The Masters
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golf stats...
golf stats...
can anybody help me with a good site to look up a player's round-by-round scoring from past majors and tournaments? reason I am asking is b/c I want to back-up and support what I believe is early success (thurs & fri) in majors by KJ Choi...seems he falls off down the stretch, but I want to say he is up near the top of the board more often than he isn't here the past 2 years or so.
any help would be appreciated. thanks
golf stats...
can anybody help me with a good site to look up a player's round-by-round scoring from past majors and tournaments? reason I am asking is b/c I want to back-up and support what I believe is early success (thurs & fri) in majors by KJ Choi...seems he falls off down the stretch, but I want to say he is up near the top of the board more often than he isn't here the past 2 years or so.
any help would be appreciated. thanks
Stanley...
Stanley...
With the stat posted above, does there not appear to be value in Vijay to finish within the top 7 at +119 (pinny)? agree with your rationale that the lengthening will help.
Stanley...
With the stat posted above, does there not appear to be value in Vijay to finish within the top 7 at +119 (pinny)? agree with your rationale that the lengthening will help.
I took Tiger +310 & Mickelson +650 for a c-note each.
I also did a random draft and got a fairly decent team. Winner gets $700.
My team (Top 4 scores are added up to detrmine a winner)
1. Woods
2. Toms
3. Clarke
4. Chad Campbell
5. Johnson
6. Immelman
7. Crane
8. Daly
9. Funk
I like my chances.
I also did a random draft and got a fairly decent team. Winner gets $700.
My team (Top 4 scores are added up to detrmine a winner)
1. Woods
2. Toms
3. Clarke
4. Chad Campbell
5. Johnson
6. Immelman
7. Crane
8. Daly
9. Funk
I like my chances.
Some big differences in the matchups at 5Dimes regarding the tee times, so these look good:
Pampling ov Verplank 1st rnd@2.02(8:00 AM - 11:40AM)
Langer ov Cink 1st rnd @1.90 (11:29AM-12:57PM)
Donald ov Garcia 1st rnd@1.90(10:01AM-1:08PM)
Even without tee time differences these wouldn't look too bad
Pampling ov Verplank 1st rnd@2.02(8:00 AM - 11:40AM)
Langer ov Cink 1st rnd @1.90 (11:29AM-12:57PM)
Donald ov Garcia 1st rnd@1.90(10:01AM-1:08PM)
Even without tee time differences these wouldn't look too bad
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OUTRIGHTS:
Ernie Els(10/1) e.w. (ante-post) @ Bet365
- - Augusta is the right place for Ernie's "return" to the majors. Back in January, every scenario I could spin for Ernie's season had him present and accounted for on the leaderboard this week - a place where the same faces thrive year after year. Almost three months later, the storyline that seems to have taken shape - which was one of the specific scenarios contemplated in January - has featured game killing pressing of late, on top of other arguable discombobulations; now on the grounds of the place and tournament he genuinely loves seems the right moment when Els plays golf and more or less instinctively stops focusing on his swing and mechanics . . . The fire beneath an uncharacteristic display of frustration on the 9th hole of the Players Championship was OK to see from The Big Quitter (i.e., Tom Meeks of the U.S.G.A.), but what had my eyes rolling was his decision to unveil a center shafted putter - that was not the right answer in my book . . . But if memory serves, there is some helpful precedent: Maybe it was an earlier year, but wasn't it 2004 when Phil Mickelson unveiled a potato masher contraption, instead of his classic blade putter, for the greens at Doral and elsewhere in Florida, but common sense prevailed, the right choice was made at Augusta, and the rest is history . ? .? .
Phil Mickelson(+650) e.w. @ GolfingGods
- - Lefty's wedge play around the greens has definitely been a little off this season, and now the plan is to add a second driver; regardless, if his genius around the greens is on display again this week, the winner of 2 of the last 8 majors will not be finishing outside the Top 5.
