four early plays @ Camelot
(all -105)
Furyk over Love
Howell over Parny
Dimarco over Allenby
Lowery over Sutherland
(all -105)
Furyk over Love
Howell over Parny
Dimarco over Allenby
Lowery over Sutherland
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Couples -110 over Lehman
Couples made ever cut in 11 attempts here finishing top 25 9 times.Lehman missed 2 cuts in 6 attempts and one top 25.
Couples -110 over Lehman
Couples made ever cut in 11 attempts here finishing top 25 9 times.Lehman missed 2 cuts in 6 attempts and one top 25.
Can't find a lot of odds up yet Ian but like your list.Will be looking hard at Kaye Mediate and Howell.Might even put a win option on Howell if I can find better than 22/1 @ Sportingbet.Despite missing cut last year like his chances especially if wind blows and ditto for Kaye on wind.
The trigger-happy oddsmaking at Camelot makes me laugh! DTB places $10 on Howell and he drops to 33/1.
I'm sure he has the same experience as me ... whenever I place a golf wager there the line will have jumped 10 cents by the time I load up the page again
I'm sure he has the same experience as me ... whenever I place a golf wager there the line will have jumped 10 cents by the time I load up the page again
Preview & outright plays:
I am not a fan of these pro-ams that are held in early and late season. When players are trying desperately to hold onto their Tour cards or even just qualify for the Tour Championship, being paired with amateurs and playing on artificially easy courses trivializes the whole affair in my opinion. They play with the amateurs on three different courses for the first three days and then, after the 54-hole cut, they play in the standard pro format on the host course over the weekend. Making a score before the weekend is key and this brings to the fore the more experienced players and the ones more at ease with distractions. Hal Sutton has a terrible record in these events, Fred Couples has an excellent one. Two people with different degrees of intensity and therefore suitability to the pro-am format.
The Desert Inn golf course was sold and closed last year with the construction of a new hotel, so the TPC at The Canyons joins the TPC at Summerlin (host course) and Southern Highlands as the courses to be used this week. All three courses are over 7000 yards, but play much shorter in the thin desert air, plus, the fairways are wide and the greens are soft because of the amateur contingent. This can become a putting contest as Furyk's three victories have shown.
The outright selections for this event are Davis Love, Rocco Mediate and Kevin Sutherland. Love has had an injury-affected season and has not played since finishing 5th in the NEC Invitational. He has simply been very selective about his tournaments since the US Open and has played well on virtually every occasion. With suitability to the format being important, he also brings a very good history in this event, which he won in 1993. With top-5 finishes in four of his last eight visits, he gets the short-price selection.
Two good prices are available on Mediate and Sutherland. Mediate is another who has had a very light schedule due to injury concerns after starting the season in great form. He signaled a return to that form with 2nd place in the Pennsylvania Classic last month. His form in this event has been steady with decent finishes in three of the last four years, but he has never played as well as this year and should be looking to improve on his previous high finish of 14th.
Sutherland retains his position as an outright selection despite a disappointing weekend that saw his fall to 32nd overall last week. With top-5 finishes in his previous two events, his form is still good and he does have a good history in pro-ams. He has finished in the top-10 in two of the last three years in the Bob Hope and has been 6th in two of the last fours years in this event. Curiously, in both events his top-10 finishes have occurred in 'odd' years, so let's hope that trend continues this week!
Outright plays:
Davis Love to win 14/1 e.w. available generally
Rocco Mediate to win 66/1 e.w. @ Bet365
Kevin Sutherland to win 66/1 e.w. @ Sporting Odds or Bet365
I am not a fan of these pro-ams that are held in early and late season. When players are trying desperately to hold onto their Tour cards or even just qualify for the Tour Championship, being paired with amateurs and playing on artificially easy courses trivializes the whole affair in my opinion. They play with the amateurs on three different courses for the first three days and then, after the 54-hole cut, they play in the standard pro format on the host course over the weekend. Making a score before the weekend is key and this brings to the fore the more experienced players and the ones more at ease with distractions. Hal Sutton has a terrible record in these events, Fred Couples has an excellent one. Two people with different degrees of intensity and therefore suitability to the pro-am format.
The Desert Inn golf course was sold and closed last year with the construction of a new hotel, so the TPC at The Canyons joins the TPC at Summerlin (host course) and Southern Highlands as the courses to be used this week. All three courses are over 7000 yards, but play much shorter in the thin desert air, plus, the fairways are wide and the greens are soft because of the amateur contingent. This can become a putting contest as Furyk's three victories have shown.
The outright selections for this event are Davis Love, Rocco Mediate and Kevin Sutherland. Love has had an injury-affected season and has not played since finishing 5th in the NEC Invitational. He has simply been very selective about his tournaments since the US Open and has played well on virtually every occasion. With suitability to the format being important, he also brings a very good history in this event, which he won in 1993. With top-5 finishes in four of his last eight visits, he gets the short-price selection.
