Thoughts on Powerful Pac10 Football Teams
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Since the inception of the BCS - Every participating conference has participated in The BCS Championship game & won the BCS Championship - The only true National Championship/Trophy. . . .
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Aaahhhemmm. Excuse me . . . . Except one . . . . .
It's true that no Pac 10 teams have won a BCS title game but it's because they haven't been put in one. We'll never know if USC might have been able to beat a great LSU team. Because OU and their 35-7 loss to K State made it.
2 years ago Oregon got similarily screwed. I'm not saying they wouldve beaten Miami but they would've done better than Nebraska...who lost to Colorado... who got ass raped by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. That was the BCS's fault. A couple of those stupid computer polls had Oregon ranked 6 and 7th in the nation and that put Nebraska in the title game.
2 years ago Oregon got similarily screwed. I'm not saying they wouldve beaten Miami but they would've done better than Nebraska...who lost to Colorado... who got ass raped by Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. That was the BCS's fault. A couple of those stupid computer polls had Oregon ranked 6 and 7th in the nation and that put Nebraska in the title game.
mansa_musa
Couldn't have said it better. :lol:
nickawesome
Nice post. There are a few more teams you could add.
How about Arizona St. losing to Ohio St. in the Rose Bowl on a last min. drive? ASU wins ASU wins National Championship!!!!
How about the year FSU was chosen to play in BCS title game and everyone was crying about Miami not being chosen to play with 1 loss. Guess who that one loss was too? WASHINGTON!! Washington finished the season with 1 loss that year but they were never talked about. They beat Miami yet Miami was the team people were crying about not going.
You are right about Oregon getting screwed. They had 1 loss and it was a 49-42 loss to Stanford. Instead, they chose a Nebraska squad who lost their last game of season to CO 62-36!!!!
How about the year UCLA was undefeated and had one game left on their schedule. Their last game against Miami (who currently was no powerhouse and inferior team). Game was suppose to be played earlier in season but re-scheduled due to hurricane. UCLA after beating USC had to travel across the country and lossed a shootout to Miami. If UCLA wins, they are playing in the National Title Game. (I guess this is why SEC/BIG 12 teams schedule patsy OOC teams or never play on the road)
USC last season was clearly the #1 team according to majority of the media and fans across the nation. USC did not not play in the BCS title game. (just another example of the BCS not putting the 2 best teams playing each other, although under current system USC did not deserve to be in the title game)
2 years ago USC arguably was the best team in the nation but had 2 losses (very close losses) due to playing the #1 SOS. (no excuses though but just another example of the BCS not putting the 2 best teams playing each other, although under current system USC did not deserve to be in title game)
In the last 6-8 years, I just named 6 different times a Pac 10 school was either screwed out of playing in the BCS title game or came very very close to playing. Of those 6 times, 5 were different Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!!!! 5/10 teams in the Pac 10 have been very close to playing in the title game within the last 6-8 years. Pretty impressive!!!!!!!
Couldn't have said it better. :lol:
nickawesome
Nice post. There are a few more teams you could add.
How about Arizona St. losing to Ohio St. in the Rose Bowl on a last min. drive? ASU wins ASU wins National Championship!!!!
How about the year FSU was chosen to play in BCS title game and everyone was crying about Miami not being chosen to play with 1 loss. Guess who that one loss was too? WASHINGTON!! Washington finished the season with 1 loss that year but they were never talked about. They beat Miami yet Miami was the team people were crying about not going.
You are right about Oregon getting screwed. They had 1 loss and it was a 49-42 loss to Stanford. Instead, they chose a Nebraska squad who lost their last game of season to CO 62-36!!!!
How about the year UCLA was undefeated and had one game left on their schedule. Their last game against Miami (who currently was no powerhouse and inferior team). Game was suppose to be played earlier in season but re-scheduled due to hurricane. UCLA after beating USC had to travel across the country and lossed a shootout to Miami. If UCLA wins, they are playing in the National Title Game. (I guess this is why SEC/BIG 12 teams schedule patsy OOC teams or never play on the road)
USC last season was clearly the #1 team according to majority of the media and fans across the nation. USC did not not play in the BCS title game. (just another example of the BCS not putting the 2 best teams playing each other, although under current system USC did not deserve to be in the title game)
2 years ago USC arguably was the best team in the nation but had 2 losses (very close losses) due to playing the #1 SOS. (no excuses though but just another example of the BCS not putting the 2 best teams playing each other, although under current system USC did not deserve to be in title game)
In the last 6-8 years, I just named 6 different times a Pac 10 school was either screwed out of playing in the BCS title game or came very very close to playing. Of those 6 times, 5 were different Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!!!! 5/10 teams in the Pac 10 have been very close to playing in the title game within the last 6-8 years. Pretty impressive!!!!!!!
