UFC 130: May 28 Las Vegas, NV

[gardenweasel]

There is more to his twitter then the one message genius. For a guy like me who can read between the lines i love the fact they can go on twitter and vent. Now a clown like u who gets conned daily, twitter shouldn't be for u. The hilarious thing is that i knew u would post what u did. JUst surprised it took u so long.

forgive me....i obviously can`t read between the lines.....i didn`t realize that, "According to Alves twitter he looks to be right on track." was chock-full of inside goodies...

that clinched a mega-wager for me.....thanks for sharing....and "keepin` it real"....:lol:

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

forgive me....i obviously can`t read between the lines.....i didn`t realize that, "According to Alves twitter he looks to be right on track." was chock-full of inside goodies...

that clinched a mega-wager for me.....thanks for sharing....and "keepin` it real"....:lol:

I'm not sure what this twitter business is all about, but Sponge did nail the NBA draft with his between the lines reading ability :shrug:

 

[The Sponge]

I'm not sure what this twitter business is all about, but Sponge did nail the NBA draft with his between the lines reading ability :shrug:

And we both realized the super human elite wrestler Shields didn't belong in the same ring as GSP

 

[gardenweasel]

And we both realized the super human elite wrestler Shields didn't belong in the same ring as GSP

bold stroke as usual...

actually,everyone did.....that`s why he was almost a 5-1 fave...

who do you like this weekend,spongy?....has to be a 5 or 6-1 fave you can give us the inside info on....the "read between the lines" skinny...

/ good grief...

 

[bert07]

after seeing Dolce on the MMA show on HDNET water seems to be a large part of his diet strategy. Drinking like 3 gallons a day and even more once the fight nears.

crazy

 

[The Sponge]

bold stroke as usual...

actually,everyone did.....that`s why he was almost a 5-1 fave...

who do you like this weekend,spongy?....has to be a 5 or 6-1 fave you can give us the inside info on....the "read between the lines" skinny...

/ good grief...

i don't bet eight fights like u do then come back and bet the other guy cause im scared. As for the 5 to 1 favorite? You bought the overblown hype on Shields and jumped at that 5 to 1. remember. He won like 20 in a row :mj07:

 

[gardenweasel]

i don't bet eight fights like u do then come back and bet the other guy cause im scared. As for the 5 to 1 favorite? You bought the overblown hype on Shields and jumped at that 5 to 1. remember. He won like 20 in a row :mj07:

as usual,your reading comprehension is shitty(i`m not sure whether it`s just due to a lack of intelligence,incompetence to the point of almost being criminal or just your usual obfuscation)...i guess you ASSume that everyone else has the same reading comprehension issues that you have...you obviously forgot that they can go back and read the thread and check out my take on the fights......

that means my gsp parlay hit...

the +600(macdonald quickest sub) winner...

and +450(hominick/ aldo fotn) winners i posted....not to mention the machida itd prop....and ellenberger(i even mentioned ellenberger by tko at +330)...

i don`t usually repost winners,but you like making shit up,so i figured it was worth setting the record straight...

yes,i lost a small straight play on hominick at very long odds....but i don`t feel like it was an embarrassing loss....i`d play it again at those odds......

and i owe defacto an apology...i think i was a bit unfair to him in that thread....my bad bud...won`t happen again...:0074


like everyone else i said that gsp would dictate how the fight was fought and would win....

i argued that shields did deserve the shot...which he did...and was an excellent grappler...but i didn`t think that gsp would let this get to the ground....which he basically didn`t....

i was pretty much spot on...what i didn`t figure was that shields would actually have a modicum of success standing...

of course,to a moron,the obvious nuance is lost(thanks for confirming this)...

i`d like to give the rest of the board what looks like a very good parlay stuffer(so don`t read this a-hole...go pull picks off some other boards like you always do).....

the "doesn`t go the distance" prop in the struve/browne fight was roughly -300 at 5 dimes... i`ll be surprised if this goes the full 3....both guys are finishers....and neither fights defensively...i haven`t checked the odds since earlier in the day...i hope they haven`t moved....i don`t like laying 3-1,so for me,it`s a parlay stuffer...

there are some other parlay partners that might be worth considering with this(like the over 9.5 or "goes the distance" props in glen johnson/froch)....

imo,it`s worth a hard look...i`m sure some of our sharp mma guys will find some more parlay fodder...

g.l. to the rest of the crew:toast: ...still looking at stuff and waiting for the undercard lines...

 

[Ghost Kid]

This looks like an entertaining card, but an extremely difficult one to bet.

In my opinion, a lot of the main card bouts can go either way.

