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To win:

Furyk +5000 (2)

Snedeker +2800 (1)

Snedeker +3300 (1)

Bradley +4000 (1)

Kuchar +4000 (1)

Stenson +6000 (1)

Van Pelt +6000 (1)

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Justin Rose +2500

Jason Dufner +4000
 

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ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP JUSTIN ROSE +2800
ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP BRANDT SNEDEKER +2800
ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP SERGIO GARCIA +3000
ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP JIM FURYK +5000
ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP LEE WESTWOOD +2000
ODDS TO WIN THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP JASON DAY +4000
 

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Bad debut with Jyoti wd'n.

Lets try again.

Furyk -140 over Bubba.

GL Friends.:popcorn2
 

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1st Round Match Ups
D TOMS (RND 1) -135 (D TOMS (RND 1) vrs M WILSON (RND 1))
R HENLEY (RND 1) +105 (H STENSON (RND 1) vrs R HENLEY (RND 1))
R SABBATINI (RND 1) -115 (P HARRINGTON (RND 1) vrs R SABBATINI (RND 1))
L WESTWOOD (RND 1) -135 (L WESTWOOD (RND 1) vrs N WATNEY (RND 1))

4 Round Match Ups
S GARCIA -125 (P MICKELSON vrs S GARCIA)
J FURYK -145 (B WATSON vrs J FURYK)
 

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Brendon de Jonge to win 275-1 5d

I'm tired of losing with 25 and 30 to one shots. If I'm going to lose, I want to lose big.
Here's a guy not many people follow, and less can pronounce his name. A man from Africa, no, not South Africa, real Africa, Rhodesia, as he claims. Known as Zimbabwe, home of the 100 trillion dollar bill.
Brendon is a good player, 34th in points this year so far, and scored a 15th in last years event. He has a weird ability to shoot a really low score almost every tournament, if he does it twice, he will win.
Winner of over 800,000 bucks this year already. That's how much in Zimbabwe money? 800 quintillion bucks. $800,000,000,000,000,000,000.00---now I say, that's golfing.
 

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Last Week (Overall YTD)

Matchups 4-4 -0.42u (+6.38 u)
Outrights/Finishes 1-6 +0.2u (-3.65u)

The Players Championship

Outrights

McDowell 45/1 (.1u)
Van Pelt 50/1 (.1u)
Bradley 60/1 (.1u)
Z. Johnson 90/1 (.1u)
Moore 90/1 (.1u)
Mahan 125/1 (.1u)
Hanson 125/1 (.1u)
Crane 155/1 (.1u)
Gay 445/1 (.05u)


Matchups (1u)

Rose ov McIlroy -125
Donald ov Scott +105
Mickelson ov Scott +145
McDowell ov Snedeker -120
Olesen ov Haas +165
Stanley ov Els -110
 

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playing 2 for Thursday:


fowler +105 vs furyk


bit of a self-fade here - got excited about furyk for a couple of reasons that I later figured were not good reasons
(if that explanation doesn't convince you nothing will :lol: )


dj -120 vs horschel


will billy immediately return to his recent form? I don't think so


as always, gl


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7129 Justin Rose (1st Rnd) -120* vs Phil Mickelson (1st Rnd)
7101 David Toms (1st Rnd) -125* vs Mark Wilson (1st Rnd)
7117 Henrik Stenson (1st Rnd) -130* vs Russell Henley (1st Rnd)

101 Rory McIlroy (Tourn) +140* vs Tiger Woods (Tourn)
 

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ODDS and ENDS:

(A) I AM SO NOT DUE right now . . . I am never reluctant to post any of my plays before an event, although I do get particular about the order in which I post the plays on various forums, and then there are times when I won't post in-running plays because of the vibe it gives me about plays I've already posted. And I really do enjoy including comments and INFORMATION and such with my plays (it's the funnest part), even though that takes time away from my capping. But my real rituals about posting plays are when I'm in a slump, and then I really get in a mind set of posting only the plays, and not offering any cryptic comments or reasons, but at most offering some links or observations in an entirely separate post. But when I'm out of a slump, I often can't keep my yap shut. I AM SO NOT DUE right now.

