can someone tell me where I can get results for 1998 and 2000 from for this event? I am looking for full result...I cannot find on pgatour site...thanks in advance..
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Steved You can go to Stan's site http://www.tour-tips.com/
to mens data base at bottom left margin and type in tourney or go to http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golfonline/golfstats/
I much prefer Stan's as it is much faster and no pop-ups
to mens data base at bottom left margin and type in tourney or go to http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golfonline/golfstats/
I much prefer Stan's as it is much faster and no pop-ups
thanks, did not think of Stanley's site for tournament results...perhaps with only 30 runners, and all of them winners...there will not be any first timers this week...unless one of them managed to get in top 30 without winning, this year, or ever...
Cannot desert David Toms (16/1 Stan James) on current form. Moral victor last week!!!
The Stan James 11/1 without Tiger is bigger than the 10/1 Skybet with Tiger included and he is only 12/1 at Hills and Coral.
It's a stonking 509/1 Sporting Odds double Romero 33/1 Toms 14/1..... fill your boots!!
The Stan James 11/1 without Tiger is bigger than the 10/1 Skybet with Tiger included and he is only 12/1 at Hills and Coral.
It's a stonking 509/1 Sporting Odds double Romero 33/1 Toms 14/1..... fill your boots!!
1 ew Allenby 40/1 (Sportingbet)
16th here in 2000...4th last time out in Buick Open...after what must seem like horrible year for him (he did not win 2 PGA events like he has done for previous 2 years)...due a change of luck..or is he working hard to get in Padraig's team? I hope not, and worth a go at this price...
BM, backing favourite doubles again? gone for very small ew double Fulke (80/1) and Allenby (40/1) with Sportingbet...
16th here in 2000...4th last time out in Buick Open...after what must seem like horrible year for him (he did not win 2 PGA events like he has done for previous 2 years)...due a change of luck..or is he working hard to get in Padraig's team? I hope not, and worth a go at this price...
BM, backing favourite doubles again? gone for very small ew double Fulke (80/1) and Allenby (40/1) with Sportingbet...
I been looking forward to this week to oppose Tiger. I hate to be redundant but he just does not have as big as advantage on these par 70/71. All tour champ have been played on par 71 where he is 1 for 6. It is not coincidence he has rarely plays these courses unless it is major or NEC where purse is a million. The only exception is the Byron Nelson which he plays every year out of respect for the old man(he's 1 for 7 in it) Has 1 win in 5 events this year on 70/71(US Open). Only course on this nature he seems to fair well at is Firestone where he is 3 for 4.
Will be curious to see what they offer.
Will be curious to see what they offer.
Steved,
Doubles....??? Where's your backbone???
I'm trebling this week.... Toms/Romero/Smith... in various bets including a 13,922/1 treble with the soon to be cash light William Hill
Doubles....??? Where's your backbone???
I'm trebling this week.... Toms/Romero/Smith... in various bets including a 13,922/1 treble with the soon to be cash light William Hill
I'm not a lover of 72 hole match bets but will have a dabble this week.
Justin Leonard looks worth opposing on recent form.... only 41st when he travelled to Japan last week, 31st at Vegas and a missed cut in his favoured Texas Open.
Plenty of choices but will try Furyk against him... with 4 x top 10's in his last 7 and a decent Tour Championship record including a 3rd here in 1998. 10/11 Blue Square
Blue Square also offer 10/11 Chris Smith against Skip Kendall. Smith chances are well documented in the other thread and although Kendall was runner up here in 2000 his recent form is dire with 7 missed cuts in his last 10 and finishes of 33, 36 & 78
Justin Leonard looks worth opposing on recent form.... only 41st when he travelled to Japan last week, 31st at Vegas and a missed cut in his favoured Texas Open.
Plenty of choices but will try Furyk against him... with 4 x top 10's in his last 7 and a decent Tour Championship record including a 3rd here in 1998. 10/11 Blue Square
Blue Square also offer 10/11 Chris Smith against Skip Kendall. Smith chances are well documented in the other thread and although Kendall was runner up here in 2000 his recent form is dire with 7 missed cuts in his last 10 and finishes of 33, 36 & 78
Outright plays (1 unit):
Tiger Woods to win 2/1 @ WSEX
There are only two par-fives on this course and the argument is that it should not favour Tiger. But with Mickelson and Tiger 1-2 the last time this course was used, it can hardly be described as a course that favoured accuracy off the tee. They ranked 1-2 in driving distance in the 2000 event and both were in the top-4 in greens in regulation. Woods was top-4 in scoring on the par-3s and the par-4s in 2000. His game is more than just about par-fives. That said, even though 2/1 is an attractive price for the world's best player in such a small field, it is not a double-play. It is at the very least a safety play because the other two selections do not have a good record of winning events when Tiger is in the field.