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Scott4USC said:
Scott, go ahead and post how many Big 12 and SEC teams made it to the NC game. Not all the Big 12 and SEC teams that either were "screwed" or almost made it or "came very very close" but post what Big 12 and SEC Teams made it.
This we know, the Pac 10 is at ZERO. Big 12 I can think of about 3 so far.. SEC at least 3.... So spare me your "screwed" or "came very very close" babble. You either made it or you didn't. You didn't.
Close but no cigar doesn't count in college football, Scott. Either you make it or you don't. You all almost beat Cal... in fact last year you came "very very close." Good luck next year. I hope you come very very close to winning a national championship like you came very very close to doing last year.
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Avalanche :nono:
You are a very bitter man. How does it feel to be in the minority not counting USC as National Championions? You are not a very intelligent college football fan if you truly believe that. I will classify you as ignorant.
USC National Champions
SI National Championship Package
I don't understand why you keep putting down the Pac 10 and your only argument is National Championships. That is a bogus argument. The Pac 10 has a different philosophy than the Big 12 and SEC. Pac 10 teams play tough OOC compeition and are not afraid to play on the road. You jokers always say SEC or Big 12 don't have too because our conference schedule is sooo tough. Than explain to me why ZERO SEC or Big 12 teams come up on this list? Why are there 4 pac 10 teams playing the toughest schedules when their conference is supposedly so weak? You people make zero sense and that is why you people have no support behind your opinion. You act like liberals!
Top 5 SOS for Period: 2000-2003
#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Stanford
#4 CAL
#5 Florida St.
4 of top 5 all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!
The highest ranked SEC team was #15 Florida while Pac 10 had 9 teams in the top 15. Let me say that again, 9 pac 10 teams have played tougher SOS than all 12 SEC teams. Big 12 also only had 1 team ranked in the top 15. HOW PATHETIC!!!! 90% of the Pac 10 conference played tougher SOS than the SEC and Big 12. WOW!!!!!!
Period: 2000-2003
Top 5 SOS for Period: 1990-1999
#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Washington
#4 Florida St.
#5 Stanford
4 of top 5 SOS all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!!!
The highest ranked SEC team was #19 Tennessee while Pac 10 had 9 teams in the top 15. Let me say that again, 9 pac 10 teams have played tougher SOS than all 12 SEC teams. Big 12 had ZERO teams ranked in the top 19. HOW PATHETIC!!!! 90% of the Pac 10 conference played tougher SOS than the SEC and Big 12. WOW!!!!!!
Period: 1990-1999
Big 12 and SEC focus solely on winning National Championships. THat is clear as night and day. Fans on the west coast do not enjoy beating div. 2 schools by 40pts. I Have no problem with SEC or Big 12 winning National Championships but I have problem with ignorant people like yourself using that as an argument why those conference are superior.
Avalanche don't try and debate with the big boys if you don't have any ammo. If your whole argument against the Pac 10 is National Championships that is quite pathetic. Try and counter argue what I presented! Tell me how impressed you are with the SEC and Big 12!!!!!!
I always respected the SEC and Big 12 and my argument is both those conferences are not superior to the Pac 10. I have plenty of ammo to fire!!! :bigun: Debating with you or anybody here is tooo easy!
You are a very bitter man. How does it feel to be in the minority not counting USC as National Championions? You are not a very intelligent college football fan if you truly believe that. I will classify you as ignorant.
USC National Champions
SI National Championship Package
I don't understand why you keep putting down the Pac 10 and your only argument is National Championships. That is a bogus argument. The Pac 10 has a different philosophy than the Big 12 and SEC. Pac 10 teams play tough OOC compeition and are not afraid to play on the road. You jokers always say SEC or Big 12 don't have too because our conference schedule is sooo tough. Than explain to me why ZERO SEC or Big 12 teams come up on this list? Why are there 4 pac 10 teams playing the toughest schedules when their conference is supposedly so weak? You people make zero sense and that is why you people have no support behind your opinion. You act like liberals!
Top 5 SOS for Period: 2000-2003
#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Stanford
#4 CAL
#5 Florida St.
4 of top 5 all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!