Stephen Ames(80/1)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5-6) e.w. @ GolfingGods
- - "9 and 8" and the circumstances that earn you that moniker among your peers is not likely to be just another incident in the course of an otherwise long and cyclical season - it seems much more likely to be tied up in defining a season by setting you back for a while or making you significantly stronger . . . During decades of watching LOTS of meaningful golf, the run by Stephen Ames that was on display in 2004 constituted perhaps the finest zone of precise ball striking through the late spring and summer months that I've ever witnessed by any player without a list of championships as long as their sleeve, and is a level of form I'll always associate with his name. With that salient fact safely tucked away from 2004, it requires noting that Ames' putting can now look second to none, which is something I don't recall about his game when he first emerged in 2004 (although his chipping and pitching from close to the green still remain the weakest links in his game), and IMO his comportment and maturity in Sunday style situations have also progressed noticeably, so when Mr. "9 and 8" dropped hints of nothing but rounding into form in recent weeks, there was absoluetley zero chance I would hesitate and let a spot that maybe owed Ames something (Craig Perks????) slip by . . . I'm not about to pick up the marker from the biggest winning wager of my life and still feel like I'm deserving of ever winning another wager, but the fact of the matter is that I don't foresee Stephen and his brother Robert having their act turn immediately stale.
Stephen Ames(60/1)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. for 1st Round Leader @ GolfingGods
- - Requires an exception to the rule of typical Thursday openers from good ol' 9 and 8. It works for me.
Tiger Woods(+400) WIN Only @ GolfingGods
- - As ever, I make a wager in the Grand Slam events as some sort of insurance against; last year's concession on my part that, "it's been long enough that I could easily pull for the Chosen One (Big Occasion Cablinasian, Eldrick of Windermere, History, Major Major, Money, Sam, T, the Man, the Show, the Striped One, the Terminator, the Universal Child, the Zone, Urkel) in the right situation," was in stark contrast to my usual rooting interest as a golf fan, but that sentiment is definitely off the table in 2006 after Tiger added two more scalps last year before deciding Monday at Baltusrol wasn't worth his while.
Chris DiMarco(33/1) e.w. (ante-post) @ Bet365
- - I can still believe (hope) that an ante-post wager holds lots of merit without retaining its value.
ODDS AND ENDS:
(1) Props to DTB for last year's post on the course setup:
Friday should let up a little
- - "(Thursday) has a 90 percent chance of being brutal, with pins tucked and tees tipped. Friday should let up a little, giving players a chance to shoot for the cut line. Saturday will turn harsh again, separating contenders from pretenders . . . Then Sunday will be fair pins with scoring conditions optimal and 100 percent chance of high drama . . . "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," Masters (Tournament) Chairman Hootie Johnson said of the formula that has worked for more than 70 years . . . "We've been doing this 68 years," he said. "We know the golf course" . . . We try to test all parts of the game all week with a bias toward the finesse players," said Will Nicholson, the former USGA president who leads the Masters' rules and competition committees. "On Sunday, we let the shotmakers take over."
(2) Overall, with posted plays at Madjack's from 2002-2006, the Masters, Open Championship and Players Championship have been exceptionally good events for me, while the U.S. Open and P.G.A. have been definite disappointments . . . As ever, it's been prelude up to now, and the culmination of the first chapter of another season is at hand.
(3) Lots of intriguing storylines among the debutantes; for at least a month I've fancied Ogilvy in that specialty market, but I still need to pull the trigger. Goosen on glassy greens and in good form is hard to overlook. The "Without Big 5" market needs to be dabbled in.
