just plain tougher and better than guys like radach and pete sell...particlarly vs a guy that will do exactly what daley wants him to do...

if you check daley`s resume,most accomplished wrestler/grappler/jiu jits guys have an excellent chance of beating him...and some do ...that`s not smith`s thing,though...



but who knows?...maybe he`s the first to out-strike daley...be a real feather in his cap...

i just hope he doesn`t get killed..

i totally agree with ya Weasy. Ya got to like Smith heart but this is about talent and Smith is way in over his head here.
 

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Preview of Lawler-Lindland and Daley-Smith

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Well watching some inside MMA Baus was talking about Smith finally training with a boxing coach because his feet are a mess and Baus couldn't wait to see how many changes Smith has made because of all the knockout he has had without a boxing coach. :facepalm: Now i got to back off even tho i still think he loses.
 

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i don`t know where bas gets the "smith never had a boxing coach" stuff...the guy fought on the ultimate fighter show.....he fought in elite xc,strikeforce and the ufc....

he`s been in numerous high profile fights....


and he never had a boxing coach?.....

this comment before the second cung le fight...

""Smith added a new boxing coach, Mike Guy, to his camp to train for the fight.

?He is really working on my movement and angles,? Smith said. ?I am working on more boxing movements.?"


lol...the guy trained at the most accomplished muay thai gym in thailand...

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of course,this doesn`t mean he doesn`t have a puncher`s chance...we`ve seen this guy pull em out of the fire so many times....

should be a great fight...
 

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i don`t know where bas gets the "smith never had a boxing coach" stuff...the guy fought on the ultimate fighter show.....he fought in elite xc,strikeforce and the ufc....

he`s been in numerous high profile fights....


and he never had a boxing coach?.....

this comment before the second cung le fight...

""Smith added a new boxing coach, Mike Guy, to his camp to train for the fight.

?He is really working on my movement and angles,? Smith said. ?I am working on more boxing movements.?"


lol...the guy trained at the most accomplished muay thai gym in thailand...

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of course,this doesn`t mean he doesn`t have a puncher`s chance...we`ve seen this guy pull em out of the fire so many times....

should be a great fight...

This is the Delahoya week :facepalm: . Buyer beware.
 

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Scott Smith beat Paul Daley $3.90 (+290) *1 Joe Rogan

Scott Smith beat Paul Daley $4.15 (+315) *half Joe Rogan

Ovince St. Preux beat Benji Radach $1.91 (-110) *1.5 Joe Rogans


Parlay
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Dan Henderson
Robbie Lawler
Antonio Silva

odds = $2.76 (+176) *1 Joe Rogan
 

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have to admit,the smith odds are out of whack....way too high...daley is parlay material...only...

1)wilkinson +130(5 dimes)/+160(brobury)..

2)bigfoot/paixao par..roughly even odds...

was hoping for some daley itd props.....unfortunately,not gonna happen...

edit...i wanted more action,but i don`t want to put up real money...so a longshot par at better than 8-1.....wilkinson-115/campuzano-135/st preux-120/watson-170.......
 
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Ovince St. Preux wins easily:00hour


Although.........he shouldn't be that happy with the win. Radach took that fight on short notice. He was gassed.
 

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Just as kickserv said...........Lindland brain is mush.

Man what an easy selection with Lawler.


Lindland should retire.


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