UFC 197, April 23rd, Las Vegas, Nevada

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I eat fruit loops



I miss Clusters


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really impressive win for Johnson...it was way too early for cejudo(acted like he`d never seen a thai clinch before).....I would have liked to see it go a little longer.....

still say Johnson needs to beat some names to be in the conversation as the best....maybe,being that theres not much in the division he`ll fight cruz again?......that`s what they need to do....
 

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really impressive win for Johnson...it was way too early for cejudo(acted like he`d never seen a thai clinch before).....I would have liked to see it go a little longer.....

still say Johnson needs to beat some names to be in the conversation as the best....maybe,being that theres not much in the division he`ll fight cruz again?......that`s what they need to do....

Oh man, Cruz MM superfight would be amazing.
 

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pettis might be the most overhyped fighter in the entire organization...he needs to hit the weightroom...

I mean, it's not like he's lost 3 straight to chumps. The LW division is no joke. I mean there are 14 legit LWs in the UFC right now. I dont think you can find any other division with 7, yet alone 14.

But he needs to improve his grappling/wrestling.
 

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Did Jones ever get super lucky Daniel Cormier pulled out of the fight. Daniel Cormier would have wrecked the Jones that showed up in the fight I am watching right now.
 

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Why does everyone always try to get in a point fighting contest with Jones?!? :facepalm:

The style to beat Jones is the style you needed to beat the old Machida....take the fight to him. Clearly point fighting doesn't work. You have to be the aggressor. Alex laid the foundation for it. I know it's easier said than done, but some of these guys' strategies are mind boggling.
 

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My god the LHW division is a joke if OSP is ranked #6. I'd rather watch 2 old people fuck then watch them fight ever again.
 

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I mean, it's not like he's lost 3 straight to chumps. The LW division is no joke. I mean there are 14 legit LWs in the UFC right now. I dont think you can find any other division with 7, yet alone 14.

But he needs to improve his grappling/wrestling.

I think he needs to get stronger physically...all those fancy tumble kicks and point-fighting punches don`t mean much when a guy like Barbosa is destroying all your pitty-pat strikes with brutalizing kicks and left hooks and you`re getting ragdolled along the cage with nothing to offer in return vs a guy like dos anjos....

if the ufc wants to keep pettis` profile up,they`d better match him carefully from this point forward.....he has real holes in his game and throughout the last 3,he doesn`t look like he`s improved much....
 

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12 fights (Fili fight was a PK'em)....two underdogs won....biggest underdog was Walt Harris at +160 odds.
 

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I`m already taking a flyer on cejudo..might be a bit too early for him,but he may well be the best guy Johnson`s fought,this side of Dominick cruz....I don`t think it`s gonna be a cakewalk by any stretch...count me in at +350...


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I guess it wasn`t fair to expect jones to come back like a freight train first time out.........but that was underwhelming from both guys....

it is fun watching the ufc propagandists try and spin it as though we just watched st preux go out like he was gen. custer...most of that fight was two guys staring at one another...

can`t expect em all to be classics...
 

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A Pettis -175 / Jones -600 / Esparza -185 / S Pettis -220 $100 to win $310.81

A Pettis $175 to win $100
S Pettis $220 to win $100
Esparza $185 to win $100


Gonna take a WTF flyer on Natal/Cejudo $25 to win $338.87



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