(B) It's always been a rule of mine that I need a strong reason or belief to pick up a winning marker (one of the few examples which comes to mind was after Boo Weekley chipped in on the last two holes to win his first tournament at Harbour Town, when I was confident his chances were zero/nada/no way the following week, and I was absolutely right). Other than that, the winning marker stays, and now Brett Rumford has sweetly reinforced my notion . . . So now Adam Scott makes his first appearance since Augusta, and I don't really fancy his chances, but with his immaculate game, there is no way I'll be picking up his marker . . . I can't see me not giving him a chance to carry my cash at Merion, either.

(C) Three ANGLES are always my starting point for capping The Players: (1) From my 2006 notes:"Only four players have won more than once on the Stadium Course. Tiger Woods credits the diversity to "the nature of the design." "How Pete (Dye) designed it with the cutoff bunkers and the mounding that it just brings all of us together,? said Woods, who hasn?t earned a top-10 at The Players since his 2001 triumph. ?We're all hitting the balls to the same spots. A lot of times for the longer hitters, it's 3-wood or 2-iron or some kind of utility club off the tees where the shorter guys are hitting drivers, so we're all in the same spot. With that in mind, it becomes a second shot course and see who can hit their irons the best and put themselves in positions where they can make putts.?"; (2) Even when you can find a few golfers that really seem to like the place (Stephen Ames or Ben Crane or Luke Donald as possible examples), the fact is that unlike Augusta or the U.S. Open which have some well-defined specialists, almost everyone has a spotty record at Sawgrass. In addition, it's a venue that definitely favors champions with some experience, including at least one good turn through the championship on their CV. On the other side of the coin, although there are some players who really love Sawgrass (being few and far between), you get the sense there is no shortage of players the venue just does not suit, and their record reflects it . . . I think other cappers have spotted similar trend lines and offered similar takes, and one set of observations I particularly like in 2012 and 2011: "7/10 winners International players,Ball strikers track,Bermuda Greens,course form does not seem that important,whilst being in decent current form does with the places littered with players with Good recent finishes,Winners have had Multiple runs at the course,Power not an issue,Total Accuracy has been a key stat . . . since 2003, the average number of starts for a winner before he broke through at THE PLAYERS was 7.57. (That included two-time champion, Davis Love III -- 1992, 2003 -- whose first triumph came in his seventh appearance.) Lo and behold, Tim Clark supported the theory that experience matters at TPC Sawgrass, as he emerged victorious in what was his eighth start"; and (3) I really don't have much of a problem swerving prices on the top tier of market leaders like Donald and Garcia, and if they get it done, more power to them. (NOTE: I thought that this week the Betfair forum offered an uncharacteristically smart capping discussion, and is worthy of a link: THE PLAYERS. > Betfair Community > Golf .)

(D) The Players championship IMO closely resembles the four majors in some significant attributes when it comes to capping, including my focus and approach of trying to track players for weeks or even months heading in for their chances of peaking at this extra large event. And when play begins, you better know the players will have a long week of grinding in front of them . . . This year I have an exceptionally large short list, and while I feel I've done a decent job of finding names I'm really comfortable dropping, it was a really long list(!) when I started on Sunday morning. . . And in another similarity with the majors, it's a fact I have a far better capping record in the four majors and The Players than I do in the week-in-and-week-out of the regular tours (although the U.S. PGA is the exception in that run of success), quite possibly because of the effort I give, but I think it's based more on a solid catechism of knowing what I like (and don't particularly like) around each of those events.

