The day after

[Trench]

crying on cue is a good trait for the Speaker of the House to have

What is it with these crying righties like Beck and Boehner? :shrug:

Hey Scotty... Cie says you're not as intelligent as Dogs. Must be because you don't read Michelle Malkin's or Jonah Goldberg's blaaawwwgs, huh? :142smilie

 

[Duff Miver]

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crying on cue is a good trait for the Speaker of the House to have

You can find a crying drunk like Bonehead in most any bar. Boo-hoo...sniffle...sniffle...pour me another double.:facepalm:

 

[Trench]

You can find a crying drunk like Bonehead in most any bar. Boo-hoo...sniffle...sniffle...pour me another double.:facepalm:

:mj07:

Aint that the truth, Duff... :142smilie

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

right at the end

"your opinion dont have to be based on facts"


I swear that is DTBlackassgumby saying that


teabaggers and birthers fit in the same mold

dumb as rocks

That is an awesome final 45 seconds. What a fool.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

right at the end

"your opinion dont have to be based on facts"


I swear that is DTBlackassgumby saying that


teabaggers and birthers fit in the same mold

dumb as rocks

you're not smart enough to comprehend what anybody thinks Scott--

you forget you were the one exposed for taking car accident settlement--then blowing it on buy high sell low/dime wagers--then bitching because you couldn't pay your bills because of no health insurance.


on day after--
Have seen many articles erronously referring to election as madate on dems. I agree again with Charles below--and not mandate on Dems but on liberal agenda of a few--and expect the moderate dems to learn vaulable lesson on past 2 years and steer the party back to Dems of the past- who we need to keep a balanced congress.

A return to the norm


By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, November 5, 2010

For all the turmoil, the spectacle, the churning - for all the old bulls slain and fuzzy-cheeked freshmen born - the great Republican wave of 2010 is simply a return to the norm. The tide had gone out; the tide came back. A center-right country restores the normal congressional map: a sea of interior red, bordered by blue coasts and dotted by blue islands of ethnic/urban density.
Or to put it numerically, the Republican wave of 2010 did little more than undo the two-stage Democratic wave of 2006-2008 in which the Democrats gained 54 House seats combined (precisely the size of the anti-Democratic wave of 1994). In 2010 the Democrats gave it all back, plus about an extra 10 seats or so for good - chastening - measure.
The conventional wisdom is that these sweeps represent something novel, exotic and very modern - the new media, faster news cycles, Internet frenzy and a public with a short attention span and even less patience with government. Or alternatively, that these violent swings reflect reduced party loyalty and more independent voters.
Nonsense. In 1946, for example, when party loyalty was much stronger and even television was largely unknown, the Republicans gained 56 seats and then lost 75 in the very next election. Waves come. Waves go. The republic endures.
Our two most recent swing cycles were triggered by unusually jarring historical events. The 2006 Republican "thumpin'" (to quote George W. Bush) was largely a reflection of the disillusionment and near-despair of a wearying war that appeared to be lost. And 2008 occurred just weeks after the worst financial collapse in eight decades.
Similarly, the massive Republican swing of 2010 was a reaction to another rather unprecedented development - a ruling party spectacularly misjudging its mandate and taking an unwilling country through a two-year experiment in hyper-liberalism.
A massive government restructuring of the health-care system. An $800 billion-plus stimulus that did not halt the rise in unemployment. And a cap-and-trade regime reviled outside the bicoastal liberal enclaves that luxuriate in environmental righteousness - so reviled that the Democratic senatorial candidate in West Virginia literally put a bullet through the bill in his own TV ad. He won. Handily.
Opposition to the policies was compounded by the breathtaking arrogance with which they were imposed. Ignored was the unmistakable message from the 2009-10 off-year elections culminating in Scott Brown's anti-Obamacare victory in bluer-than-blue Massachusetts. Moreover, Obamacare and the stimulus were passed on near-total party-line votes - legal, of course, but deeply offensive to the people's sense of democratic legitimacy. Never before had anything of this size and scope been passed on a purely partisan basis. (Social Security commanded 81 House Republicans; the 1964 Civil Rights Act, 136; Medicare, 70.)
Tuesday was the electorate's first opportunity to render a national verdict on this manner of governance. The rejection was stunning. As a result, President Obama's agenda is dead. And not just now. No future Democratic president will try to revive it - and if he does, no Congress will follow him, in view of the carnage visited upon Democrats on Tuesday.
This is not, however, a rejection of Democrats as a party. The center-left party as represented by Bill Clinton remains competitive in every cycle. (Which is why he was the most popular, sought-after Democrat in the current cycle.) The lesson of Tuesday is that the American game is played between the 40-yard lines. So long as Democrats don't repeat Obama's drive for the red zone, Democrats will cyclically prevail, just as Republicans do.

