Hats off to Centrebet who have put up prices already not only on outright betting but for every first round match as well
WGC World Matchplay
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I wouldn't put anyone off the 33-1 offered by Surrey on Allenby he is as low as 14-1 in places, is the local player and was in form in Aus before Xmas finishing 1st and 2nd
AV2 where are youuuuuuuu?
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AV2 where are youuuuuuuu?
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Question Does 1st Stake pay 5 places E/W?
I fed-exed check the 22nd but they haven't gotten it yet evidently and I was going to bet token wager on Flesch at 33/1. They have same odds @ Sportingbet but only pay 4 places.
I fed-exed check the 22nd but they haven't gotten it yet evidently and I was going to bet token wager on Flesch at 33/1. They have same odds @ Sportingbet but only pay 4 places.
DTB
In a normal tournament they would but in this one it will only be 4 places ie: those that make the semifinals
In a normal tournament they would but in this one it will only be 4 places ie: those that make the semifinals
If you have had a bet be careful it has not been voided as withdrawals are still coming in (sandelin the latest) and we are now up to about 104 in the world rankings
Some books have withdrawn all their markets in the light that if there are many more withdrawals the top seeeds will be given a bye in the 1st round
Basically the whole event is turning into a farce and should never have been organised for the first week of January in Australia
(ps if Nolan Dalla ever gets down to these postings Womens golf does exist and is a good medium to bet in and make money
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Some books have withdrawn all their markets in the light that if there are many more withdrawals the top seeeds will be given a bye in the 1st round
Basically the whole event is turning into a farce and should never have been organised for the first week of January in Australia
(ps if Nolan Dalla ever gets down to these postings Womens golf does exist and is a good medium to bet in and make money
Has 1st Stake taken their lines down? Can't find any and sure can't bet into horrendous lines Sportingbet has up.
Don't know if account at 1st Stake will be active by tomorrow anyway.They acknowledged receiving Bank Cashiers Check on 28th BUT have to wait for it to clear.
Don't know if account at 1st Stake will be active by tomorrow anyway.They acknowledged receiving Bank Cashiers Check on 28th BUT have to wait for it to clear.
DTB
They took down their prices this morning along with betting on European OOM
Who are you looking at backing anyway? as Sportingbet still have Flesch at 33's but offer poor value on the longer shots
Books over here are confused and keep putting prices up and down one has even got Immelman at 20-1
They took down their prices this morning along with betting on European OOM
Who are you looking at backing anyway? as Sportingbet still have Flesch at 33's but offer poor value on the longer shots
Books over here are confused and keep putting prices up and down one has even got Immelman at 20-1
Bet Flecsh @ 33/1 E/W. Was looking at 2balls @ Sportingbet knowing they couldn't have ties lose but they adjusted the juice where it makes it almost impossible to bet.Hoping maybe some US books will line them today.
The 33-1 Allenby at Surrey has gone but that price is still available at Coral Eurobet
1st round matches
Victor Chandler make Taniguchi the outsider against Estes at +125 which is odd as the Japanese player is the higher ranked of the two and has a good match play record in Japan finishing runnerup the last 2 years in the Japanese matchplay tournament
The 150-1 about him in the outrights by Centrebet is a bit of an insult
1st round matches
Victor Chandler make Taniguchi the outsider against Estes at +125 which is odd as the Japanese player is the higher ranked of the two and has a good match play record in Japan finishing runnerup the last 2 years in the Japanese matchplay tournament
The 150-1 about him in the outrights by Centrebet is a bit of an insult
Hi guys! Nice to have a long break, pity about the flu bug currently rife in our household
Will post some 1st round plays in a while - still hoping the North Americans books won't boycott this event as well - but here's my preview for now
Two years ago five of the top-seven in the world rankings lost in the first round; this year only one will even tee up and that which such disdain that he will arrive in town the night before and will not have even looked at the course before teeing off. The timing and location of the event have been much criticized and the former is certainly justified, but as the overseas players have reported, there can be no complaints about the hosting of the event at Metropolitan. Lehman has compared the course to Augusta and Muirfield Village, no small praise indeed!
Local knowledge and acclimatization will be important this week and no-one is being touted more than local player, Robert Allenby who boasts 22 years of experience on this course. This has been reflects in the prices for this event, but as he admits, the emphasis will be on hitting fairways and finding the greens this week. This will not be a birdie-fest, but a touch challenge and the matchplay format only increases the importance of being patient and putting the pressure on your opponent by hitting the greens in regulation. Allenby's greens in regulation stats are not particularly impressive and he faces a tough 3rd round match against Hal Sutton (if fit), before playing Harrington or Leonard the following day. I favor Harrington to prevail and possibly win the event outright. He will not face a Southern Hemisphere until Allenby, so the local edge will be blunted, plus he has a good matchplay record as a pro and an amateur and has a game suited to this course.