The highest ranked SEC team was #15 Florida while Pac 10 had 9 teams in the top 15. Let me say that again, 9 pac 10 teams have played tougher SOS than all 12 SEC teams. Big 12 also only had 1 team ranked in the top 15. HOW PATHETIC!!!! 90% of the Pac 10 conference played tougher SOS than the SEC and Big 12. WOW!!!!!!
Period: 2000-2003
Top 5 SOS for Period: 1990-1999
#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Washington
#4 Florida St.
#5 Stanford
4 of top 5 SOS all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!!!
The highest ranked SEC team was #19 Tennessee while Pac 10 had 9 teams in the top 15. Let me say that again, 9 pac 10 teams have played tougher SOS than all 12 SEC teams. Big 12 had ZERO teams ranked in the top 19. HOW PATHETIC!!!! 90% of the Pac 10 conference played tougher SOS than the SEC and Big 12. WOW!!!!!!
Period: 1990-1999
Big 12 and SEC focus solely on winning National Championships. THat is clear as night and day. Fans on the west coast do not enjoy beating div. 2 schools by 40pts. I Have no problem with SEC or Big 12 winning National Championships but I have problem with ignorant people like yourself using that as an argument why those conference are superior.
Avalanche don't try and debate with the big boys if you don't have any ammo. If your whole argument against the Pac 10 is National Championships that is quite pathetic. Try and counter argue what I presented! Tell me how impressed you are with the SEC and Big 12!!!!!!
I always respected the SEC and Big 12 and my argument is both those conferences are not superior to the Pac 10. I have plenty of ammo to fire!!! :bigun: Debating with you or anybody here is tooo easy!
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FACT: The Pac 10 hasn't won an UNDISPUTED NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP since the 1970s.
THAT'S ALL THE AMMO I NEED, THANK YOU.
SEC and Big 12/8 have won at least 4 each. You jokers have ZERO/ZILCH/NADA/NONE/NADIE/NOT ANY.
And tell me Scott, since I apparently "don't make any sense" --- what do you not understand about this argument? How is it bogus?
There hasn't been a SINGLE PAC 10 team good enough to win it all since the 1970s. Pure and simple. Spin away, Scott... post your worthless crap... no one cares.
THAT'S ALL THE AMMO I NEED, THANK YOU.
SEC and Big 12/8 have won at least 4 each. You jokers have ZERO/ZILCH/NADA/NONE/NADIE/NOT ANY.
And tell me Scott, since I apparently "don't make any sense" --- what do you not understand about this argument? How is it bogus?
There hasn't been a SINGLE PAC 10 team good enough to win it all since the 1970s. Pure and simple. Spin away, Scott... post your worthless crap... no one cares.
Avalanche
USC 1972
National Championships since 1970
Big 12: 11
SEC: 9
Pac 10: 5
So what is your point? National Championships do not reflect strength of conferences. If I remember correctly, Big 12 and SEC each have 12 teams in their conference and Pac 10 has 10 teams. Right? Not just 1 team. The other 11 teams don't count in those NC years? I don't know how anybody can determine how tough a conference is by just one team. But then you say......
But YOU fail to explain why that is all the ammo YOU need. How does that judge the strength of conferences?
I have repeatedly explained why Big 12 and SEC teams have won more National Championships than the Pac 10. It is very very easy to understand. That is not to take anything away from those championships, as thery were very solid teams. It is just too difficult for a Pac 10 team to win a NC with the Pac 10 philosophy. I have put it all out there for you to see and understand. I cannot help it if you have a poor reading comprehension.
USC 1972
National Championships since 1970
Big 12: 11
SEC: 9
Pac 10: 5
So what is your point? National Championships do not reflect strength of conferences. If I remember correctly, Big 12 and SEC each have 12 teams in their conference and Pac 10 has 10 teams. Right? Not just 1 team. The other 11 teams don't count in those NC years? I don't know how anybody can determine how tough a conference is by just one team.
But then you say......But YOU fail to explain why that is all the ammo YOU need.
How does that judge the strength of conferences? I have repeatedly explained why Big 12 and SEC teams have won more National Championships than the Pac 10. It is very very easy to understand. That is not to take anything away from those championships, as thery were very solid teams. It is just too difficult for a Pac 10 team to win a NC with the Pac 10 philosophy. I have put it all out there for you to see and understand. I cannot help it if you have a poor reading comprehension.
You are a joke.
Your Pac 10 girls football conference is a joke.
Your arguments are jokes.
You are so biased it is a joke.
