Weekend Big 12

Jayhawk_Thor

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Well, I've already posted my game of the year in another thread... so lets get onto the other ones. :com:


Iowa St. +4.5 (@KSU)
--- I believe Iowa St. wins this one outright. They have been terrible this season, but KSU is a very bad team... ISU has 10x the talent that the Cats have... I think McCarney makes the necesary adjustments to pull this one out...

Baylor +5 (TAMU)
--- Underrated at home vs. overrated on the road. Love these games.
Baylor will spread out the Aggies, and I think Bell is going to be able to nickle and dime them down the field throughout the game. The Bears have absolutely no running game... but they dont really need one with the passing attack... I think if Morriss feels like they need to run, they can mix that in as well.
TAMU is due for a down week... they cant keep pulling out these close ones... a play here and there and they are 0-4 in conference... their 3 wins there have all been tight, throughout... They havent convinced me they are a good team, and I use that term loosely.
Once again, I think Baylor wins outright.

Nebraska -5.5 (@OSU)
--- OSU is a young team that doesnt have the horses yet to hang in games with big-time teams, IMO. They dont have an impressive win yet this season.
The Huskers are still an underrated team, in my eyes. They would have beaten the Longhorns were it not for a late fumble, and if that hadnt occured this line would probably be -7 and above. So I think there is a little bit of value, here.
They have a balanced attack, and I think they keep the young Pokes off balance, and win by double figures.

Colorado +2 (@KU)
--- Just kill me. We are about to lose to a 1-7 team at home.
KU could win by 21 and I wouldnt be surprised, so let me preface with that... But there are legit reasons to take the points with CU:
1. Adam Barmann is starting. Bad, bad, bad quarterback. If CU knows what its doing, they will put pressure on him all game long and force him to hurry his throws... in which case the Hawks will have 5 TO's. Seriously.
2. The 2nd half implosions have taken a toll on the team... especially the defense, which has come under fire... they are young, so intead of getting fired up, its probably to the point of being demoralizing, now.
3. The campus has turned on the team. Really. Its sad, actually. I am probably the biggest fan that this team has on its campus... I have nothing to do on Saturday... and I gave up my ticket. I refuse to support this years team again by taking the time to go the stadium. I NEVER EVER thought I would do this... and by no means am I a fair weather fan... I wont support Mangino, and I wont support the '06 team again. Now imagine if an absolute die-hard fan is doing this, what will happen with the rest of the students/season ticket holders. The sports editor of The Kansan wrote a good article this week where he said he wouldnt go again this season either, and he expected many to follow that lead. In other words, Memorial Stadium is going to be dead.
4. I have a tip... that I absolutely promised my buddy I wouldnt divulge... he is a sports beat writer for The Kansan... he got a tip from someone he knows... if its true, it would rock college football... and would make perfect sense of a lot of things this year. I wont repeat it, I told him I wouldnt even tell my mother. I will tell you guys this, though: i wouldnt bet on this team under any circumstances the rest of the year. You dont necesarily need to bet against them, just dont bet on them. That is how strongly I feel about what I heard.
Long story short: 3rd upset I see this week in the Big 12.

I'm going to pass on the other games, for now. I have a slight lean towards Oklahoma... I might have a total play in the TT/Texas game.

Also... I discussed in another thread that I like to play pleasers... They are reverse-teasers for those that havent played them... you take two or more teams and have to give points instead of receiving, but you get sick odds...
Anyhow, I posted a theory about these plays: find small chalk that you think can win straight up... because, for instance, you need to tease 6 points. So a team that is +4.5 only need to win by 2 or more points to qualify.
Anyhow, I have made some money on these this year... so I told BLG I would post possible plays if I see them, especially inside the Big 12.
Here is my first posted pleaser:

Baylor -1/ Iowa St. -1.5. 25/150
--- I actually like this one quite a bit. I see both of these teams winning... and those are the types of lines that make for good pleaser betting.
But, for instance, even though I think Colorado will win... I dont believe that to be a good game to put in a pleaser. It should be a tight game, and I could easily see Colorado winning by 4 or less... but the odds arent very low that they run away with the game... so that isnt the type of game I would look for.

Anyhow, just posted that for those interested... they are very interesting bets... and you get very excited when they hit (especially with 3 or more teams).

Anyhow fellas... best of luck this weekend...
 

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GL Jayhawk

really like your strategy with the pleasers - kicking myself that i didnt "please" vatech with another small dog, just had a busy last couple of days

Will play that pleaser for shts and giggles, maybe to win up to 1 or 2 units.

GL this weekend my freind
 

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I won't say Ia State CAN"T win but "talent 10 x as good as K state". Are you talking about cheerleaders, fans, or something else? I am betting you can get McCarnival for a song in 6 weeks....
 

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FYI on your pleaser, I just plugged in Iowa State and Baylor on a ML parlay and got 7.5 to 1 odds... you don't lay points this way either.