Nor should Republicans overinterpret their Tuesday mandate. They received none.

They were merely rewarded for acting as the people's proxy in saying no to Obama's overreaching liberalism.

As one wag put it, this wasn't an election so much as a restraining order.

The Republicans won by default. And their prize is nothing more than a two-year lease on the House. The building was available because the previous occupant had been evicted for arrogant misbehavior and, by rule, alas, the House cannot be left vacant.
The president, however, remains clueless. In his next-day news conference, he had the right demeanor - subdued, his closest approximation of humility - but was uncomprehending about what just happened. The "folks" are apparently just "frustrated" that "progress" is just too slow. Asked three times whether popular rejection of his policy agenda might have had something to do with the shellacking he took, he looked as if he'd been asked whether the sun had risen in the West. Why, no, he said.

 

[THE KOD]

you're not smart enough to comprehend what anybody thinks Scott--

you forget you were the one exposed for taking car accident settlement--.

..................................................................


We havnt had the trial yet

Coming in 2011 though.

I love the way you say exposed when you dont even know wtf your talking about other ppls business.

you just beat all blackassgumby

 

[THE KOD]

Would really make more sense for
Bohener to have a budweiser in his hand

 

[THE KOD]

I watched a show on the news yesterday and the question posed to the Rep was this.


OK how do you cut the deficit ?


Rep- We got to cut spending

Interviewer - how will you do that

Rep - by cutting spending

Int - ok then what spending will you cut ?

Rep - we will cut spending.



Its a old game in town. If these neocon rightwing teabaggers say medicare and Soc Securiy and defense.

Guess what


We get Obama again in 2012

They aint that stupid.

We will cut spending:142smilie

Fawk me the joke is on us and never ends.

So that means when these yahoos go into the House and try to get Boner to do anything productive, it will never happen.

its calle Gridlock

Live it, learn it, love it

After all its the American way and the two party system needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.

But just like the Republicans, I have not the answers. But if they asked me I am sure I could tell them what to do.

Say for a stipend, expense account, a new SUV caddy , a trip to Hawaii , and a suitcase full of 100s

 

[kcwolf]

Most read articles--from real clear politics


Most Read
Last 24 Hours
Midterms May Have Saved a Superpower
- Nile Gardiner, Daily Telegraph
Republican Party Time: Man Up Mr. Speaker!
- Maureen Dowd, NY Times
For Obama, the Tide Turns Starkly
- Peter Baker, New York Times
Exit Polls: Unprecedented White Flight from Dems
- David Paul Kuhn, RCP

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exit poll data USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2010-11-03-Analysis_N.htm