(E) So my big scores in this championship have been Stephen Ames(150/1) in 2006, which was one of my strongest plays of that season; Adam Scott(33/1) in 2004; and Davis Love(6/1) in-running for Win Only on Friday night in 2003, which at a "whopping" $24.00 is still my largest wager ever on an "outright" play with "long shot" odds (and in my low stakes world, that wager paid off as well as a 33/1 e.w. wager using my normal stakes). . . . But what I most remember right now about my wagers in this event is that David Toms(80/1) was my strongest play all year in 2011, maybe one of my four or six strongest golf plays ever, had been building in my mind for weeks, and after brilliantly building a 3 stroke lead through the 7th hole on Sunday, it got away from him even though he really did very little wrong; then a bit of a repeat the next year when Zach Johnson(80/1) was one of my strongest golf plays in 2012, building in my mind for weeks, as Zach was rising from a disappointing 2011 campaign to establish what I was fairly certain were going to be his credentials for a place on the Ryder Cup team, and I was thankful he holed a long putt on the 72nd hole for a rock solid week at T2 . . . So now we get to 2013, and it's a fact that Lucas Glover is the name I've been tracking for this spot and for this event for even longer than I did Toms or Zach or Ames. However, as I've already noted, this event is like a major when it comes to the contenders having a long week of grinding in front of them, and now that G-Lover has sort of "popped early" two weeks ago, and to my way of thinking probably used up instead of built up his store of emotional capital last week in Charlotte, I just can't say this sets up the way I pictured it over the last two months. With the added development of his being ready to leave the course at the drop of the hat if his wife goes in to labor, I'm just thankful the price has help up pretty well on what I would no longer characterize as anything approaching a Toms-esque play.

(F) In my capping I know I'm still not using twitter like I could or should to mine for valuable nuggets of INFORMATION and ANGLES, and since golfobserver.com faded away, I don't have that library of media coverage just lying there for me to access whenever I make the time to do it. But for the umpteenth time I'll repeat that my richest vein of ANGLES and INFORMATION comes from what I see and hear while watching the television coverage, and from tracking the live scoring consoles for hours and seeing or thinking I'm seeing tell-tale signs, and in that regard my capping for the first four months of this season has been as diligent as any in recent years, and it seems the harder I've worked the luckier I've gotten. Accordingly, even my natural pessimism doesn't lead me to expect a cache of clunker picks this week, but I AM SO NOT DUE right now.

(G) I mentioned it was a long short list this week (I wish I could scan in my sheet and post a link sort of showing "twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one"), so I should probably give mention to some of the names left on the cutting room floor (so far), to-wit, Karlsson, Stanley, Donald, Van Pelt, and Streelman; and Garcia, Haas, O'Hair, Horschel and Zach: and Stricker, Pettersson . . .

TO BE CONTINUED (too long for one post) . . .

GL
 

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OUTRIGHTS:

Jim Furyk(66/1) e.w.
- - I've been tracking the Pennsylvania native for the U.S. Open at Merion, certainly grinding for a chance to match the redemption Payne Stewart achieved at Pinehurst after his Olympic experience. But I'll give the Jacksonville area resident a shot at something else he covets, and have taken the excellent price that comes with it.

Ben Crane(110/1) e.w.
- - Value losers are common place. How about a value winner for a change?

Ian Poulter(70/1) e.w.
- - Many of the reasons to like his chances fit the profile of past winners, and being based in Florida only adds to his appeal.

Tim Clark(66/1) e.w.
- - Prominent on my radar since Hawaii, when Johnny Miller sort of raved about the big year he saw coming based on improvements in his swing. I wish his Masters had been a disappointment rather than a success, but I could be wrong about that.

Graeme McDowell(40/1) e.w.
- - I wish he was still trying to put a signature stamp on his season, but he still ticks boxes.

Adam Scott(18/1) e.w.
- - Not picking up this winning marker.

Lucas Glover(125/1) e.w.
- - I think there was enough substance in my months of tracking this play so it doesn't fall flat, but magic is what I'm after.

Brian Davis(180/1) e.w.
- - The Len Mattiace of my picks, whatever the hell that means

Stewart Cink(125/1) e.w.
- - In a season shaping up as a good one, sort of feels like the right time and the right place for another solid step, maybe it blossoms into a beauty.

Henrik Stenson(66/1) e.w.

- - With Scott, Clark and Stenson on my roster, I sort of concluded the prospects of landing a repeat champion don't seem all that remote to me.

Steve Stricker(50/1) e.w.
- - Despite what I said above about names left on the cutting room floor, this is the first one I added back, as his late odds suddenly strike me as almost stunning vis-a-vis the character of his 2013 campaign to date.

U.S. Open:
Jim Furyk(50/1) e.w.
- - I've been tracking the Pennsylvania native for the U.S. Open at Merion, certainly grinding for a chance to match the redemption Payne Stewart achieved at Pinehurst after his Olympic experience. But I'll give the Jacksonville area resident a shot at something else he covets, and take the excellent price that comes with it.


