This virus is MORE dangerous then they are telling us

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CDC recommending hospital staff use bandanas when masks run out. Hospitals are asking the public to sew masks. Here is a physician responding:


Please don't tell me that in the richest country in the world in the 21st century, I'm supposed to work in a fictionalized Soviet-era disaster zone and fashion my own face mask out of cloth because other Americans hoard supplies for personal use and so-called leaders sit around in meetings hearing themselves talk. I ran to a bedside the other day to intubate a crashing, likely COVID, patient. Two respiratory therapists and two nurses were already at the bedside. That's 5 N95s masks, 5 gowns, 5 face shields and 10 gloves for one patient at one time. I saw probably 15-20 patients that shift, if we are going to start rationing supplies, what percentage should I wear precautions for?


Make no mistake, the CDC is loosening these guidelines because our country is not prepared. Loosening guidelines increases healthcare workers' risk but the decision is done to allow us to keep working, not to keep us safe. It is done for the public benefit - so I can continue to work no matter the personal cost to me or my family (and my healthcare family). Sending healthcare workers to the front line asking them to cover their face with a bandana is akin to sending a soldier to the front line in a t-shirt and flip flops.


I don't want talk. I don't want assurances. I want action. I want boxes of N95s piling up, donated from the people who hoarded them. I want non-clinical administrators in the hospital lining up in the ER asking if they can stock shelves to make sure that when I need to rush into a room, the drawer of PPE equipment I open isn't empty. I want them showing up in the ER asking "how can I help" instead of offering shallow "plans" conceived by someone who has spent far too long in an ivory tower and not long enough in the trenches. Maybe they should actually step foot in the trenches.


I want billion-dollar companies like 3M halting all production of any product that isn't PPE to focus on PPE manufacturing. I want a company like Amazon, with its logistics mastery (it can drop a package to your door less than 24 hours after ordering it), halting its 2-day delivery of 12 reams of toilet paper to whoever is willing to pay the most in order to help get the available PPE supply distributed fast and efficiently in a manner that gets the necessary materials to my brothers and sisters in arms who need them.


I want Proctor and Gamble, and the makers of other soaps and detergents, stepping up too. We need detergent to clean scrubs, hospital linens and gowns. We need disinfecting wipes to clean desk and computer surfaces. What about plastics manufacturers? Plastic gowns aren't some high-tech device, they are long shirts/smocks...made out of plastic. Get on it. Face shields are just clear plastic. Nitrile gloves? Yeah, they are pretty much just gloves...made from something that isn't apparently Latex. Let's go. Money talks in this country. Executive millionaires, why don't you spend a few bucks to buy back some of these masks from the hoarders, and drop them off at the nearest hospital.


I love biotechnology and research but we need to divert viral culture media for COVID testing and research. We need biotechnology manufacturing ready and able to ramp up if and when treatments or vaccines are developed. Our Botox supply isn't critical, but our antibiotic supply is. We need to be able to make more plastic ET tubes, not more silicon breast implants.


Let's see all that. Then we can all talk about how we played our part in this fight. Netflix and chill is not enough while my family, friends and colleagues are out there fighting. Our country won two world wars because the entire country mobilized. We out-produced and we out-manufactured while our soldiers out-fought the enemy. We need to do that again because make no mistake, we are at war, healthcare workers are your soldiers, and the war has just begun

This is a great write up and understand, he/she is screaming at their Ivory Towers in hospital systems that need to be proactive. The corporations they buy from should be producing at capacity. The hoarders suck, and when they are found out, they should be punished in some way Governors of states see fit or above. One man, one President cannot do it all like you seem to think of our STUPID, Narcissistic President. Yes there are issues, but one person does not cause this Pandemic and our responses to get help for our Doctors and their staffs. It is many many people.
 

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Again New York got all the PPE' s it needs. Forcing companies to make something they're unfamiliar with will not solve the problem.


The company can apparently manufacture 1.5 million masks per week.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/23/hanesbrands-retrofitting-factories-to-make-face-ma.aspx

https://www.fox29.com/news/trump-ha...l-masks-distilleries-producing-hand-sanitizer

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are they helping?....I will research


how many here are in for a penny in for a pound?

I bet these folks can get it done..


