Thoughts and Prayers Season is Here

[Revolutionary Intentions]

When someone keeps saying “As a black man “, it makes me think this is just another ghost.

is ghost a term you use for white folks? I’ve heard Casper— my cousin called me Casper in high school—, but I’ve never heard ghost. I think I’ll change my username.

 

[Revolutionary Intentions]

that is such a beautiful bullshit statement. per the first amendment, people had the right to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. right up until they didn't. hell, women had the right to get an abortion in every state in this country. right up until they didn't.

and, as a black man, you are probably aware that people had the right to own other human beings. right up until they didn't. some things are just fucking wrong.

the rights of law-abiding citizens are constantly changing.

So what is your gun plan to save the children? Mine is mandatory sentences for gun crimes, permanent elimination of the right to bear arms for any felon, and anyone convicted of a crime involving a gun. I also like the idea of having an armed guard at all public schools. I know Kamala spole
against that, but I think it’s a great idea and apparently having an armed guard on campus helped save many lives in Georgia the other day.

 

[Revolutionary Intentions]

well, one of us may be fucking dumb. i sure hope it's not me. i'm very sensitive and finding out i'm dumb would be hurtful.

but it must be me. because i can't figure out which part of this is dumb.

yes, RJ, i'd be fine with banning handguns. because i'm not a fucking pussy who jumps at every shadow.

you probably know this, but i'm guessing you don't care for stats that don't support your narrative. but if you have a gun in the house, it's a lot more likely to end up shooting someone you care about than an intruder.

anyway, since we've already banned assault weapons once in this country, that's a good place to start. you're not coming across as particularly intelligent, so i'll type slowly for you....

it's a hell of a lot easier to kill a lot of people quickly with an assault weapon than with a handgun. or a shotgun. or a knife. assault weapons have NO place in society. they are designed for the battlefield.

perhaps you can answer the question that hedgehog certainly won't... how many kids are you ok with being slaughtered before we ban the weapons that are being used to kill them?

i guess i wasn't clear enough, but i'd be fine with banning all guns. i have no use for them. i mean, i have no issue with hunters. so a complete ban on guns might mean i'd eat a little less venison. but it really wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

*sigh* i think i really do need to type slowly to help you understand.

first of all, i don't know where that 85% came from. it's obviously dependent on the time frame. the two sources i looked at listed 78% and 80%. but that's just semantics. however, that data is misleading for several reasons. for one thing, the perpetrators of these mass shootings often carry both assault weapons and a handgun (or multiple handguns). my assumption is that in those cases, they are starting off with the assault weapon. makes sense, right? anyway, and this is where the time frame matters... there was an assault weapons ban in the US from 1984 to 1994. so if those 10 years are included, that obviously skews the data, as the ban was reasonably effective.

and do you really not understand which weapon (assault rifle vs handgun) is more effective at killing multiple people in a short period of time?

the perpetrators of these crimes are sure figuring it out. https://www.thetrace.org/2023/07/mass-shooting-type-of-gun-used-data/

"However, when you look at more recent data, the picture starts to change. In the decade starting in 2010, some 34 percent of incidents involved an assault weapon, while 66 percent didn’t. And if you look at incidents in the last three years, assault weapons rifles have been used in 59 percent of mass shootings."

most of the worst mass shootings involve assault rifles. when's the last time someone killed over 10 people with a handgun?

if i understand you correctly, and i probably don't, since i'm so fucking dumb, this is the heart of your argument. you're saying there's far too much attention being given to assault weapons, when handguns are arguable worse. and, sure, the media pays far more attention to 20 people (especially children!) being slaughtered for no reason whatsoever. i don't have the stats, and maybe i'm way off, but i'd guess murders with handguns are a lot more personal than mass shootings with assault rifles. if you know the person(s) you plan to shoot, you use a handgun. whereas if you just want to kill a bunch of people, you grab an AR-15. i'd argue that someone slaughtering 20 kids is bigger news than Bob shooting his wife and Brother-in-Law. Anyway, like it or not, I understand why the media focuses more on assault weapons. As far as focusing on banning them, as I already said in my fucking dumb post "since we've already banned assault weapons once in this country, that's a good place to start." as much as this country loves guns, we've proven we CAN agree that weapons of war don't belong in civilian hands. do you think there's a chance in hell we're going to ban hand guns? so let's focus on something that's already been done once. more than half of us agree it should be done again.

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again, i'll say that is misleading. if there are 10 school shootings where one kid is killed with a hand gun and one school shooting where 20 kids are killed with an assault rifle, clearly the assault rifle is worse. which weapon is used more often is irrelevant. this is so macabre, but the most relevant stat here is how many kids are killed, not how many shootings there are. and, personally, i don't really want to dig into that.

and, last but not least... if you've been paying attention, you may already know my answer to the last question. obviously the number is zero. (well, the answer is not so obvious to our 2nd amendment-loving friends). ban all handguns. i'm 100% for that. sadly, i don't see it happening any time soon. i think maybe, just MAYBE, there's a chance we can once again ban assault weapons. and that's a good start.

so, RJ, perhaps you have misunderstood the focus on assault weapons as indifference to the huge problem with handguns. i don't think that's the case at all. but i'm just fucking dumb. or a troll.

That was long, and you seem like an angry guy. What’s with calling me a pussy? Maybe try decaf?

I would need a definition of an assault type weapon. I certainly don’t think any weapons of war should be possessed by civilians. Just don’t think there’s a need for it. I’m assuming fully automatic weapons are illegal, if they’re not, they should be. I don’t really like you on account of the constant name-calling and such, but we do have some common ground.