GL
1966 - Augusta National - 2nd Tee
Ernie Els(10/1) e.w. (ante-post) @ Bet365
- - Augusta is the right place for Ernie's "return" to the majors. Back in January, every scenario I could spin for Ernie's season had him present and accounted for on the leaderboard this week - a place where the same faces thrive year after year. Almost three months later, the storyline that seems to have taken shape - which was one of the specific scenarios contemplated in January - has featured game killing pressing of late, on top of other arguable discombobulations; now on the grounds of the place and tournament he genuinely loves seems the right moment when Els plays golf and more or less instinctively stops focusing on his swing and mechanics . . . The fire beneath an uncharacteristic display of frustration on the 9th hole of the Players Championship was OK to see from The Big Quitter (i.e., Tom Meeks of the U.S.G.A.), but what had my eyes rolling was his decision to unveil a center shafted putter - that was not the right answer in my book . . . But if memory serves, there is some helpful precedent: Maybe it was an earlier year, but wasn't it 2004 when Phil Mickelson unveiled a potato masher contraption, instead of his classic blade putter, for the greens at Doral and elsewhere in Florida, but common sense prevailed, the right choice was made at Augusta, and the rest is history . ? .? .
Phil Mickelson(+650) e.w. @ GolfingGods
- - Lefty's wedge play around the greens has definitely been a little off this season, and now the plan is to add a second driver; regardless, if his genius around the greens is on display again this week, the winner of 2 of the last 8 majors will not be finishing outside the Top 5.
Stephen Ames(80/1)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5-6) e.w. @ GolfingGods
- - "9 and 8" and the circumstances that earn you that moniker among your peers is not likely to be just another incident in the course of an otherwise long and cyclical season - it seems much more likely to be tied up in defining a season by setting you back for a while or making you significantly stronger . . . During decades of watching LOTS of meaningful golf, the run by Stephen Ames that was on display in 2004 constituted perhaps the finest zone of precise ball striking through the late spring and summer months that I've ever witnessed by any player without a list of championships as long as their sleeve, and is a level of form I'll always associate with his name. With that salient fact safely tucked away from 2004, it requires noting that Ames' putting can now look second to none, which is something I don't recall about his game when he first emerged in 2004 (although his chipping and pitching from close to the green still remain the weakest links in his game), and IMO his comportment and maturity in Sunday style situations have also progressed noticeably, so when Mr. "9 and 8" dropped hints of nothing but rounding into form in recent weeks, there was absoluetley zero chance I would hesitate and let a spot that maybe owed Ames something (Craig Perks????) slip by . . . I'm not about to pick up the marker from the biggest winning wager of my life and still feel like I'm deserving of ever winning another wager, but the fact of the matter is that I don't foresee Stephen and his brother Robert having their act turn immediately stale.
Stephen Ames(60/1)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. for 1st Round Leader @ GolfingGods
- - Requires an exception to the rule of typical Thursday openers from good ol' 9 and 8. It works for me.
Tiger Woods(+400) WIN Only @ GolfingGods
- - As ever, I make a wager in the Grand Slam events as some sort of insurance against; last year's concession on my part that, "it's been long enough that I could easily pull for the Chosen One (Big Occasion Cablinasian, Eldrick of Windermere, History, Major Major, Money, Sam, T, the Man, the Show, the Striped One, the Terminator, the Universal Child, the Zone, Urkel) in the right situation," was in stark contrast to my usual rooting interest as a golf fan, but that sentiment is definitely off the table in 2006 after Tiger added two more scalps last year before deciding Monday at Baltusrol wasn't worth his while.
Chris DiMarco(33/1) e.w. (ante-post) @ Bet365
- - I can still believe (hope) that an ante-post wager holds lots of merit without retaining its value.
ODDS AND ENDS:
(1) Props to DTB for last year's post on the course setup:
Friday should let up a little
- - "(Thursday) has a 90 percent chance of being brutal, with pins tucked and tees tipped. Friday should let up a little, giving players a chance to shoot for the cut line. Saturday will turn harsh again, separating contenders from pretenders . . . Then Sunday will be fair pins with scoring conditions optimal and 100 percent chance of high drama . . . "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," Masters (Tournament) Chairman Hootie Johnson said of the formula that has worked for more than 70 years . . . "We've been doing this 68 years," he said. "We know the golf course" . . . We try to test all parts of the game all week with a bias toward the finesse players," said Will Nicholson, the former USGA president who leads the Masters' rules and competition committees. "On Sunday, we let the shotmakers take over."