No easy money here - at least that I can gather.
:shrug:

Not a parlay event.

 

[HurricaneEddy]

I waited till the line was +115 then bet Roy BIG last night.

Got a couple of bucks on Story by DEC and Hammill moneyline (but im not terribly confident in either- just playing the odds for a small amount)

Best of luck gentleman

 

[kickserv]

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[The Sponge]

Interesting Dana and Barnett taking pictures together. U got to love Dana here. No grudge holding like he did when he first came around. i think he learned this from Vince McMahon. Heck McMahon even rehired guys who were in court against him. Dana is the best president in all of sports hands down no contest. When he say's he wants to bring the fans the best fights i truly believe him because he wants to see them also. The UFC model is a lot like the WWE. Not the matches. All the other stuff. Music when the fighters come out, fighters being fan friendly, just all those little things that make a promotion successful.

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

Travis Browne -140 big bet
browne quickest ko +800
browne KOTN +725

The UFC threw these guys together so they can bang, Browne has had three fights in the UFC, each of them against a known striker (mcsweeny, kongo, now struve).

Browne is a very aggressive striker, he may appear wreckless but he is just trying to lure his opponent in (which will play a big part against struve). When he fought Kongo, kongo walked into a shot in the first and got rocked, then spent the rest of the fight running, holding, and grabbing browne's shorts.

You know browne is going to come out aggressive and I don't think struve has the luxury of running here (not that he would anyways). He knows his career is on thin ice right now. His last fight was on the undercard against mckorkel and he almost lost that against someone who shouldn't have never even been in the UFC. He knows he is expected to put on a show and bang, the UFC has been trying to hype this card as a KO fest, so you know there will be added pressure, or "incentives", or whatever you want to call it. And it's the lower paid guys like this who are more effected by it.

Struve has also gotten ktfo in the first minute by aggressive strikers with any type of skill (JDS and Roy Nelson both swarmed him). Struve is a bum, I don't see how he can engineer a KO against browne when he hasn't been able to KO cans like buentello :facepalm: . After struve gets ktfo he gonna piss himself like pisssssssssssssssssssssss

With that said, I'm still going to put a tiny sprinkle down on struve fastest KO, KOTN, even though I think the only chance he has is by sub or decision.

Stann -140 medium bet
Stann Quickest KO +550
Stann KOTN +600

I like Stann here anyways, but the added angle of the whole military aspect makes it a stronger play, imo. The UFC has a large following within military (fight night for the troops ect...), so this memorial day weekend is big. The UFC obviously wants Stann to win, he was in the military himself, and has stated his motivation for this fight.

I was not at all impressed with Santiago's decision win over khalidov, they both looked like shit. The experience you get fighting in Japan (in a ring) is really no comparison to the UFC. Santiago was cut after he got ktfo by people like chris leben (who stann ktfo in the first round last fight) then went to Japan an fought against cans in a ring, so why should he be any better all of a sudden, in a cage no less?

I will go on record as saying that these two fights are the only ones that will end in KO/TKO.

 

[weepaul]

My bets for this card :shrug:

Hamill to beat Rampage +220.I think Rampage probably wins on points but at +220 I'm taking a shot at Hamill. He actually used his wrestling against Tito and I hope he does the same with Rampage.
Quinton does not stuff takedowns like he used to and once he's on his back, he has a Bastard of a time trying to get up.

Story to beat Alves at +175.Again I am taking a big risk with this bet but I think if Story's iron chin holds up, he will maul Alves.

Torres to beat "Mighty Mouse" at -110.I think this is a shitty match-up for Torres but I think "Mighty Mouse" will take him down and will end up in deep shit with subs before he knows what's happening. I just hope he does not come in with the smart game plan of staying on the feet and beating Torres with quickness.

Nelson to beat Mir at +120.This fight depends on Mir's cardio. When they grappled in the past, Roy manhandled Mir and beat him 15 points to 2. Mir started off well, winning the first 2 points but ran out of gas as usual. This was when Roy was almost skinny, 40 pounds ago.
In my opinion Roy has the bigger heart and better chin, Frank is more well-rounded.
I believe this fight will come down to stamina.

Really fucking pissed at myself as I accidentally doubled up on my Nelson bet. :facepalm: :facepalm:

Good luck people!! :toast: :toast: :toast:

 

[gardenweasel]

Travis Browne -140 big bet
browne quickest ko +800
browne KOTN +725

The UFC threw these guys together so they can bang, Browne has had three fights in the UFC, each of them against a known striker (mcsweeny, kongo, now struve).