You dont think having teams in your conference that are good enough to win it all make your conference better and tougher? If you dont think so, that's got to be a JOKE.
To me, your Pac 10 "philosophy" is to play tougher OOC games to make up for the meek, weak, lame, easy Pac 10 conference gauntlet.
Basically, the Big 12 and SEC have the reverse philosophy. They schedule only 1 or 2 tough OOC games because they have the whole conference schedule to get through, considerably tougher than the Pac 10 slate.
You are a broken record. Yet you are the moron that posts all this worthless crap. You do it over and over and over. Do you think if the SEC and Big 12 were being left out of the BCS title game year after year they'd change their OOC schedule???? Yes!
Your Pac 10 girls football conference is a joke.
Your arguments are jokes.
You are so biased it is a joke.
You dont think having teams in your conference that are good enough to win it all make your conference better and tougher? If you dont think so, that's got to be a JOKE.
To me, your Pac 10 "philosophy" is to play tougher OOC games to make up for the meek, weak, lame, easy Pac 10 conference gauntlet.
Basically, the Big 12 and SEC have the reverse philosophy. They schedule only 1 or 2 tough OOC games because they have the whole conference schedule to get through, considerably tougher than the Pac 10 slate.
You are a broken record. Yet you are the moron that posts all this worthless crap. You do it over and over and over. Do you think if the SEC and Big 12 were being left out of the BCS title game year after year they'd change their OOC schedule???? Yes!
nickawesome said:
I agree with this post. I actually believe Oregon had a good chance at beating Miami.
great points avalanche
scott has got to be the dumbest person i have ever met on this site. how in anybodies right mind say that winning only a handful of championships makes your conference the toughest and the best.
scott has got to be the dumbest person i have ever met on this site. how in anybodies right mind say that winning only a handful of championships makes your conference the toughest and the best.
Kdogg & Avalanche
If you read Scott's post correctly, you should see that 90% of the Pac-10 has played tougher competition than the SEC & Big 12 for at least the last 13 years. To me, playing tougher competition makes you tougher & better. As a matter of fact, I was told as a youngster, that's the only way!!! to make yourself!!! tougher!!! & better!!!
There is no possible way the Pac 10 could have 9 teams in the top 15 SOS nationally for 13 years by playing only OOC games. The majority of that SOS has to come from conference games.
If the SEC and Big 12 were so tough, wouldnt that show over a 13 yr period? The majority of their games were conference games too! I guess those trips to Tuscaloosa, Ames, Gainesville, Lawrence, Athens, Manhattan & Columbia aren't as difficult as you make them out to be!
How can anybody in their right mind say that LSU's win over Oklahoma in the BCS title game makes Vandy or S Carolina tougher or better? How can anybody in their right mind say that Oklahoma playing in the BCS title game v LSU makes them tougher or better than USC? or Michigan??? In my opinion, until there is a playoff, there is no national champion! Right now, the national championship is won in the minds of computer programmers, sportswriters, coaches assts & BCS bowl sponsors (at a super secret conference held annually at Disneyland!!!!) Not on the field!
Could you imagine two teams being voted to play for the championship of college basketball? or college baseball? or college hockey? I, personally, cant accept a championship decided by a poll. Whether it's the BCS, the AP, Madjack's or Gumby's dammit!
If you guys want to believe in the BCS, & the Boogieman, & the Easter Bunny & the Loch Ness monster? I cant stop you! Knock yourselves out!
If you read Scott's post correctly, you should see that 90% of the Pac-10 has played tougher competition than the SEC & Big 12 for at least the last 13 years. To me, playing tougher competition makes you tougher & better. As a matter of fact, I was told as a youngster, that's the only way!!! to make yourself!!! tougher!!! & better!!!
There is no possible way the Pac 10 could have 9 teams in the top 15 SOS nationally for 13 years by playing only OOC games. The majority of that SOS has to come from conference games.
If the SEC and Big 12 were so tough, wouldnt that show over a 13 yr period? The majority of their games were conference games too! I guess those trips to Tuscaloosa, Ames, Gainesville, Lawrence, Athens, Manhattan & Columbia aren't as difficult as you make them out to be!
How can anybody in their right mind say that LSU's win over Oklahoma in the BCS title game makes Vandy or S Carolina tougher or better? How can anybody in their right mind say that Oklahoma playing in the BCS title game v LSU makes them tougher or better than USC? or Michigan??? In my opinion, until there is a playoff, there is no national champion! Right now, the national championship is won in the minds of computer programmers, sportswriters, coaches assts & BCS bowl sponsors (at a super secret conference held annually at Disneyland!!!!) Not on the field!