 

[Smitty]

So what is your gun plan to save the children? Mine is mandatory sentences for gun crimes, permanent elimination of the right to bear arms for any felon, and anyone convicted of a crime involving a gun. I also like the idea of having an armed guard at all public schools. I know Kamala spole
against that, but I think it’s a great idea and apparently having an armed guard on campus helped save many lives in Georgia the other day.

my plan? very simple. ban all guns. get rid of 'em. of course that will never happen. at least start with assault weapons and handguns. there's no foolproof solution that will ever protect everyone, but that would sure the hell make mass shootings a lot more difficult.

see, the problem with your plan is that it addresses things AFTER the bang bang. even the armed guard(s)... just the idea of intentionally putting guns in school is insane. for one thing, the guard at parkland didn't do a fucking thing. hell, in uvalde, the school was swarming with cops who didn't do a damn thing for an hour. and eventually one of those armed guards is going to shoot a kid by mistake.

like i said, there's no perfect answer. there's always going to be nut jobs who want to commit these acts. it feels like we're making incremental progress (mostly with the red flag laws) of making it easier to address BEFORE they start shooting. but, ideally, i'd like to PREVENT these shootings. not just limit the damage when they happen.

call me a dreamer.

 

[Smitty]

That was long, and you seem like an angry guy. What’s with calling me a pussy? Maybe try decaf?

I would need a definition of an assault type weapon. I certainly don’t think any weapons of war should be possessed by civilians. Just don’t think there’s a need for it. I’m assuming fully automatic weapons are illegal, if they’re not, they should be. I don’t really like you on account of the constant name-calling and such, but we do have some common ground.

yeah, i get angry when kids are slaughtered. and roughly half of our politicians refuse to do ANYTHING, except send thoughts and prayers. i'm funny like that.

pretty sure i never called you a pussy. feel free to double check. to elaborate a little, i called people who are in zero actual danger but feel the need to carry guns pussies. they are mostly cowardly men who have been led to believe they can protect their families by shooting all the bad guys.

decaf? decaf is for pussies.

i think a fairly standard definition of an assault rifle is any gun from semi-automatic up to machine guns.

then you have bump stocks, which double the rate of fire on a semi-automatic weapon. the supreme court recently ruled they are just fine.

so sorry about the name-calling. but i'm just fucking dumb, remember? oh, and i'm also kickserv's girlfriend. if i was kick, i'd be kinda offended that that was used as an insult. but he's canadian, so nothing offends him. they're a very nice people.

 

[kickserv]

send thoughts and prayers.

so sorry about the name-calling. but i'm just fucking dumb, remember? oh, and i'm also kickserv's girlfriend. if i was kick, i'd be kinda offended that that was used as an insult. but he's canadian, so nothing offends him. they're a very nice people.

You mean "thoughts and prayers" doesn't work?

God and Jesus are assholes, sheesh.


And I am rarely offended, but the rare times I do get offended I just head to my local gun show, pick up a gun and shoot off a couple rounds, after that I feel much better.

 

[Revolutionary Intentions]

my plan? very simple. ban all guns. get rid of 'em. of course that will never happen. at least start with assault weapons and handguns. there's no foolproof solution that will ever protect everyone, but that would sure the hell make mass shootings a lot more difficult.

see, the problem with your plan is that it addresses things AFTER the bang bang. even the armed guard(s)... just the idea of intentionally putting guns in school is insane. for one thing, the guard at parkland didn't do a fucking thing. hell, in uvalde, the school was swarming with cops who didn't do a damn thing for an hour. and eventually one of those armed guards is going to shoot a kid by mistake.

like i said, there's no perfect answer. there's always going to be nut jobs who want to commit these acts. it feels like we're making incremental progress (mostly with the red flag laws) of making it easier to address BEFORE they start shooting. but, ideally, i'd like to PREVENT these shootings. not just limit the damage when they happen.

call me a dreamer.

Yeah, we have no common ground.

 

[Revolutionary Intentions]

yeah, i get angry when kids are slaughtered. and roughly half of our politicians refuse to do ANYTHING, except send thoughts and prayers. i'm funny like that.

pretty sure i never called you a pussy. feel free to double check. to elaborate a little, i called people who are in zero actual danger but feel the need to carry guns pussies. they are mostly cowardly men who have been led to believe they can protect their families by shooting all the bad guys.

decaf? decaf is for pussies.

i think a fairly standard definition of an assault rifle is any gun from semi-automatic up to machine guns.

then you have bump stocks, which double the rate of fire on a semi-automatic weapon. the supreme court recently ruled they are just fine.

so sorry about the name-calling. but i'm just fucking dumb, remember? oh, and i'm also kickserv's girlfriend. if i was kick, i'd be kinda offended that that was used as an insult. but he's canadian, so nothing offends him. they're a very nice people.

Lmao. You’re obviously weirdly angry. I sense no humor in you. Your girlfriend kicksev, on the other hand, mixes in some jocularity. No quite sure what she sees in you.

 

[yyz]

Lmao. You’re obviously weirdly angry. I sense no humor in you. Your girlfriend kicksev, on the other hand, mixes in some jocularity. No quite sure what she sees in you.

Don't you have a hurricane to prepare for?

 

[Smitty]

I sense no humor in you. Your girlfriend kicksev, on the other hand, mixes in some jocularity. No quite sure what she sees in you.

hold up... are kickserv and i a lesbian couple? i'm his girlfriend... he's my girlfriend...

and kick was not joking about the sled-by shootings. it's a very serious matter in canada, eh?

 

[kickserv]

and kick was not joking about the sled-by shootings. it's a very serious matter in canada, eh?

Very serious matter.

 

[Smitty]

Very serious matter.

the seriousest