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RankNameNet worth (USD)AgeSources of wealth
1Jeff Bezos$114 billion56Amazon
2Bill Gates$106 billion64Microsoft, Cascade Investment
3Warren Buffett$80.8 billion89Berkshire Hathaway
4Mark Zuckerberg$69.6 billion35Facebook
5Larry Ellison$65 billion75Oracle
6Larry Page$55.5 billion46Google
7Sergey Brin$53.5 billion45Google
8Michael Bloomberg$53.4 billion78Bloomberg L.P.
9Steve Ballmer$51.7 billion63Microsoft, LA Clippers
10Jim Walton$51.6 billion70Walmart, inherited
11Alice Walton$51.4 billion69Walmart, inherited
12S. Robson Walton$51.3 billion74Walmart, inherited
13Charles Koch$41 billion83Koch Industries
13Julia Koch$41 billion57Koch Industries, inherited
15MacKenzie Bezos$36.1 billion49Amazon, divorce

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NY got all the PPE's they needed in a week the hardest hit state. They are being manufactured around the clock and sent to states that need them.
How will the DOA help. You just done enact it and product is produced the next day
 

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Here?s why Florida got all the emergency medical supplies it requested while other states did not

https://ctmirror.org/2020/03/20/her...lies-it-requested-while-other-states-did-not/

Other states had only tiny slivers of their requests fulfilled, including some that had asked for them earlier than Florida. Oregon and Oklahoma received only about 10%; New Jersey got less than 6%.

Officials fear that hospitals will be overwhelmed by far more patients than they can safely treat if the current pace of infections continues. This month, officials estimated that if the outbreak lasts a year, the U.S. could need 3.5 billion of the N95 masks that protect health care workers. The national stockpile had only 12 million N95 masks and 30 million surgical masks on hand when the crisis began.

While it may appear like the federal government is playing favorites, federal officials said their decisions were based on their best assessment of relative needs. HHS told states this week that it is giving out 25% of the stockpile to states according to population size, and sending another 25% strategically to states with the most severe outbreaks, which can be used for needs such as testing passengers on cruise ships brought back to shore. The remaining 50% will be held in ?strategic reserve,? to be used if there?s a huge spike of critical needs around the country.


Connecticut?s all-Democratic congressional delegation, led by Sen. Chris Murphy, sent a letter to Health and Human Services officials Thursday insisting Gov. Ned Lamont?s request from the National Strategic Stockpile, a supply of pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out.


To date, Lamont has only received a partial shipment of the medical supplies he has requested from the stockpile.


Connecticut?s lawmakers said the rest of the governor?s request must be filled ?to avoid exacerbating this public health emergency.?


?We ask that you provide 250,000 of each of the following: N95 Respirator Face Masks, surgical masks, surgical gowns, non-sterile gloves, and disposable face shields, and quickly address any supplemental requests for additional items such as swabs, thermometers, or other supplies that may become critical to the state?s response,? the lawmakers wrote.


?Ana Radelat | CTMirror.org


The inability of the United States to deploy widespread testing for the coronavirus has further complicated how the supplies are being apportioned because health officials do not have a complete picture of where the virus is circulating most widely. But many states, worried that their case counts are about to soar and their hospitals will be swamped, have been unsatisfied with their allotment.


The system appears to roughly conform to states? populations, rather than the size of their requests. Florida, a state of 21 million, got all 180,000 N95 masks it wanted. Oregon, a state of 4 million, only received 40,000 of the 400,000 masks it requested, and New Jersey, a state of 9 million, got 85,000 of the 2.9 million masks it feels it needs.


It is hard to assess what constitutes a reasonable request. All states are starting with different stockpiles of supplies. Some have been hit harder than others by the virus, and some anticipate they might be. Each state is trying to secure as much as possible for its health workers, who are raising alarms that they are running out of basic supplies.


This pandemic will require enormous amounts of personal protective equipment, or PPE, for health care workers in part because the symptoms of COVID-19 are not unusual ? it?s hard to quickly distinguish a COVID-19 patient from someone suffering from the flu. Anyone doctors suspect of being infected with the coronavirus needs to be treated with great care, lest the infection spread. Many items, like gloves and some types of masks, are designed to be used once then thrown away, but some hospitals and long-term care facilities are already experimenting with reusing their equipment to stretch their supplies.


?It?s very frustrating and very scary to hear the numbers,? said Kimberly Green-Yates, chief operating officer of Diakonos Group, which runs about 20 skilled nursing and long-term care facilities across Oklahoma. ?The people we take care of are the most vulnerable. Without PPE, we can?t keep them safe.?


Green-Yates said that as soon as her company heard about the deaths in Washington state in a nursing facility, Diakonos ordered a large supply of PPE and locked it away for emergencies. Some of the protective equipment, she said, was used up during this year?s flu season. ?If [the virus] gets in, our supply is going to be gone in days,? she explained. ?Then what do you do? ? We?re working our absolute hardest to keep our elders safe right now. And how are we supposed to do that if we don?t even have equipment??

