Brainiac, it could be an issue. Guys get to the point where they just can't cut anymore weight. Look at what happened to Lutter, he said he knew he was in trouble when there was absolutely no more sweat coming out of him. I don't think it's a big deal, but that extra time is being used for cutting and not putting liquids back in his body.
UFC 103: "Franklin vs. Belfort", Sept. 19th, Dallas, TX
- Thread starter kickserv
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Brainiac, it could be an issue. Guys get to the point where they just can't cut anymore weight. Look at what happened to Lutter, he said he knew he was in trouble when there was absolutely no more sweat coming out of him. I don't think it's a big deal, but that extra time is being used for cutting and not putting liquids back in his body.
Boy what nut would take Koscheck at over a 4 to 1 fav against an experienced guy when Kos has that suspect chin?
adding...........
MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 28-30
Fighter vs. Fighter 152-245
Parlays 71-94
+15.02 Joe Rogans
Junior Dos Santos beat Mirko Filipovic $2.00 (+100) 4 Joe Rogans :scared :scared :scared
Cole Miller beat Efrain Escudero $2.40 (+140) *1.5 Joe Rogans
Rich Franklin beat Vitor Belfort $1.77 (-130) *1 Joe Rogan
Frank Trigg beat Josh Koscheck $4.55 (+355) *1 Joe Rogan
Drew McFedries beat Tomasz Drwal $2.00 (+100) *1 Joe Rogan
Eliot Marshall beat Jason Brilz $2.25 (+125) *1 Joe Rogan
Nick Lentz beat Rafaello Oliveira $3.40 (+240) *1 Joe Rogan
Parlay #1
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Jim Miller
Martin Kampmann
Junior Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Rick Story
odds = $8.36 (+776) *half Joe Rogan
Parlay #2
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Jim Miller
Martin Kampmann
Junior Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Rick Story
Cole Miller
odds = $20.07 (+1907) *half Joe Rogan
MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 28-30
Fighter vs. Fighter 152-245
Parlays 71-94
+15.02 Joe Rogans
Junior Dos Santos beat Mirko Filipovic $2.00 (+100) 4 Joe Rogans :scared :scared :scared
Cole Miller beat Efrain Escudero $2.40 (+140) *1.5 Joe Rogans
Rich Franklin beat Vitor Belfort $1.77 (-130) *1 Joe Rogan
Frank Trigg beat Josh Koscheck $4.55 (+355) *1 Joe Rogan
Drew McFedries beat Tomasz Drwal $2.00 (+100) *1 Joe Rogan
Eliot Marshall beat Jason Brilz $2.25 (+125) *1 Joe Rogan
Nick Lentz beat Rafaello Oliveira $3.40 (+240) *1 Joe Rogan
Parlay #1
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Jim Miller
Martin Kampmann
Junior Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Rick Story
odds = $8.36 (+776) *half Joe Rogan
Parlay #2
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Jim Miller
Martin Kampmann
Junior Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Rick Story
Cole Miller
odds = $20.07 (+1907) *half Joe Rogan
I had to take some Marshall at +133. Brilz looks like he could make 185 pounds.
Kick should be happy, I bought back a lot of my Cro Cop bet.
I have way too many bets on this card!!!
I hate betting a lot of fights but I think they all have a great chance!!! :scared
Cole Miller is THE BIG ONE!!!!
Kick should be happy, I bought back a lot of my Cro Cop bet.
I have way too many bets on this card!!!
I hate betting a lot of fights but I think they all have a great chance!!! :scared
Cole Miller is THE BIG ONE!!!!
pretty much tapped out on mayweather and a little on chris john in boxing(i know,i know:mj11: )....
but i caught some miller at +130 when it opened and i`m on santos(parred with thiago silva at 3-1 and a little straight at even money)..lucky for weepaul
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have koscheck in a maynard par(the 3rd leg cerrone,was cancelled and rescheduled)...
if i weren`t tapped on other wagers,i might take a look at story and marshall.....
g.l.,everybody...
but i caught some miller at +130 when it opened and i`m on santos(parred with thiago silva at 3-1 and a little straight at even money)..lucky for weepaul
,...have koscheck in a maynard par(the 3rd leg cerrone,was cancelled and rescheduled)...
if i weren`t tapped on other wagers,i might take a look at story and marshall.....
g.l.,everybody...