Browne is a very aggressive striker, he may appear wreckless but he is just trying to lure his opponent in (which will play a big part against struve). When he fought Kongo, kongo walked into a shot in the first and got rocked, then spent the rest of the fight running, holding, and grabbing browne's shorts.

You know browne is going to come out aggressive and I don't think struve has the luxury of running here (not that he would anyways). He knows his career is on thin ice right now. His last fight was on the undercard against mckorkel and he almost lost that against someone who shouldn't have never even been in the UFC. He knows he is expected to put on a show and bang, the UFC has been trying to hype this card as a KO fest, so you know there will be added pressure, or "incentives", or whatever you want to call it. And it's the lower paid guys like this who are more effected by it.

Struve has also gotten ktfo in the first minute by aggressive strikers with any type of skill (JDS and Roy Nelson both swarmed him). Struve is a bum, I don't see how he can engineer a KO against browne when he hasn't been able to KO cans like buentello :facepalm: . After struve gets ktfo he gonna piss himself like pisssssssssssssssssssssss

With that said, I'm still going to put a tiny sprinkle down on struve fastest KO, KOTN, even though I think the only chance he has is by sub or decision.

Stann -140 medium bet
Stann Quickest KO +550
Stann KOTN +600

I like Stann here anyways, but the added angle of the whole military aspect makes it a stronger play, imo. The UFC has a large following within military (fight night for the troops ect...), so this memorial day weekend is big. The UFC obviously wants Stann to win, he was in the military himself, and has stated his motivation for this fight.

I was not at all impressed with Santiago's decision win over khalidov, they both looked like shit. The experience you get fighting in Japan (in a ring) is really no comparison to the UFC. Santiago was cut after he got ktfo by people like chris leben (who stann ktfo in the first round last fight) then went to Japan an fought against cans in a ring, so why should he be any better all of a sudden, in a cage no less?

I will go on record as saying that these two fights are the only ones that will end in KO/TKO.

certainly are possibilities,imo.......i think struve`s better than you`re giving him credit for(didn`t we do this before...lol)...he was only 17 when he started and is still filling out....

looks to me like browne will look to end this quickly(which is when struve is vulnerable...slow starter)......but if he can`t finish struve early,it could be a difficult night for browne...still,i seriously doubt this goes to the cards(ditto stann/santiago)..

i already took story +175 in march...be curious to see what happens if alves doesn`t dominate early and is forced to fight for a full 15 minutes with a better grappler and a guy who is just about as strong...i think alves is a front-runner...i hope he`s forced to go ata fast pace for a full 3 rounds...i figure if i`m gonna take a shot against alves,i`ll do it with a wrestler/grinder/lefty(which might negate the alves kicks a little being that he`ll have to turn his whole body to kick the inside of story`s right leg and be more open to potential takedowns)...and who knows how drained alves will be?....

.i think struve/browne... and story/alves have fotn potential.....


actually,so does santiago/stann...relatively few decisions in the careers of stann/santiago and struve/browne....

struve has 1 decision in 26 fights....browne 2 decisions in 11 fights...santiago has 26 finishes in 31 fights...stann has 10 finishes in 13 fights....

i like mighty mouse a little vs torres...i keep thinking that torres looks a little slow at times and that this just might resemble the last fight that torres had with a super-quick midget(benavides).....seems like their careers might be on different trajectories....

tough fight...and the roughly even odds reflect it...

want to look at the weigh-ins before i post everything i`m going with....

i do like what defacto has(even though i think struve is a live doggie)...

btw...small "rampage ko of the night"....+600...bigger man...and imo,hamill has morphed into a stand-up fighter...he seldom uses his takedowns...if he gets stuffed early and is forced into a stand-up fight...or if jackson falls behind and becomes desperate....i can see a brutal k.o. possibly happening...

left hook..

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

certainly are possibilities,imo.......i think struve`s better than you`re giving him credit for(didn`t we do this before...lol)...he was only 17 when he started and is still filling out....

Yea we did, lol. I guess we just have to "agree to disagree".

But if your boy struve is top tier, why is he a doggie to travis...who?

No respect :nono: :nono: :nono:

looks to me like browne will look to end this quickly(which is when struve is vulnerable...slow starter)......but if he can`t finish struve early,it could be a difficult night for browne...still,i seriously doubt this goes to the cards(ditto stann/santiago)..

I don't think struve would have any edge if this made it past the first. Struve has only had one fight go to decision and him and buentello beat the fock out of each other for three rounds. All his other fights someone has been severely hurt in the first, and if it didn't end then, it would end early in the second.