(2) Overall, with posted plays at Madjack's from 2002-2006, the Masters, Open Championship and Players Championship have been exceptionally good events for me, while the U.S. Open and P.G.A. have been definite disappointments . . . As ever, it's been prelude up to now, and the culmination of the first chapter of another season is at hand.
(3) Lots of intriguing storylines among the debutantes; for at least a month I've fancied Ogilvy in that specialty market, but I still need to pull the trigger. Goosen on glassy greens and in good form is hard to overlook. The "Without Big 5" market needs to be dabbled in.
GL
1966 - Augusta National - 2nd Tee
Hate to just play chalk...But how can you not throw a few dimes on Tiger @ 3/1.
Risking $50.00 to win $147.50
Tiger Woods...Masters Winner (+295)
Risking $50.00 to win $147.50
Tiger Woods...Masters Winner (+295)
Just had my Draft. Picked 8, 10 Teams, 4 have to make the Cut, best 4 Players..
Harrington
Scott
Couples
Lehman
Glover
O'Hair
Ogilviy, J
Bohn
Harrington
Scott
Couples
Lehman
Glover
O'Hair
Ogilviy, J
Bohn
Masters Plays
Masters Plays
Masters Week is a Great Week
Sergio Garcia WINS MASTERS pick @+28.00
Ernie Els WINS MASTERS pick @+11.00
Adam Scott WINS MASTERS pick @+40.00
Sergio Garcia OV/David Toms pick @-1.20
Padraig Harrington OV/Lee Westwpick @-1.60
Ernie Els OV/Luke Donald pick @-1.60
Good Luck to all. Will be back with Weekend Plays.
Masters Plays
Masters Week is a Great Week
Sergio Garcia WINS MASTERS pick @+28.00
Ernie Els WINS MASTERS pick @+11.00
Adam Scott WINS MASTERS pick @+40.00
Sergio Garcia OV/David Toms pick @-1.20
Padraig Harrington OV/Lee Westwpick @-1.60
Ernie Els OV/Luke Donald pick @-1.60
Good Luck to all. Will be back with Weekend Plays.
1st round 3 balls:
1 04/06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 Campbell/ Appleby/ Funk
(3 Balls) Stuart Appleby
+175 None To Run
04/06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 Pettersson/ Daly/ Bohn
(3 Balls) Carl Pettersson
+150 None To Run
06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 O'Hern/ Herron/ Hensby
(3 Balls) Mark Hensby
+190 None To Run
1 04/06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 Campbell/ Appleby/ Funk
(3 Balls) Stuart Appleby
+175 None To Run
04/06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 Pettersson/ Daly/ Bohn
(3 Balls) Carl Pettersson
+150 None To Run
06/2006 US Masters 2006 R 1 O'Hern/ Herron/ Hensby
(3 Balls) Mark Hensby
+190 None To Run
72 Holes:
Date Event Selections Odds E/W Terms Result
1 04/09/2006 US Masters 2006 - Zach Johnson vs K.J. Choi
(72 Hole Match) Zach Johnson
-110 None To Run
Outrights:
Immelman 150/1 EW
Top Debutant:
Each-way 1/4 1-2-3
Add Henrik Stenson +333 Bet
Add Geoff Ogilvy +400 Bet
Add Arron Oberholser +600 Bet
Add Carl Pettersson +750 Bet
Add Lucas Glover +750 Bet
Add Ben Crane +1000 Bet
Add Bart Bryant +1400 Bet
Add Jason Bohn +1400 Bet
Add Vaughn Taylor +1400 Bet
Add Sean OHair +1800 Bet
Add Thongchai Jaidee +2200 Bet
Add Edoardo Molinari +5000 Bet
Add Kevin Marsh +8000 Bet
Add Clay Ogden +10000 Bet