Obama coalition frays amid voter angst

voter earthquake
Big swings by some key groups reflected a voter earthquake that shook some assumptions about the partisan landscape:
?Independents nationwide supported Republicans by a 15 percentage-points margin, according to the exit polls. Four years earlier, they had backed congressional Democrats by 18 points ? a swing of a stunning 33 points.
"The angry independents" went to the polls, says GOP pollster Ed Goeas, calling their votes "a rejection of the Obama solutions" on the economy.
?Women, traditionally a mainstay for Democrats, were equally likely to vote for GOP candidates for the first time in at least three decades. Four years ago, they had backed Democrats by 12 points.
"Men are angry, rebellious; women are more disappointed" by economic policies pursued by the White House and Congress, said Democratic pollster Celinda Lake. "Women feel the policies helped the banks and Wall Street more than they helped families at their kitchen table."
?Seniors, the age group most skeptical of the health care law, moved to the GOP. Those 65 and older split between the two parties in 2008 but backed Republicans by 19 points this time.
Older voters also turned out, boosting their clout in a year in which turnout was down. Two years ago, 16% of the electorate was 65 and older. This year, the age group made up about 25% of voters.
?Middle-class Americans turned toward Republicans. Those with family incomes of $50,000 to $75,000 a year had supported congressional Democrats by 5 points in 2008; now they backed Republicans by 6.
Voters with only a high school education did the same. In 2008, they supported Democrats by 12 points. Tuesday, they backed the GOP by 6.
Democrats suffered setbacks across the Rust Belt, states from Pennsylvania to Minnesota that backed Obama in 2008 but have been hit hard by the faltering economy. Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold lost in Wisconsin and Republican Pat Toomey won a Democrat-held Senate seat in Pennsylvania. Democrats dropped five congressional seats in Ohio, five in Pennsylvania, three in Illinois, two in Indiana and one in Michigan.
Almost every voter group agreed on the issue driving their vote: The economy. Six in 10 said in exit polls the economy is the most important issue facing the nation, and for many, it was personal. Four in 10 said their families were worse off financially than they were two years ago, and one in three said someone in their household had lost a job in the past two years.
"They all share a common problem, and that's the economy, the concern about jobs, the concern about making mortgage payments," said Andrew Kohut, director of the non-partisan Pew Research Center. "The frustration with the lack of progress is a commonly shared experience, and that's why you see such an across-the-board Republican tide."
Democrats continued to claim strong support among some groups, including the young people who were a signature component of the Obama coalition in 2008. They supported Democratic candidates by 19 points this year.
Many of the first-time voters who turned out two years ago ? including young people, African Americans and Hispanics ? didn't show up Tuesday.
"This is a different electorate," Goeas said. Two years ago, voters under 30 made up 18% of the electorate. This year, they made up just 11%.
The voters who cast ballots this time also were older, less racially diverse and more conservative. The percentage of white voters ticked up, compared with 2008. In 2006, three in 10 voters called themselves conservative. This time, four in 10 did.
Only three times in the past century has the nation seen such significant turnover in Congress for three elections or more in a row: The tumultuous period before and after World War I, including the Democratic realignment consolidated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1932, and the partisan turmoil after World War II. Then, control of the House switched back and forth.
In 1952, Republicans won control of the House only to lose it two years later. Forty years would pass before they would get it back again in 1994.
A vote against, not for
The turbulence in U.S. politics today isn't because Americans are changing their minds about which party they prefer, said William Galston, a White House adviser to President Clinton now at the Brookings Institution.
It's because they don't like either one.

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Where did America tune in--

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/11/03/fox-news-dominates-cable-news-election-night-coverage/70725

Unsurprisingly FNC easily won in primetime as well as the 5p-7pm period. CNN pulled ahead of MSNBC but not nearly by the margins separating FNC and CNN.
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=407><COLGROUP><COL span=2 width=64></COL><COL span=3 width=93></COL><TBODY><TR height=20><TD height=20 width=64>8-11p ET</TD><TD width=64></TD><TD width=93>MSNBC</TD><TD width=93>CNN</TD><TD width=93>FNC</TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20>P2+</TD><TD></TD><TD>1,945,000</TD><TD>2,423,000</TD><TD>6,957,000</TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20>25-54</TD><TD></TD><TD>669,000</TD><TD>1,030,000</TD><TD>2,431,000</TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20>5p-7p</TD><TD></TD><TD>MSNBC</TD><TD>CNN</TD><TD>FNC</TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20>P2+</TD><TD></TD><TD>869,000</TD><TD>945,000</TD><TD>3,092,000</TD></TR><TR height=20><TD height=20>25-54</TD><TD></TD><TD>256,000</TD><TD>283,000</TD><TD>750,000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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--and best part of day after was O's speech --highlighting returning bi partisanship and nation uniting again--

Malikin had good article on subject--

Just two short years ago, Obama campaigned as the transcendent unifier. ?Young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled, Americans have sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of red states and blue states,? he proclaimed. ?We have been and always will be the United States of America.?