He has only been past round 2 once in his career :shrug:

i already took story +175 in march...be curious to see what happens if alves doesn`t dominate early and is forced to fight for a full 15 minutes with a better grappler and a guy who is just about as strong...i think alves is a front-runner...i hope he`s forced to go ata fast pace for a full 3 rounds...i figure if i`m gonna take a shot against alves,i`ll do it with a wrestler/grinder/lefty(which might negate the alves kicks a little being that he`ll have to turn his whole body to kick the inside of story`s right leg and be more open to potential takedowns)...and who knows how drained alves will be?....

I'm liking this fight to go the distance. Alves last four fights have been against wrestlers an all decisions. I don't think story's game is any secret, and the points you brought up make me think he may have some success. The value is might be in the story by decision prop.

On the other hand Sponge had some insights as to this fight and I would be hesitant to fade that.

btw...small "rampage ko of the night"....+600...bigger man...and imo,hamill has morphed into a stand-up fighter...he seldom uses his takedowns...if he gets stuffed early and is forced into a stand-up fight...or if jackson falls behind and becomes desperate....i can see a brutal k.o. possibly happening...

left hook..

I have a little action on Hamill by decision. I don't really think he will win, per se, but I didn't think Hopkins would either, and after the fight was over I was wondering why I didn't get a piece of him a W12 anyway.

I would be really shocked if Hamill ktfo rampage, and I don't think he will submit anyone in his entire career.

 

[gardenweasel]

Yea we did, lol. I guess we just have to "agree to disagree".

But if your boy struve is top tier, why is he a doggie to travis...who?

No respect :nono: :nono: :nono:



been past round 2 once in his career :shrug:
I don't think struve would have any edge if this made it past the first. Struve has only had one fight go to decision and him and buentello beat the fock out of each other for three rounds. All his other fights someone has been severely hurt in the first, and if it didn't end then, it would end early in the second.

He has only


I'm liking this fight to go the distance. Alves last four fights have been against wrestlers an all decisions. I don't think story's game is any secret, and the points you brought up make me think he may have some success. The value is might be in the story by decision prop.

On the other hand Sponge had some insights as to this fight and I would be hesitant to fade that.



I have a little action on Hamill by decision. I don't really think he will win, per se, but I didn't think Hopkins would either, and after the fight was over I was wondering why I didn't get a piece of him a W12 anyway.

I would be really shocked if Hamill ktfo rampage, and I don't think he will submit anyone in his entire career.

he opened the fave...and folks jumped on browne....

not sure about browne`s resume.....i`ve always felt that that kongo might be thee most overreated fighter in the ufc...he looks like a beast...but he`s a pretty pedestrian fighter and has proven so vs some mediocre guys....

and as far as browne/struve going rounds,i just don`t see it......i`m pretty sure that browne is aware of struve`s early difficulties in fights...and i`m also sure that he`s aware that struve has amazing recuperative ability.....so if browne hurts struve early(as i suspect he`ll try to),i think he goes balls to the wall for a finish....if he doesn`t,i think struve will get him....

hard to believe that struve only went to decision in one fight out of 26.....and that was vs a smallish buentello....

somebody`s getting stopped here,imo....

g.l.

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

he opened the fave...and folks jumped on browne....

Wow, didn't know that, makes me feel better though. Sometimes I wonder if these line moves are just based on action, or something else.

The line kept moving frank edgars way, and then when the news comes out that maynard suffered an injury "earlier" in training, which coincided with the money move.

They ended the fight after Edgar got injured too, which makes me think maynard was planning to go ahead and fight hurt, and the people in the know were betting against him.

.....i`m pretty sure that browne is aware of struve`s early difficulties in fights...and i`m also sure that he`s aware that struve has amazing recuperative ability.....so if browne hurts struve early(as i suspect he`ll try to),i think he goes balls to the wall for a finish....if he doesn`t,i think struve will get him....

hard to believe that struve only went to decision in one fight out of 26.....and that was vs a smallish buentello....

somebody`s getting stopped here,imo....

g.l.

I know this is conjecture, but I feel that since the card totally flopped they will be handing out under the table bonuses to make crazy shit happen, which will cause alot of fighters to go all out.

The main event was already cancelled. The current main event is a flop as Hamill is just a replacement. But the ppv still costs the same, lol. They have to justify it somehow.

 

[kickserv]

Roy Nelson hair at the weigh-ins:facepalm:


Alves/Story.....look the fuck out:scared


And was it just me or did Rampage seem a little dizzy when he was on stage:shrug:

 

[Ghost Kid]

And was it just me or did Rampage seem a little dizzy when he was on stage:shrug:

I saw that, too.

 

[bert07]

I saw that, too.

I agree he was swaying kind of

the guy with him knew it when he was taking off his shoes and was right there to help him