Add Brian McElhinney +10000 Bet
Add Dillon Dougherty +10000 Bet
Group betting:
Win Only
Add Scott Verplank +300 Bet
Add Lee Westwood +350 Bet
Add Fred Couples +350 Bet
Add Stuart Appleby +350 Bet
Add Rod Pampling +400 Bet
Win Only
Add Darren Clarke +350 Bet
Add Henrik Stenson +350 Bet
Add Angel Cabrera +350 Bet
Add David Howell +350 Bet
Add Chad Campbell +350 Bet
Date Event Selections Odds E/W Terms Result
1 04/09/2006 US Masters 2006 - Zach Johnson vs K.J. Choi
(72 Hole Match) Zach Johnson
-110 None To Run
Outrights:
Immelman 150/1 EW
Top Debutant:
Each-way 1/4 1-2-3
Add Henrik Stenson +333 Bet
Add Geoff Ogilvy +400 Bet
Add Arron Oberholser +600 Bet
Add Carl Pettersson +750 Bet
Add Lucas Glover +750 Bet
Add Ben Crane +1000 Bet
Add Bart Bryant +1400 Bet
Add Jason Bohn +1400 Bet
Add Vaughn Taylor +1400 Bet
Add Sean OHair +1800 Bet
Add Thongchai Jaidee +2200 Bet
Add Edoardo Molinari +5000 Bet
Add Kevin Marsh +8000 Bet
Add Clay Ogden +10000 Bet
Add Brian McElhinney +10000 Bet
Add Dillon Dougherty +10000 Bet
Group betting:
Win Only
Add Scott Verplank +300 Bet
Add Lee Westwood +350 Bet
Add Fred Couples +350 Bet
Add Stuart Appleby +350 Bet
Add Rod Pampling +400 Bet
Win Only
Add Darren Clarke +350 Bet
Add Henrik Stenson +350 Bet
Add Angel Cabrera +350 Bet
Add David Howell +350 Bet
Add Chad Campbell +350 Bet
Masters selections
Masters selections
VJ -110 over Goosen
Ogilvy -115 over Ames
Woods -140 over Mickelson
:SIB.......GL mj'ers
Masters selections
VJ -110 over Goosen
Ogilvy -115 over Ames
Woods -140 over Mickelson
:SIB.......GL mj'ers
Found a prop I like:
Will the winner be a past champion...
Yes -120 1 unit
I get Tiger, Phil and VJ with backup from Weir, Olazabal, Couples and Langer. Admittedly I'm banking on one of the first three to pull through for me. With the course being stretched a little further I'm hoping one of those big hitters will get the job done.
Good luck to all, looking forward to a great tourney.
Will the winner be a past champion...
Yes -120 1 unit
I get Tiger, Phil and VJ with backup from Weir, Olazabal, Couples and Langer. Admittedly I'm banking on one of the first three to pull through for me. With the course being stretched a little further I'm hoping one of those big hitters will get the job done.
Good luck to all, looking forward to a great tourney.
Good morning to all the cappers and golf lovers.
Adding . . .
Outrights:
Retief Goosen(11/1) e.w. @ Sportingbet
- - Until recent weeks, Goosen's ongoing displays of erratic driving had me rating his game as "nothing special happening there" for Augusta, but Ernie Els comment, "He is ripping his driver," confirms my much more recent impressions thereof. In my capping, glassy greens and a long week with plenty of grinding on tap is the right formula for Goosen to thrive and best distinguish himself. The Goose has been prowling in recent weeks but I don't believe he's been on the lead yet; I like the prospects of seeing his name rise to the top of the leaderboard at some point in this week's proceedings, and not watch it drifting its way far back thereafter.