David Toms to win 16/1 e.w. @ Tote or Stan James
This is Toms' last chance to secure a win in the 2002 season. He has become an extremely consistent player and is currently on a run of five consecutive top-15 finishes and would have surely won last week but for an unbelievable burst of low-scoring by Jonathan Byrd. Will be wanting to atone for losing the tournament last year when he three-putted the penultimate and hopefully a return to Atlanta, the scene of his 2001 PGA Championship, will bring a return of his winning ways.
Nick Price to win 50/1 e.w. @ William Hill or SportsInterAction
Big price for a player who has become as consistent as Toms, but looked much less likely to win even though he has on PGA Tour victory this season. In all competitions since his opening event this year, he has finished outside the top-20 on just three occasions. With a 3rd place finish in 2000 on a course that doesn't penalise his lack of length, he looks a big price at 50/1 or rather 12.5/1 to gain a top-4 finish.
Tiger Woods to win 2/1 @ WSEX
There are only two par-fives on this course and the argument is that it should not favour Tiger. But with Mickelson and Tiger 1-2 the last time this course was used, it can hardly be described as a course that favoured accuracy off the tee. They ranked 1-2 in driving distance in the 2000 event and both were in the top-4 in greens in regulation. Woods was top-4 in scoring on the par-3s and the par-4s in 2000. His game is more than just about par-fives. That said, even though 2/1 is an attractive price for the world's best player in such a small field, it is not a double-play. It is at the very least a safety play because the other two selections do not have a good record of winning events when Tiger is in the field.
David Toms to win 16/1 e.w. @ Tote or Stan James
This is Toms' last chance to secure a win in the 2002 season. He has become an extremely consistent player and is currently on a run of five consecutive top-15 finishes and would have surely won last week but for an unbelievable burst of low-scoring by Jonathan Byrd. Will be wanting to atone for losing the tournament last year when he three-putted the penultimate and hopefully a return to Atlanta, the scene of his 2001 PGA Championship, will bring a return of his winning ways.
Nick Price to win 50/1 e.w. @ William Hill or SportsInterAction
Big price for a player who has become as consistent as Toms, but looked much less likely to win even though he has on PGA Tour victory this season. In all competitions since his opening event this year, he has finished outside the top-20 on just three occasions. With a 3rd place finish in 2000 on a course that doesn't penalise his lack of length, he looks a big price at 50/1 or rather 12.5/1 to gain a top-4 finish.
Singh 20/1 Centrebet. Excellent course form and is in fine form if we disregard last week.
Allenby 44/1 Unibet. 4th last week and looks slightly overpriced.
Allenby 44/1 Unibet. 4th last week and looks slightly overpriced.
Outright to place (top 4) @ Oly 1/2 unit
Furyk 8/1
Played in 4 of last 5 with finishes of 2--3-15-7. Ranks 3rd in scoring ave of this field in this event for past 5 years (1st if you count players playing more than just once) so will use him as lone place wager for this event.
Furyk 8/1
Played in 4 of last 5 with finishes of 2--3-15-7. Ranks 3rd in scoring ave of this field in this event for past 5 years (1st if you count players playing more than just once) so will use him as lone place wager for this event.
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Singh -110 over Love @ Sportingbet or SIA (ties lose)
Toms -110 over Singh
Love is key on these 2 wagers.He has to beat both Toms and Singh to avoid at worst a split. While he is capable of beating anyone he is equally capable of losing to anyone. Both Toms & Singh have each doubled his top ten finishes--and then there is always "the neck"
5dimes not up yet on matches and unless they come up with something different than whats out there now this will be it for 72 holes.
Singh -110 over Love @ Sportingbet or SIA (ties lose)
Toms -110 over Singh
Love is key on these 2 wagers.He has to beat both Toms and Singh to avoid at worst a split. While he is capable of beating anyone he is equally capable of losing to anyone. Both Toms & Singh have each doubled his top ten finishes--and then there is always "the neck"
5dimes not up yet on matches and unless they come up with something different than whats out there now this will be it for 72 holes.