In the lower half of the draw, the other outright pick is Bob May. He boasts a 5th place finish at the Vines in the Heineken Classic last year - his only recent outing in Australia - but he travels well and finished 2nd and 4th in two events in Japan at the end of November. His only hurdle before the 4th round could be Maruyama, but the result will be a match will the winner of the "eighth of death" which includes Singh, Taniguchi, Flesch and Appleby. May could face a tired opponent and a semi-final place will secure at least a place win.
In the top half of the draw, Michael Campbell looks the play. His toughest match should come in the 2nd round against Izawa who has been very impressive on the Japan Tour. Other than that match, I cannot see anyone else blocking his way to the semi-finals. He has the best overall stats of anyone in this week's field and does not have the problem of acclimatization to contend with. A Campbell-Harrington final is my prediction for the week!
In the top quarter, I do think that Els is vulnerable to an early defeat. If Tanaka does not beat the under-prepared South African, then Waldorf has every much a chance. The winner of that match will play for a semi-final place - and hence a place win - against the winner from the weakest eighth which boasts only Coltart, Huston and Parry at best. The 100/1 on offer for Waldorf @ DAS is very tempting, but in line with normal practice, three outright plays will be made and Waldorf is passed over.
Outright plays:
Padraig Harrington to win 33/1 e/w @ Surrey
Bob May to win 66/1 e/w @ DAS
Michael Campbell to win 18/1 e/w @ Sportingbet or Simon Bold
Will post some 1st round plays in a while - still hoping the North Americans books won't boycott this event as well - but here's my preview for now
Two years ago five of the top-seven in the world rankings lost in the first round; this year only one will even tee up and that which such disdain that he will arrive in town the night before and will not have even looked at the course before teeing off. The timing and location of the event have been much criticized and the former is certainly justified, but as the overseas players have reported, there can be no complaints about the hosting of the event at Metropolitan. Lehman has compared the course to Augusta and Muirfield Village, no small praise indeed!
Local knowledge and acclimatization will be important this week and no-one is being touted more than local player, Robert Allenby who boasts 22 years of experience on this course. This has been reflects in the prices for this event, but as he admits, the emphasis will be on hitting fairways and finding the greens this week. This will not be a birdie-fest, but a touch challenge and the matchplay format only increases the importance of being patient and putting the pressure on your opponent by hitting the greens in regulation. Allenby's greens in regulation stats are not particularly impressive and he faces a tough 3rd round match against Hal Sutton (if fit), before playing Harrington or Leonard the following day. I favor Harrington to prevail and possibly win the event outright. He will not face a Southern Hemisphere until Allenby, so the local edge will be blunted, plus he has a good matchplay record as a pro and an amateur and has a game suited to this course.
In the lower half of the draw, the other outright pick is Bob May. He boasts a 5th place finish at the Vines in the Heineken Classic last year - his only recent outing in Australia - but he travels well and finished 2nd and 4th in two events in Japan at the end of November. His only hurdle before the 4th round could be Maruyama, but the result will be a match will the winner of the "eighth of death" which includes Singh, Taniguchi, Flesch and Appleby. May could face a tired opponent and a semi-final place will secure at least a place win.
In the top half of the draw, Michael Campbell looks the play. His toughest match should come in the 2nd round against Izawa who has been very impressive on the Japan Tour. Other than that match, I cannot see anyone else blocking his way to the semi-finals. He has the best overall stats of anyone in this week's field and does not have the problem of acclimatization to contend with. A Campbell-Harrington final is my prediction for the week!
In the top quarter, I do think that Els is vulnerable to an early defeat. If Tanaka does not beat the under-prepared South African, then Waldorf has every much a chance. The winner of that match will play for a semi-final place - and hence a place win - against the winner from the weakest eighth which boasts only Coltart, Huston and Parry at best. The 100/1 on offer for Waldorf @ DAS is very tempting, but in line with normal practice, three outright plays will be made and Waldorf is passed over.