Could you imagine two teams being voted to play for the championship of college basketball? or college baseball? or college hockey? I, personally, cant accept a championship decided by a poll. Whether it's the BCS, the AP, Madjack's or Gumby's dammit!
If you guys want to believe in the BCS, & the Boogieman, & the Easter Bunny & the Loch Ness monster? I cant stop you! Knock yourselves out!
the thing i dont get, if it makes you so tough, how come you can't go out and win a national championship than??? It sounds to me all you Pac 10 lovers is need a excuse why they suck. You can cry me a river on SOS or how the teams are so good in the Pac 10 they just beat each other up, give me a break. All the writers in this country and the coaches know, that the Pac 10 is a weak conference. What USC did these last couple of years was great for the conference and hopefully it continue to bring other schools around, but in the end all that matters to the people is who is #1, not who has the best conference. Only the strong survive in this world of college football and obviously USC is up to the task,but the other teams in that conference i have yet to see anything yet to convince me that.
mansa_musa nice post!
Kdogg21 :nooo: :nooo: :nooo: :nooo:
#1 How can you say I am the dumbest person on this site when I share my opinion and give solid analysis supporting it. My support is usually objective, something you have little choice but to accept. Yet you call me the dumbest person on this site. Interesting. I could never call anybody "dumb" who presents their opinion along with solid reasons supporting it. I may disagree, but I would not call that person dumb. You def. show a lack of intelligence and maturity with your remarks. :nono:
#2 If I am the dumbest person on this site, why do you fail to counter argue my arguments and support? Why don't you share your opinion and give solid info supporting it. Instead you took the high road and simply called me the dumbest person on this site. :shrug:
#3 I do not think National Championships reflect how strong a conference is. National Championships = 1 team and conferences= 10-12 teams. I believe you can use NC's to support your claim on superior conferences but it holds very little weight. Maybe if there was a playoff system, then NC's would carry more weight. As I have proven above, the Pac 10 teams play stiffer compeition compared to any other conference in the nation. To win a college National Championship, you basically need to win every game on your schedule. It is very tough to go undefeated in OOC play the way Pac 10 schedules and even tougher in Pac 10 play.
If there was a playoff system in college football, there is no doubt in my mind National Championships would be spread out more evenly.
Big 12 and SEC have had "many" teams go undefeated in conference play and we all know these conferences play weak OOC competition. If Big 12 and SEC conference are so great, how come it is so easy to go undefeated in conference play? How come Big 12 and SEC teams don't even rank in the top 15 in terms of SOS? That plays a huge part why those 2 conferences have won so many NC's because they get teams to the NC game so often. That is their formula for success and the Pac 10 uses a different formula.
Very hard to compare conferences when both have different philosophies. Much easier to compare Big 12 and SEC vs Pac 10. Especially if you want to use National Championships as your "only" argument. :lol2
#4 I never said the Pac 10 was the best. My arguments support my claim that the Big 12 and SEC are not superior. I am a fan of the SEC and Big 12 (despite their different philosophies) but no way do I think those 2 conferences are superior to the Pac 10. Nobody here on madjacks can offer any support against my claim.
In conclusion, how do you have the nerve to call me the dumbest person on this site for quoting me on a statement I never made or implied? So what does this make you? Intelligent?
Kdogg21 :nooo: :nooo: :nooo: :nooo:
#1 How can you say I am the dumbest person on this site when I share my opinion and give solid analysis supporting it. My support is usually objective, something you have little choice but to accept. Yet you call me the dumbest person on this site. Interesting. I could never call anybody "dumb" who presents their opinion along with solid reasons supporting it. I may disagree, but I would not call that person dumb. You def. show a lack of intelligence and maturity with your remarks. :nono:
#2 If I am the dumbest person on this site, why do you fail to counter argue my arguments and support? Why don't you share your opinion and give solid info supporting it. Instead you took the high road and simply called me the dumbest person on this site. :shrug:
#3 I do not think National Championships reflect how strong a conference is. National Championships = 1 team and conferences= 10-12 teams. I believe you can use NC's to support your claim on superior conferences but it holds very little weight. Maybe if there was a playoff system, then NC's would carry more weight. As I have proven above, the Pac 10 teams play stiffer compeition compared to any other conference in the nation. To win a college National Championship, you basically need to win every game on your schedule. It is very tough to go undefeated in OOC play the way Pac 10 schedules and even tougher in Pac 10 play.