Two good prices are available on Mediate and Sutherland. Mediate is another who has had a very light schedule due to injury concerns after starting the season in great form. He signaled a return to that form with 2nd place in the Pennsylvania Classic last month. His form in this event has been steady with decent finishes in three of the last four years, but he has never played as well as this year and should be looking to improve on his previous high finish of 14th.
Sutherland retains his position as an outright selection despite a disappointing weekend that saw his fall to 32nd overall last week. With top-5 finishes in his previous two events, his form is still good and he does have a good history in pro-ams. He has finished in the top-10 in two of the last three years in the Bob Hope and has been 6th in two of the last fours years in this event. Curiously, in both events his top-10 finishes have occurred in 'odd' years, so let's hope that trend continues this week!
Outright plays:
Davis Love to win 14/1 e.w. available generally
Rocco Mediate to win 66/1 e.w. @ Bet365
Kevin Sutherland to win 66/1 e.w. @ Sporting Odds or Bet365
Winner last week head to head as Mattice actually came in 5th. Las Vegas:
Let me have Wayne Newton Over Steve Wynn!
Maruyama -110 over J. Edwards @ Millinnium.
90 holes.
Happy Gaming!
Let me have Wayne Newton Over Steve Wynn!
Maruyama -110 over J. Edwards @ Millinnium.
90 holes.
Happy Gaming!
Is it just me or have things been going to plan lately? (Been away on holiday and not betting)
Leonard defends in Texas....
Toms (recent UPGA winner) defends in Michelob....
Langer wins again in Germany....
How about Furyk winning his 4th Vegas in last 7 years? (14/1 Surrey, Sports.com, Stan James)
Suppose now I'm back the form book goes back out of the window....
Leonard defends in Texas....
Toms (recent UPGA winner) defends in Michelob....
Langer wins again in Germany....
How about Furyk winning his 4th Vegas in last 7 years? (14/1 Surrey, Sports.com, Stan James)
Suppose now I'm back the form book goes back out of the window....
outrights
Howell 1/2 unit win @Camelot 40/1
Howell 1/2 unit show @ Oly 8/1
also to show only 1/2 unit each @ Oly
Mediate 10/1
Kaye 12.5/1
McCarron 15/1
Hard headed on interactives.Told self after losers prior to start of tourny on Furyk and Duval past 2 weeks I'd wait till cut to buy in,but going to take flyer on Furyk again for 5 shares @ $7 each (14/1).I think this is 1st tourney I can remember with no one starting out in double digets.
Howell 1/2 unit win @Camelot 40/1
Howell 1/2 unit show @ Oly 8/1
also to show only 1/2 unit each @ Oly
Mediate 10/1
Kaye 12.5/1
McCarron 15/1
Hard headed on interactives.Told self after losers prior to start of tourny on Furyk and Duval past 2 weeks I'd wait till cut to buy in,but going to take flyer on Furyk again for 5 shares @ $7 each (14/1).I think this is 1st tourney I can remember with no one starting out in double digets.
90-hole plays:
Charles Howell to beat John Daly +100 @ Paddy Power
Looking to oppose Daly this week, despite having him as a profitable selection in Germany last week. Apart from the fatigue factor - this is a five-day event and it is the second time in six weeks that he has flown to and from Germany - he has a very poor record in this event and in the other 90-hole pro-am event, the Bob Hope Classic. He may be a lot more patient nowadays, but performing with the amateurs is an acquired taste! Howell is simply a great prospect and in good form, coming off 3rd in the Michelob last week
Justin Leonard to beat John Daly -110 @ BlueSq [2 units]
A missed cut last week is of little concern for Leonard having successfully defended his Texas Open title. His form is good and with a record in this event this is just as good, he should have a good week
Rocco Mediate to beat John Daly -120 @ Camelot [3 units]
Mediate is an outright selection and a strong week is expected from him. He may not finish in the top-5 to win the outright play, but is playing good enough to beat Daly
Fred Funk to beat Steve Jones -110 @ Bet365
Ignoring the missed cut on the Bermuda greens of the Texas Open, Funk's form is good. Jones' form is certainly not. He has had an injury-affected season and missed more cuts than he has made. Strong chance he will miss another this week
Kirk Triplett to beat J.J. Henry -125 @ BlueSq [2 units]
Backing Triplett to have yet another great week. Apart from a disqualification in the NEC Invitational over not telling his playing partner he was going to lift his ball to identify it and so signing for the wrong score - there should have been a one-shot penalty as Mickelson also found out that week - Triplett has finished in the top-15 in every tournament he has entered since the US Open bar one. In that form and with a reasonable record in this format, he looks set for maybe extending that run. Henry has also been in great form, but the rookie should find the pro-am format rather more unsettling
Kirk Triplett to beat Scott McCarron -120 @ Camelot
A finish of 5th last year hides an otherwise poor record in this event for McCarron. With just three top-10 finishes - though one was a victory in the BellSouth Classic - all year, it is very clear that he is not in the same form as Triplett and so is opposed
Charles Howell to beat John Daly +100 @ Paddy Power