Beem, R - Mediate, R 2 1.80 4/10 unibet
Furyk, J - Estes, B 1 1.80 6/10 unibet
V Singh - Leonard, J 1 1.80 3/10 unibet
Price Nick - Estes B 1 1.80 5/10 expekt
Furyk, J - Estes, B 1 1.80 6/10 unibet
V Singh - Leonard, J 1 1.80 3/10 unibet
Price Nick - Estes B 1 1.80 5/10 expekt
I twisted my arm to force a few plays.
David Toms(14/1) for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365
I suppose I wish the course was playing faster, but I?d give him a solid shot anywhere this week.
Carlos Franco(30/1) for 0.25* @ 5dimes
Looks like a decent place and time to let the streaky Franco carry my cash.
Justin Rose(20/1) for 0.20* e.w. @ 5dimes
Game enough and game enough for a sterling finish. I overcame my initial coolness over a Cabrera/Rocca pairing and can see it working. He can stripe it around here as well as he did at Sahalee and Muirfield, but a nice little run of birdies is a big key to getting untracked.
Sluman(-110) over Riley (72 holes) for 1*
And a tad at 40/1 e.w. I guess I?m looking for Slu to finish off a fine campaign in style.
GL
David Toms(14/1) for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365
I suppose I wish the course was playing faster, but I?d give him a solid shot anywhere this week.
Carlos Franco(30/1) for 0.25* @ 5dimes
Looks like a decent place and time to let the streaky Franco carry my cash.
Justin Rose(20/1) for 0.20* e.w. @ 5dimes
Game enough and game enough for a sterling finish. I overcame my initial coolness over a Cabrera/Rocca pairing and can see it working. He can stripe it around here as well as he did at Sahalee and Muirfield, but a nice little run of birdies is a big key to getting untracked.
Sluman(-110) over Riley (72 holes) for 1*
And a tad at 40/1 e.w. I guess I?m looking for Slu to finish off a fine campaign in style.
GL
Yes Stan and thanks I was referring to pairings in Tour Champ on Friday but like a dummy put it in wrong thread. I was wondering cause I was going to take shot at Tiger with Mick in one of 1st 2 rds but not if their paired together. No secret that no love lost between the two and no doubt who uses better judgement in adverse conditions. Drat!
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Was interesting to see head to head on 72 holes this year between Tiger and Mick(1-9) and Singh(2-10) on Stans site.
Here is 2002 tab on wagers opposing Woods on 70/71 courses however all were for 1rd not 72 holes
Buick Open Mick/Woods +170 loss
NEC Singh/Woods +190 push
AMEX Harrington/Woods +190 loss
Pebble Beach Singh/Woods +170 win
Genuity Singh/Tiger +130 win
Byron Nelson Garcia/Tiger +150 win
andMick/Tiger +135 win
US OPEN Singh/Woods +160 loss
4-3-1 +2.85
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Was interesting to see head to head on 72 holes this year between Tiger and Mick(1-9) and Singh(2-10) on Stans site.
Here is 2002 tab on wagers opposing Woods on 70/71 courses however all were for 1rd not 72 holes
Buick Open Mick/Woods +170 loss
NEC Singh/Woods +190 push
AMEX Harrington/Woods +190 loss
Pebble Beach Singh/Woods +170 win
Genuity Singh/Tiger +130 win
Byron Nelson Garcia/Tiger +150 win
andMick/Tiger +135 win
US OPEN Singh/Woods +160 loss
4-3-1 +2.85
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72 holes
Mediate -120 over Beem @ $plays (scalps everywhere)
Toms -110 over Garcia @ Oly
1st rd
Perry -110 over Estes @ Cascade
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Mediate -120 over Beem @ $plays (scalps everywhere)
Toms -110 over Garcia @ Oly
1st rd
Perry -110 over Estes @ Cascade
adding one final 72 hole @ Oly
Goose -110 over Price
Price may not like cool conditions coming from South Africa
2001 events with this type of weather were luke warm and this year only played one event with similiar conditions(Phoenix Open)
which till his recent cut was his worst event this year finishing 68th. Goose should feel at home.
Goose -110 over Price
Price may not like cool conditions coming from South Africa
2001 events with this type of weather were luke warm and this year only played one event with similiar conditions(Phoenix Open)
which till his recent cut was his worst event this year finishing 68th. Goose should feel at home.