It?s been an Us vs. Them freefall ever since.

?We don?t mind the Republicans joining us,? Obama taunted a few weeks ago. ?They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.?

?They?re counting on young people staying home and union members staying home and black folks staying home,? the fear-mongering agent of hope and change jeered on the campaign trail last month.

?You would think they?d be saying thank you,? he sneered last April, when millions turned out for the nationwide Tax Day tea party protests.

?I want them just to get out of the way? and ?don?t do a lot of talking,? he scoffed in response to prescient critics of the federal trillion-dollar stimulus boondoggle.

In addition to labeling GOP opponents of his open-borders policies ?enemies? who needed to be ?punished? by Latino voters, Obama accused them ? that is, us ? of lacking patriotism. ?Those aren?t the kinds of folks who represent our core American values,? he told viewers of the Spanish-language network Univision.

Thanks DTB. I always wanted to know the top read articles @Clear. You saved me valuable time.

Thanks again!

BTW, you still sticking to Obama's executive order as against transparency? :facepalm:

Or me living in Vegas where it was only a cheap green fee GC? :mj07:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Thanks DTB. I always wanted to know the top read articles @Clear. You saved me valuable time.

Thanks again!

BTW, you still sticking to Obama's executive order as against transparency? :facepalm:

Or me living in Vegas where it was only a cheap green fee GC? :mj07:

Your welcome-

Heres another you might like--just out today--from US News--looks like he might have tough time in 2014 if they can't get the illegals added to voting block.

America's Love Affair With Obama Is Over

The public disillusionment has now hardened. In a Quinnipiac poll this summer, only 28 percent of white voters said they would back Obama for a second term if the election were held then. Still, those results do not mean the public will go Republican next time. It depends on the candidate and the party. A centrist Democrat could win again?someone like [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]retiring[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] Sen. Evan Bayh, who sets a better course for the party in a New York Times op-ed. "A good place to start would be tax reform. Get rates down to make American businesses globally competitive," he writes. "Simplify the code to reduce compliance costs and broaden the base. . . . Ban earmarks until the [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]budget[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]

is balanced [and] support a freeze on federal hiring and pay increases."

The love affair with Obama is over. The jobless will be the new swing voters. Unemployment, underemployment, and collapsing [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]home [/FONT][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]equity[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]

will be the leading factors in 2012. The administration hopes the economy will have improved significantly by then, but it is running out of time and out of the confidence of the American public.


As political analyst Charlie Cook put it: "Every month, every week, every day that Washington seemed focused on healthcare instead of the economy frightened people. It seemed out of touch." It also seemed tone-deaf to the public's concern with unemployment, the cost of [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]government[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], and the sense that America was declining in its ability to compete in the world. It made Obama's behavior seem as if he headed the most liberal wing of the Democratic Party in [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Congress[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], particularly when he allowed the major policies of his presidency to be written not by his cabinet or the White House staff but by the [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]congressional[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Then he accepted the lopsided bills that emerged and the political corruption that accompanied them?the very processes he condemned during his campaign and that are so much distrusted by a broad section of the American public. Eighty-five percent of Americans were concerned about the cost of healthcare, but the administration focused on extending coverage.
The open purchasing of votes through the provision of special exemptions for five states and for unions, and concessions to many of the special interests in the Democratic Party, especially trial lawyers, symbolized the corruption of our politics. The 2009 omnibus spending bill alone contained 8,570 special earmarks like those that had so enraged the American public in the past. When lawmakers had no time to even read the bills, it gave the impression that what was important was passing anything, no matter how ineffectual. Obama had promised he would change "politics as usual." He changed it all right, but for the worse. The list of his additional programs only provoked the public's distaste for big government, big spending, and big deficits.