Outright plays:
Padraig Harrington to win 33/1 e/w @ Surrey
Bob May to win 66/1 e/w @ DAS
Michael Campbell to win 18/1 e/w @ Sportingbet or Simon Bold
Decided to back O'Hern at +125 to see off Sutton (the line has been dropping all day)
The line is still dropping Firststake/Sportingodds have cut O'Hern from +110 to -120
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The line is still dropping Firststake/Sportingodds have cut O'Hern from +110 to -120
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Sorry took this long to get back.Tried to find article at copy it but its gone and can't relocate.Said he tore muscle in back and was VERY doubtful he would go.
1st round plays:
Padraig Harrington to beat Steve Stricker -150 @ Simon Bold
Kirk Triplett to beat Glen Day -125 @ DAS
Toshimitsu Izawa to beat Steve Pate +138 @ Victor Chandler [3 units]
Chris DiMarco to beat Paul Lawrie +110 @ Simon Bold
Duffy Waldorf to beat Jean van de Velde -138 @ First Stake [3 units]
Chris Perry to beat Jonathan Kaye -143 @ DAS [2 units]
Jose Coceres to beat Brad Faxon +110 @ Simon Bold [2 units]
Steve Flesch to beat Per-Ulrik Johansson -137 @ Easybets
Tom Lehman to beat Greg Chalmers -133 @ DAS
Hidemichi Tanaka to beat Bernhard Langer +120 @ Centrebet
Toru Taniguchi to beat Bob Estes +100 @ William Hill
The BBC site did report earlier today that Sutton will start
Padraig Harrington to beat Steve Stricker -150 @ Simon Bold
Kirk Triplett to beat Glen Day -125 @ DAS
Toshimitsu Izawa to beat Steve Pate +138 @ Victor Chandler [3 units]
Chris DiMarco to beat Paul Lawrie +110 @ Simon Bold
Duffy Waldorf to beat Jean van de Velde -138 @ First Stake [3 units]
Chris Perry to beat Jonathan Kaye -143 @ DAS [2 units]
Jose Coceres to beat Brad Faxon +110 @ Simon Bold [2 units]
Steve Flesch to beat Per-Ulrik Johansson -137 @ Easybets
Tom Lehman to beat Greg Chalmers -133 @ DAS
Hidemichi Tanaka to beat Bernhard Langer +120 @ Centrebet
Toru Taniguchi to beat Bob Estes +100 @ William Hill
The BBC site did report earlier today that Sutton will start
Five Dimes finally have their lines up for the 1st round - starts in less than a hour
- and nothing better the odds above, though some come close (Waldorf, Perry, Tanaka, Taniguchi)
sorry Ian, drop me an email if I disappear
was actually on holidays, spent a few days at parentals with very limited net access
was actually on holidays, spent a few days at parentals with very limited net access
Nice start to new season
Taniguchi bt Estes
O'Hern bt Sutton
2-0 +2.5
Prices for 2nd round already appearing
Hills make O"Hern underdog at +100 against Herron which could be interesting as can back Herron at +110 elsewhere
Taniguchi bt Estes
O'Hern bt Sutton
2-0 +2.5
Prices for 2nd round already appearing
Hills make O"Hern underdog at +100 against Herron which could be interesting as can back Herron at +110 elsewhere
1st round update: 5-6-0 and -1.92 units
Not the start to the year I was hoping for: a losing day and my first taste of hate mail for my picks
Was looking quite grim at one stage with early losses for Harrington, Triplett, DiMarco and Waldorf, but my Japanese triumvirate of dogs all pulled through to show the reward to homework. Elsewhere, Perry and Lehman won, but Coceres and Flesch did not. In the outrights, Harrington's loss was a blow, but at least May and Campbell were convincing winners. Just need one of them to win three more matches to wipe out the opening day blues
There will be three picks for the 3rd round: Retief Goosen to beat Jean van de Velde; Chris Perry to beat Brad Faxon; and Bob May to beat Shigeki Maruyama. Just waiting on the best lines to come out.
Nice start Ian
Not the start to the year I was hoping for: a losing day and my first taste of hate mail for my picks
Was looking quite grim at one stage with early losses for Harrington, Triplett, DiMarco and Waldorf, but my Japanese triumvirate of dogs all pulled through to show the reward to homework. Elsewhere, Perry and Lehman won, but Coceres and Flesch did not. In the outrights, Harrington's loss was a blow, but at least May and Campbell were convincing winners. Just need one of them to win three more matches to wipe out the opening day blues
There will be three picks for the 3rd round: Retief Goosen to beat Jean van de Velde; Chris Perry to beat Brad Faxon; and Bob May to beat Shigeki Maruyama. Just waiting on the best lines to come out.
Nice start Ian