IMO, Pleasers are nice because you get 6-1 odds, but you get almost 3-1 odds on a parlay so I don't think they're a great bet.

Also, I think it's sad you won't go to another game @ your school this season. Sure Kansas has endured the most horrid stretch of gut wrenching losses I have ever witnessed, but I still plan to be a fan and not fair weather, which is exactly what you are being Thor.
 
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Jayhawk_Thor

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FYI on your pleaser, I just plugged in Iowa State and Baylor on a ML parlay and got 7.5 to 1 odds... you don't lay points this way either.

IMO, Pleasers are nice because you get 6-1 odds, but you get almost 3-1 odds on a parlay so I don't think they're a great bet.

Also, I think it's sad you won't go to another game @ your school this season. Sure Kansas has endured the most horrid stretch of gut wrenching losses I have ever witnessed, but I still plan to be a fan and not fair weather, which is exactly what you are being Thor.

Thanks for the heads up on the parlay... Definately smarter play...

As for you calling me a fair weather fan... I don't look at it that way at all..
I am as intense a sports fan as you will see... and I love this team way too much (well, the school actually).
I got 3 hours of sleep when I woke up to go to the Texas A&M game... and after they blew that one, I had horrible stomach cramps, and the rest of my weekend was ruined.
Just listening to the Baylor game on the radio, I knocked over a small book shelf in my house and broke it. I also had heart burn the rest of the day.

For me... I cannot support a team without being 100% into them. I cannot support a team if it doesnt make me near sick to see them lose a game. This team has ruined my weekend either physically or mentally the last 4 weeks, and 5 of the last 6. I dont know what it is like to root for a team and then leave the stadium and forget about the game right away. I just dont... and I wish I did.

I cannot continue to go and give an emotional investment in a team that I care MORE about than THEY do. Its just stupid.

Two weeks ago I was in College Station when the Hawks played Oklahoma St. My buddy text messaged me the score at halftime. I smiled and told the person next to me that they were going to lose the game, and that person laughed. He texted me again with the final score and I was just disgusted. But more than anything, I was relieved that I wasnt in Memorial Stadium for that game, because I know what my reaction would have been, and I know I would have spent the rest of the day wondering why I cared so much about a team that is coached shoddily and played by a bunch of redshirt freshman and sophomores that dont really give a damn about the eventual outcome of the games.
After that, I decided to listen to the Baylor game... give them one more week to prove to me that they deserved my support as an absolute die-hard fan.

They dont.
 

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Certainly not trying to put you on the spot or stir
anything up, and would prefer you ignore my post,
but if these kids are collectively betting the farm
on the opposition, or 1H or 2H points etc. and
then laying down at the end of a half or game to
cover a spread, :scared
It would explain some of these bizarre endings.
Okie St scores 21 in third and another 21 in fourth
to cover, :scared
Again JT, not trying to stir anything up.
 

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Not sure if OSU truly qualifies since theirs took OT. Huge tweener situation for Huskers as well. I question how well they are gonna respond coming off of that loss.

And I think Fatgina gets a W tomorrow. I am also gonna play the land thieves.
 

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As to #4 in your post and your buddy, I've been around KU football for 40 yrs., many Q's about spreads in mid 80's when Frank Seuer was QB.
Nothing this yr. would surprise me!!
 

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I like the baylor/Iowa State ML parlay, imma rock that.

gl this week on your plays buddy.
 

Jayhawk_Thor

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In lue of new knowledge... I am going to ammend my pleaser theory a bit...


Dogs by 4 or lower that you expect to win... Dogs of 4.5-8 mine as well be put in a parlay instead... you are absolutely right, DD.

But getting say a 3.5 pt. dog and a 3 pt. dog... you tease them to -2.5, and -3, respectivally.. that is where the odds are better.

Also, taking big dogs that you expect to hang close is always a good theory...
A couple weeks ago I hit a nice one when Utah St. was +27.5 against Fresno St. and Wake Forest was +16.5 against some team I cant remember.
Utah St. ended up winning outright... and Wake lost by 10... That one is my biggest success yet, I had my largest pleaser wager on that one.

Anyhow, just thought I would add this.

Goodnight, moon.
 

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With you on your Huskers play. Also tailin' you & Sun on the Baylor game. I took the Sooners today...glad to see you're at least leaning that way. The way the JHawks have crushed our hearts lately is too much for me to go anywhere near their games any more. I just know what would happen if I put in a play on Colo.:mj07: I don't know what my fascination has been with the Big 12 lately ;) but always happy to see when you're on the same side. GL and continued success. :mj06:
 

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Thanks Trollin... I appreciate it...

With your NCAA record this year... I assure you it is much more assuring for ME to be on YOUR side!


I am kicking around the idea of going to the KU game. I dont know if my heart can take another brutal loss. We'll see... i sitll got an hour... :scared

GL today guys...
 

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Now if someone can please explain the concept of defense to Nebraska, I will start to feel pretty good about this weekend.
 
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