Looking to oppose Daly this week, despite having him as a profitable selection in Germany last week. Apart from the fatigue factor - this is a five-day event and it is the second time in six weeks that he has flown to and from Germany - he has a very poor record in this event and in the other 90-hole pro-am event, the Bob Hope Classic. He may be a lot more patient nowadays, but performing with the amateurs is an acquired taste! Howell is simply a great prospect and in good form, coming off 3rd in the Michelob last week
Justin Leonard to beat John Daly -110 @ BlueSq [2 units]
A missed cut last week is of little concern for Leonard having successfully defended his Texas Open title. His form is good and with a record in this event this is just as good, he should have a good week
Rocco Mediate to beat John Daly -120 @ Camelot [3 units]
Mediate is an outright selection and a strong week is expected from him. He may not finish in the top-5 to win the outright play, but is playing good enough to beat Daly
Fred Funk to beat Steve Jones -110 @ Bet365
Ignoring the missed cut on the Bermuda greens of the Texas Open, Funk's form is good. Jones' form is certainly not. He has had an injury-affected season and missed more cuts than he has made. Strong chance he will miss another this week
Kirk Triplett to beat J.J. Henry -125 @ BlueSq [2 units]
Backing Triplett to have yet another great week. Apart from a disqualification in the NEC Invitational over not telling his playing partner he was going to lift his ball to identify it and so signing for the wrong score - there should have been a one-shot penalty as Mickelson also found out that week - Triplett has finished in the top-15 in every tournament he has entered since the US Open bar one. In that form and with a reasonable record in this format, he looks set for maybe extending that run. Henry has also been in great form, but the rookie should find the pro-am format rather more unsettling
Kirk Triplett to beat Scott McCarron -120 @ Camelot
A finish of 5th last year hides an otherwise poor record in this event for McCarron. With just three top-10 finishes - though one was a victory in the BellSouth Classic - all year, it is very clear that he is not in the same form as Triplett and so is opposed
One other player of note is Cook - he is definitely overpriced at 66/1 at Oly considering his recent win and his record in 90 hole pro-ams
Hi Chaps
My 90-hole Match-up NAP is:
ROCCO MEDIATE at 5-6 to beat Cink [Chandler]
I am firmly of the belief,that Mediate will Win one of these Pro=am shoot outs before his career finishes.
His laid back style of play is made for events like Vegas,he has a decent record on the course and is in form.
Cink in my opinion is overrated,although he has played well here in the past.However his current form suggests that his A game is a long way away.
Good luck
Matchmaker
My 90-hole Match-up NAP is:
ROCCO MEDIATE at 5-6 to beat Cink [Chandler]
I am firmly of the belief,that Mediate will Win one of these Pro=am shoot outs before his career finishes.
His laid back style of play is made for events like Vegas,he has a decent record on the course and is in form.
Cink in my opinion is overrated,although he has played well here in the past.However his current form suggests that his A game is a long way away.
Good luck
Matchmaker
I hope your right matchmaker ... I'm looking for a good week from Mediate as well
Nice to have some support for one of my outright plays ... I see DTB has opposed my other two in his plays
Good to see the English contingent growing here. Spent most of the 90s in Coventry myself, Earlsdon to be precise
Nice to have some support for one of my outright plays ... I see DTB has opposed my other two in his plays
Good to see the English contingent growing here. Spent most of the 90s in Coventry myself, Earlsdon to be precise
I like your outrights Stan
In retospect should have probably opted for Cook in lieu of McCarron myself. My reason for McCarron would be too embarrasing to post.LOL
I am also very keen on your Trip over McCarron also and will add that to match plays -120 @ Moneyplays.
Stan You wouldn't happen to have course stroke differientials handy would you.If not give me your guesstimate to compare with my take if you would please.Might play some rounders.Like Howell going off 1st @ Southern Hills.Good opp for a jump start.
Wish I had outs you have on Daly.I agree 100%.
I am also very keen on your Trip over McCarron also and will add that to match plays -120 @ Moneyplays.
Stan You wouldn't happen to have course stroke differientials handy would you.If not give me your guesstimate to compare with my take if you would please.Might play some rounders.Like Howell going off 1st @ Southern Hills.Good opp for a jump start.
Wish I had outs you have on Daly.I agree 100%.
Hi Guys,
It has been a crazy few weeks at work and I have barely had time to watch the golf let alone bet on it.
I really like a couple of the matchups posted above and will be having something on:
Mediate -120 vs Daly @ Camelot
Sutherland -120 vs Daly @ GC Sports
Triplett -123 vs McCarron @ Canbet
It has been a crazy few weeks at work and I have barely had time to watch the golf let alone bet on it.
I really like a couple of the matchups posted above and will be having something on:
Mediate -120 vs Daly @ Camelot
Sutherland -120 vs Daly @ GC Sports
Triplett -123 vs McCarron @ Canbet