MATCHUPS:

McDowell(-120) over Snedeker (Tournament)
Walker(-150) over Harrington (Tournament)


GL
 
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Very nice write-ups LIA. Your logic is impeccable. The luck factor, good or bad, does flub shit up, doesn't it?

72 holes

Donald ov er Scott +113
Kuchar over Day -120
Laird over Hanson +125
Stanley over Els +105

Donald beats Scott for all the reasons everyone has already posted. Scott although an exceptional player has never had a Tiger-like killer instinct, so I don't expect him to show up much.

Kuchar is a play until he cools way off.

Laird is based on his style of play and last years performance.

Els is a permanent fade for me whenever I can get plus money.
 

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Round 1 plays (4pts unless stated):

Luke Donald to beat Sergio Garcia +102 @ Pinnacle [available generally]
I'll back Donald at these odds. He is in good form having finished 3rd last time out at Harbour Town, has finished in the top-25 in all his starts on the PGA Tour his year (something that Sergio hasn't done) and started quickly by being inside the top-25 in all those events after rd1 (something that Sergio has achieved in only two of five starts starts on the PGA Tour this year). And with finishes of 4th and 6th in the last two years here, I'd expect Donald to have another good week at Sawgrass.

Dustin Johnson to beat Billy Horschel -110 @ BetVictor [available generally] [2pts]
It would be hard not to notice Horschel's form at the moment - 2nd, 3rd, 9th and 1st in his last four starts - but it must also be remembered that he had recorded just once top-10 finish on the PGA Tour since 2011 until this purple patch of form. It must also be remembered that this is the Players Championship, in which he has never previously played. In fact, he has played in just one Major Championship - the 2006 U.S. Open where he missed the cut. I think that win will be difficult to follow and moreso in an event like this. Johnson has finished 12th, 4th and 13th in his last three starts and has made the cut in three of four attempts here.
 

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Not fading Vijay might be the biggest gambling mistake ive made this year. :shrug:
 

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Round 2 plays (4pts):

Dustin Johnson to beat Billy Horschel -119 @ Pinnacle [available generally]
Johnson wasn't at his best yesterday, but he still beat Horschel who, as expected, struggled on his debut. Down in 123rd place and playing in the windier afternoon conditions, I expect Horschel to be very attacking in this round and that rarely leads to success on this course.

Brendon De Jonge to beat Jeff Overton -110 @ BetVictor [also available @ Stan James]
De Jonge had a poor day on the greens yesterday. He ranked 6th in dirving accuracy and 14th in greens in regulation, but outside the top-100 for putting average and putts per round. He did finish inside the top-15 here last year, so it was not a rookie's inexperience on the greens that caused him problems yesterday. Given his ball-striking, he should be able to bounceback and maintain his h2h dominance over Overton: 16-6-4 in rd2 over the last 12 months.

Fredrik Jacobson to beat Charles Howell -111 @ Bet365
Jacobson is the opposite type of player - he is at his best on or around the green. However, he will still be disappointed to be 68th after day one - he has made four of his last five cuts here including a top-10 finish in 2010 and he has finished in the top-25 in his last seven tournaments. Howell has managed that twice in his last seven tournaments and has a very poor record at Sawgrass: a best-finish of 32nd over a decade ago and he has missed his last five cuts here. It therefore appears strange that they are priced at pick'em.

Fredrik Jacobson to beat Peter Hanson +100 @ 5Dimes
Not sure what to make of Hanson's round yesterday. He had a quadruple-bogey, a double-bogey, an eagle and seven birdies. He finished his round five-under-par for his last five holes to finish at -2 and in 34th place. All I can say is that such a finish to rescue his round tends to leave a player drained of energy on the following day. I'll oppose him with Jacobson who will be playing in the easier morning conditions.

Robert Garrigus to beat Brian Gay -145 @ 5Dimes
Gay is on a poor run of form - he hasn't broken 70 in his last 18 rounds and just once in his last 24 rounds. And it is not just recently, when compared to Garrigus, he has finished ahead of Garrigus just three times in their last 15 common events. A short price, but at least Garrigus was playing in the tougher afternoon conditions yesterday.
 
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