As political analyst Charlie Cook put it: "Every month, every week, every day that Washington seemed focused on healthcare instead of the economy frightened people. It seemed out of touch." It also seemed tone-deaf to the public's concern with unemployment, the cost of [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]government[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], and the sense that America was declining in its ability to compete in the world. It made Obama's behavior seem as if he headed the most liberal wing of the Democratic Party in [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Congress[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], particularly when he allowed the major policies of his presidency to be written not by his cabinet or the White House staff but by the [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]congressional[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Then he accepted the lopsided bills that emerged and the political corruption that accompanied them?the very processes he condemned during his campaign and that are so much distrusted by a broad section of the American public. Eighty-five percent of Americans were concerned about the cost of healthcare, but the administration focused on extending coverage.
The open purchasing of votes through the provision of special exemptions for five states and for unions, and concessions to many of the special interests in the Democratic Party, especially trial lawyers, symbolized the corruption of our politics. The 2009 omnibus spending bill alone contained 8,570 special earmarks like those that had so enraged the American public in the past. When lawmakers had no time to even read the bills, it gave the impression that what was important was passing anything, no matter how ineffectual. Obama had promised he would change "politics as usual." He changed it all right, but for the worse. The list of his additional programs only provoked the public's distaste for big government, big spending, and big deficits.
Today the polls indicate that the president has reached a point where a majority of Americans have no confidence, or just some, that he will make the right decisions for the country. There isn't a single critical problem on which the president has a positive rating. It didn't help when he kept on and on asserting that he had inherited a terrible situation from the Bush administration. Yes, enough, and sir, the country elected you to solve problems, not to complain about them.
It did not help that the administration had completely lost the support of the business community, where virtually no one has a good word to say about the administration and where there is no go-to, high-level businessman in Obama's inner circle. The result was to make corporate America lose even more confidence in making investment decisions.
[See editorial cartoons about the economy.]
Obama's job approval rating has fallen well below 50 percent overall, but the numbers are lower among whites and even lower among working-class whites, whose revolt may be the defining characteristic of 2010 (counting even more than the rise of the mostly white and affluent Tea Party movement). These were the famous "Reagan Democrats." They felt that the economy was collapsing around them and that their president was out of touch. In addition, as those exit polls confirm, Democrats have for some time been losing vast pieces of their core constituencies among women, independents, college graduates, and the elderly.
As for the public's hope for bipartisanship, Obama's partisan approach was underlined by putting forth one of the most liberal budget programs in decades. This failure was captured most recently in a New York Times front-page story that reported that for the first 18 months of his presidency, Obama would not meet one-on-one with the Republican leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell. This is not bipartisanship, and inviting a few [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Republican[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] congressmen to the White House for the Super Bowl is no answer.

The public disillusionment has now hardened. In a Quinnipiac poll this summer, only 28 percent of white voters said they would back Obama for a second term if the election were held then. Still, those results do not mean the public will go Republican next time. It depends on the candidate and the party. A centrist Democrat could win again?someone like [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]retiring[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] Sen. Evan Bayh, who sets a better course for the party in a New York Times op-ed. "A good place to start would be tax reform. Get rates down to make American businesses globally competitive," he writes. "Simplify the code to reduce compliance costs and broaden the base. . . . Ban earmarks until the [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]budget[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] is balanced [and] support a freeze on federal hiring and pay increases."
The love affair with Obama is over. The jobless will be the new swing voters. Unemployment, underemployment, and collapsing [COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]home [/FONT][COLOR=#005497 !important][FONT='Lucida Grande', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]equity[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] will be the leading factors in 2012. The administration hopes the economy will have improved significantly by then, but it is running out of time and out of the confidence of the American public.

 

[THE KOD]

Another thing I hear the neocons say over and over.

We got to reduce goverment. Shrink it . Keep goverment in check, nice and small.

WTF is this ?

Goverment is not small , aint going to be small, and never will be small again.

Why do they say this ?

The neocons have this in their head that this can be done.

Its just one more thing that totally wastes peoples time talking about , but the rightwingers continue to put it up there like its the way to go.

what a joke

 

[THE KOD]

chance are we never hear anything about this again. :142smilie

 

[Trench]

You can find a crying drunk like Bonehead in most any bar. Boo-hoo...sniffle...sniffle...pour me another double.:facepalm:

You can also find a crying drunk behind the podium on election night, Duff... :142smilie

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