If there was a playoff system in college football, there is no doubt in my mind National Championships would be spread out more evenly.
Big 12 and SEC have had "many" teams go undefeated in conference play and we all know these conferences play weak OOC competition. If Big 12 and SEC conference are so great, how come it is so easy to go undefeated in conference play? How come Big 12 and SEC teams don't even rank in the top 15 in terms of SOS? That plays a huge part why those 2 conferences have won so many NC's because they get teams to the NC game so often. That is their formula for success and the Pac 10 uses a different formula.
Very hard to compare conferences when both have different philosophies. Much easier to compare Big 12 and SEC vs Pac 10. Especially if you want to use National Championships as your "only" argument. :lol2
#4 I never said the Pac 10 was the best. My arguments support my claim that the Big 12 and SEC are not superior. I am a fan of the SEC and Big 12 (despite their different philosophies) but no way do I think those 2 conferences are superior to the Pac 10. Nobody here on madjacks can offer any support against my claim.
In conclusion, how do you have the nerve to call me the dumbest person on this site for quoting me on a statement I never made or implied? So what does this make you? Intelligent?
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]nickawesome said:
You do not get PUT into THE National Championship game. YOU EARN YOUR WAY IN! By the rules put forth BEFORE the start of the season this is the way that WE ALL determine who goes to THE National Championship game. It may not be fair, it may not be right, it may not be a playoff, but guess what. . . that's what we have, and THAT'S the system we all use to determine THE National Champion. "If if's and but's were candies and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas". - originally quoted by trump tight's dad.
Until we get a playoff system, we are stuck with the system at hand. Mansa Mansa said what a lot of people think - that until we get this, there is NO true national champion. Maybe. But right now, this is what we have, and that's what makes talking about College Football so fun. . . and so agravating. We can talk all night 'till we're blue in the face defending our conferences, and calling other conferences weaker than the other. It's not going to change our collective minds. At least I know that it's not going to change mine, Scott's, or Avalanches. That's ok though. I think that both of you guys have made good arguments for your respective conferences and the SEC. (contrary to Scott's opinion.)
Bottom line is: We look at who's #1. That is what counts. (Contrary to what your dad told you - it's not how you play the game - Unfortunately.) Our society is obsessed with the best, and being the best, and determining the best. They want to put someone at the top of that mountain, and then take pictures, write about, humiliate, and degredate them when they fall from that lofty status that we put them on. Oh, and don't win too much, because we don't want you to be too successful.
trump tight
I agree the rules are the rules and that is why I never complained about USC not being in the championship game. BCS is what it is. I think they took out computer polls and now have a committee to decide BCS title game. The problem is the BCS was designed to put the top 2 teams against each other and unfortunately the BCS has failed many times to do so according to the vast majority. I think having a committee is a step in the right direction.
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Thanks for saying I made good arguments and mansa has too (Unless you were excluding me and talking about mansa) I am holding you accountable trump tight on this statement. Please enlighten me to why you "think" Avalanche has made good arguments about the SEC? Only argument he has made defending the SEC is National Championships. He fails to counter argue my arguments but mansa and I have shown the flaw in his. I would appreciate it if you could explain further and maybe you should participate and throw out your opinion as well. You seem pretty knowledgeable about college football.
Blackman you should participate as well. I enjoy reading your posts.
How about others opinions as well. This thread has 283 views so there are a ton of people reading it but not throwing out their opinions. Feel free to chime in!!!!!
I agree the rules are the rules and that is why I never complained about USC not being in the championship game. BCS is what it is. I think they took out computer polls and now have a committee to decide BCS title game. The problem is the BCS was designed to put the top 2 teams against each other and unfortunately the BCS has failed many times to do so according to the vast majority. I think having a committee is a step in the right direction.
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Thanks for saying I made good arguments and mansa has too (Unless you were excluding me and talking about mansa) I am holding you accountable trump tight on this statement. Please enlighten me to why you "think" Avalanche has made good arguments about the SEC? Only argument he has made defending the SEC is National Championships. He fails to counter argue my arguments but mansa and I have shown the flaw in his. I would appreciate it if you could explain further and maybe you should participate and throw out your opinion as well. You seem pretty knowledgeable about college football.
Blackman you should participate as well. I enjoy reading your posts.
How about others opinions as well. This thread has 283 views so there are a ton of people reading it but not throwing out their opinions. Feel free to chime in!!!!!
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