ARGH, I never second guess my picks but I'm second third and fourth guessing this Franklin pick.
UFC 102 was pretty succesful...lets give 103 a shot...
Belfort +110
Cro Cop +140
McFedries EVEN MONEY
Parlay:
Vladimir Matyushenko -280
Jim Miller -510
Martin Kampmann -385
good luck boys
Belfort +110
Cro Cop +140
McFedries EVEN MONEY
Parlay:
Vladimir Matyushenko -280
Jim Miller -510
Martin Kampmann -385
good luck boys
honestly,layin`...i don`t get all the belfort love....he can win,no doubt..he`s the naturally bigger guy.....but he left the ufc for a reason...
he may be the new(reinvented)sexy pick....and i think the quick win over lindland fanned the flame(other than that quickie,i don`t see anything that blows my doors off on his recent resume)....but i`m not sure that a measured,careful,fairly well rounded guy like franklin is a good match-up for belfort....he`ll have trouble overwhelming franklin early....and the longer it goes,imo,advantage franklin...
for me,though,theres no real incentive to wager on this....having trouble getting a feel on the size issue...
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Well I am about to hit the road to Dallas in about 15 minutes as I am taking my friend up on his free company tickets to the fight.
All he told me was that they were in the lower section so should be good.
Here are my plays:
Already have too many straight and parlays ending plays on Dos Santos so will just say it this way:
Got DOS SANTOS with 450 in plays to win 889.
Straight Play:
Cole Miller(+140) for 100 wins 140.
Parlay:
Rich Franklin
Martin Kampmann
100 wins 115
Good Luck. Not lloking forward to almost 10 hours in the car today as I have to come back after fights because I have to be in at work in the morning.
All he told me was that they were in the lower section so should be good.
Here are my plays:
Already have too many straight and parlays ending plays on Dos Santos so will just say it this way:
Got DOS SANTOS with 450 in plays to win 889.
Straight Play:
Cole Miller(+140) for 100 wins 140.
Parlay:
Rich Franklin
Martin Kampmann
100 wins 115
Good Luck. Not lloking forward to almost 10 hours in the car today as I have to come back after fights because I have to be in at work in the morning.
mayhem miller looks at a couple fights(layin`,they like your boy franklin).......miller seems like a likable guy...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/blog/2009/09/mayhem-and-blair-butler-breakdown-ufc.asp
http://www.mmaweekly.com/blog/2009/09/mayhem-and-blair-butler-breakdown-ufc.asp
i was impressed with dos santos quickness for a huge guy in the video i posted in panel 54.....he was in,throwing a combination and out pretty damned quickly....
he has to be careful about crocop`s kicks on his way back outside after throwing a combination....
Junior Dos Santos beat Mirko Filipovic $2.00 (+100) 4 Joe Rogans
Cole Miller beat Efrain Escudero $2.40 (+140) *1.5 Joe Rogans
Miller should not even be an underdog, I mean Escudero is nothing special, I mean guess we can sum it up like this "who the hell is Efrain Escudero"? Yes you are 11-0, but look at who you have beaten, pretty much nobody. I will go with Miller at those odds thank ya very much
Now on to the gift of the night.........Dos Santos baby. I got him at even money 2 months ago and even though his odds have got worse, he is still a gift. Sure Mr. weepaul disagrees, but I think he'll reconsider and actually follow kickserv (and others) and come to his senses and take Dos Santos. I have said it in other posts and I'll say it again:
Dos Santos will destroy Mirko.....that's right DESTROY
Call your mom, dad, grampa, ex-wife, garbage man, mailman, and long lost high school buddy and tell them to bet on Dos Santos, just do it.
After this fight you will never see the farmer Cro Crop again, he's done, put a fork in him, HE IS DONE
why is santos only -150?
he opened at even money.....nobody knows (for sure)whether crocop is completely past his prime or whether he has a few more big fights left in him....
we`ll find out tonight...