Sergio Garcia(16/1)(Without Big 5)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. @ BetFred
- - My issues with Sergio regarding his efforts at closing out a championship extend beyond his ability to get away to a comfortable start on the greens on Sundays vis-a-vis his peers, and include a propensity for crappy shots - plural - that seem to borrow a page from Greg Norman's book on how to snatch a spot as an also ran from the jaws of victory. To be honest, I expected more from Sergio at the start of this season, and I even put a few dollars on him e.w. to win the PGA money title. Be that as it may, nothing of the sort involving closing out a championship from near the lead needs to even be involved under a fair number of likely scenarios with this wager, and this just looked like the standout price to me every time I reviewed this market.
Matchups and Propositions:
Winning 72 Hole Score Over 279'(-150) @ The Greek
- - Let's see . . .
Olazabal(-135) over Love (Tournament) @ The Greek
- - At the end of this grind, I can't see it any other way.
Ogilvy(-125) over Allenby (Tournament) @ The Greek
- - The lines at The Greek on Ogilvy/Allenby/Pampling are seriously whacked. Anyway . . . I think Sabbatini has lost his edge and he won't be getting it back this week, even with the favorable opportunity of playing a couple of rounds with his fellow countryman, Gary Player. I was a little concerned whether Ogilvy had similarly lost his edge, although in contrast to Sabbatini, not so concerned about Ogilvy's ability to get it back at any moment. Hearing Augusta debutante Ogilvy comment that you feel disappointed after a practice round here because there are no more holes to play is really what allayed my concerns and put me right back in Ogilvy's camp to start this week.
GL
Adding . . .
Outrights:
Retief Goosen(11/1) e.w. @ Sportingbet
- - Until recent weeks, Goosen's ongoing displays of erratic driving had me rating his game as "nothing special happening there" for Augusta, but Ernie Els comment, "He is ripping his driver," confirms my much more recent impressions thereof. In my capping, glassy greens and a long week with plenty of grinding on tap is the right formula for Goosen to thrive and best distinguish himself. The Goose has been prowling in recent weeks but I don't believe he's been on the lead yet; I like the prospects of seeing his name rise to the top of the leaderboard at some point in this week's proceedings, and not watch it drifting its way far back thereafter.
Sergio Garcia(16/1)(Without Big 5)(1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. @ BetFred
- - My issues with Sergio regarding his efforts at closing out a championship extend beyond his ability to get away to a comfortable start on the greens on Sundays vis-a-vis his peers, and include a propensity for crappy shots - plural - that seem to borrow a page from Greg Norman's book on how to snatch a spot as an also ran from the jaws of victory. To be honest, I expected more from Sergio at the start of this season, and I even put a few dollars on him e.w. to win the PGA money title. Be that as it may, nothing of the sort involving closing out a championship from near the lead needs to even be involved under a fair number of likely scenarios with this wager, and this just looked like the standout price to me every time I reviewed this market.
Matchups and Propositions:
Winning 72 Hole Score Over 279'(-150) @ The Greek
- - Let's see . . .
Olazabal(-135) over Love (Tournament) @ The Greek
- - At the end of this grind, I can't see it any other way.
Ogilvy(-125) over Allenby (Tournament) @ The Greek
- - The lines at The Greek on Ogilvy/Allenby/Pampling are seriously whacked. Anyway . . . I think Sabbatini has lost his edge and he won't be getting it back this week, even with the favorable opportunity of playing a couple of rounds with his fellow countryman, Gary Player. I was a little concerned whether Ogilvy had similarly lost his edge, although in contrast to Sabbatini, not so concerned about Ogilvy's ability to get it back at any moment. Hearing Augusta debutante Ogilvy comment that you feel disappointed after a practice round here because there are no more holes to play is really what allayed my concerns and put me right back in Ogilvy's camp to start this week.
GL
Taking a shot here in the first round. Duval clearly isn't his old self, but he usually has one good round in him, and going up against a first timer at Augusta at a decent price too hard to pass up:
Duval +.5 ov Crane +175 1 unit
Duval +.5 ov Crane +175 1 unit