In a statement to ProPublica, HHS acknowledged that the population-based distribution system means that allocations are ?likely less than what states are currently requesting,? but noted that ?jurisdictions are receiving 100% of their allocations? under the government?s formula. The formula only applies to PPE, and not to ventilators, HHS said.

Florida, which has regular experience with hurricanes, isn?t waiting on the sidelines, despite having received its entire wishlist. On Monday, the state?s Division of Emergency Management made a second request, saying that it was still not sufficiently prepared to handle the looming pandemic; it asked for 2 million N95 masks, 500,000 gloves, 500,000 gowns and 250,000 coveralls. The division also asked for thousands of ventilators and hospital beds, as well five mobile intensive care units.

?The support we have received from the administration is woefully insufficient,? Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., told ProPublica. ?I wouldn?t call it complete radio silence from federal officials, but their communications are barely flickering. ? If our health workers, doctors and nurses especially, don?t have masks, or gloves, or cotton swabs, lives will be lost ? full stop.?

?The support we have received from the administration is woefully insufficient,? Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., told ProPublica. ?I wouldn?t call it complete radio silence from federal officials, but their communications are barely flickering. ? If our health workers, doctors and nurses especially, don?t have masks, or gloves, or cotton swabs, lives will be lost ? full stop.?
 

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In Oregon, a spokesperson for the governor?s office said the state has been told it will receive an additional 15% of its initial order, but that second shipment is yet to arrive. The Oregon Health Authority told its Legislature this week that the state had about 590,000 N95 masks in its stockpile at the start of the outbreak. The supply is down to 421,000. The number of surgical masks has gone from 49,000 to 18,000, and the state has used 83% of the 23,000 gowns it started with.


Nurses say they can?t wait. ?Some of our facilities are reporting that they will be out of PPE within the next 48 hours,? said Lynda Pond, president of the Oregon Nurses Association. She said she?s never heard of a hospital being that close to being out of supplies in her 35-year career. What the state has received so far compared to its needs, she said, is ?a drop in the bucket.?


The government is panic shopping
Now, the federal government is scrambling to replenish the stockpile as it runs out. President Donald Trump has said he may use the Defense Production Act, a law that gives him powers to rapidly expand domestic manufacturing of protective masks and clothing, and automakers are trying to figure out if their production lines can be retooled to make medical equipment.


But ramping up won?t be simple, according to Irwin Redlener, a professor and director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University.


?It?s like panic shopping on the part of government,? Redlener said. ?They?ve gone out to every vendor on the planet and every manufacturer to try to get the stockpile built up. But right now every state in the union and many countries are going to the same limited number of vendors. So it?s a real problem.?


The crucial medical devices needed to keep patients alive will likely also be in short supply, Redlener said. He said he understood that the reserve had at least 70,000 ventilators when he served on an advisory committee in 2016. The current total is fewer than 13,000, the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci has said, with a few thousand more at the Department of Defense. Hospitals, which have switched to a just-in-time inventory system that allows them to save money by keeping less equipment in reserve, have about 160,000 ventilators nationwide. Redlener estimates that twice that number may ultimately be needed.


At the moment, states aren?t receiving much in the way of assurances from the federal government. During a press conference on Thursday, Trump said that while domestic manufacturers of face masks have gone into overdrive and the White House is helping, governors need to work to find supplies themselves.


?The government?s not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping, we?re not a shipping clerk,? Trump said. ?As with testing, the governors are supposed to be doing it.?


Perla Trevizo contributed reporting.


This story was first published March 20, 2020, by ProPublica.
 

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The flu kills 30-50 thousand a season, why is this covid bs an issue? That?s right the god damn media is in bed with the democrats to destroy Trump, this fucking virus is so over blown it?s not even funny
 

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The flu kills 30-50 thousand a season, why is this covid bs an issue? That?s right the god damn media is in bed with the democrats to destroy Trump, this fucking virus is so over blown it?s not even funny


How many Democrats live in China? Spain? Italy?

People get this shit by breathing through their nose. You are so fucking lucky you're a mouth breather.
 

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That?s right the god damn media is in bed with the democrats to destroy Trump.


Yep, you nailed it. All those Democrats around the world infiltrating the British Broadcasting Corporation, The Canadian Press, Reuters, Al-Jazeera, etc, etc. have done a great job getting their message out in order to destroy Trump.

I especially love the fact how the Al-Jazeeran Democrats were successful making up that shit about a couple NBA players testing positive, that was a nice touch.
 

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The numbers could be worse than governments are reporting. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wants to use smartphone data to track whether people are complying with public health officials' pleas for them to stay inside.Canada is slowly moving from a so called "democracy" to a full fledged dictatorship.

Google communist and Trudeau:facepalm:
 
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