What do you mostly want from a sportsbook?

What do you mostly want from a sportsbook?

  • Internet betting

    Votes: 22 75.9%
  • Phone betting

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Quick payouts

    Votes: 16 55.2%
  • Free payouts

    Votes: 16 55.2%
  • Bonuses

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Ease of deposit

    Votes: 19 65.5%
  • Halftime bets

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • Early lines

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • In game betting

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • Hign limits

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .

StevieD

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I could be wrong but I copied this from a bitcoin atm. Of which none are in my state.

Anyway check fees. As I read it it says there is a 14.8% fee for using the ATM. That does not sound good.Add that to the normal vig on a bet and any payout fee and you have to hit about 75% to break even.

What am I missing?


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If you believe in "Crypto currency," Bitcoin may be the way to go.


What would worry me is the $1000 you have in the sportsbook, upon cashing out, may be worth less or more than $1000. Guess since you are gambling, it adds another gamble upon cash out.



Here is a good short Bitcoin read...


Factors that affect the price

Now let's try to find out what factors affect the growth of the Bitcoin price. The price of any currency or commodity, as it is known, is determined by supply and demand.

The first factor that affects the price of Bitcoin, in our opinion, is its limitations, both in quantity and in production time. The total number of Bitcoins has long been known ? only 21 million.

Thus, the time at which newly created or mined Bitcoins will be available is predictable, and the production rate is decreasing. This factor has a positive impact on Bitcoin and contributes to its growth.

The second factor is the belief in the price of Bitcoin rising to unlimited levels: $ 10,000, $ 1,000,000 and above.

The third factor is the use of Bitcoin as a payment system to transfer money from one point to another.

The fourth factor is the trust of the people. In recent years, more and more people are interested in cryptocurrency and tend to buy it.
More and more companies and merchants accept Bitcoin as a means of payment. This factor also contributes to the growth of Bitcoin.
The fifth factor is the recognition of Bitcoin as a means of payment and investment in it by different governments.

As well as growing legal acceptance, regulation and the acquiring of official status in countries worldwide.

The sixth factor contributing to the strengthening of Bitcoin?s price is its independence from the macroeconomic indicators of the leading countries of the world.

Their national currencies are fluctuating due to the quality of state statistics, but such news has almost no effect on the Bitcoin price.

Now let us consider the factors that actually do affect the price of Bitсoin and may contribute to its decrease. We all know that there is no absolutely reliable currency in the world. So why are we witnessing periodic Bitcoin price decline in the market?

Bitcoin is the the same financial instrument on the currency marketthere all other currencies, stocks, bonds, etc. In other words, it is a commodity that has always been sold and bought.

Since the advent of Bitcoin it has proven to be reliable, but that does not change its exposure to fluctuations that are inherent in the foreign exchange market.

Bitcoin price fluctuations may be caused by searches for the optimal price that are done between buyers and sellers.

Handling Bitcoin exchanges is limited and does not require large amounts of money so it has no major influence on the Bitcoin price. It is enough for one buyer to purchase a large number of Bitcoins to make the market react instantly by increasing prices.

Or, conversely, a large volume of sold Bitcoins will cause a sharp decline in its price.

Change in the price of Bitcoin depends on credibility from the people. Any negative information about Bitcoin could trigger a sharp decline in its price.

Bitcoin has many other competitors from the cryptocurrency family. These cryptocurrency?s success on the stock exchange and the growth of their value could affect the price of Bitcoin.
 

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not the issue here..sorry about that.
 

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I guess the very first part I don't understand is where you buy $1000 worth of Bitcoin for $1000. It SEEMS to me that $1000 worth of Bitcoin currently costs MUCH more than $1000 through an exchange, or is there somewhere else to get them? Forget Ebay, Looks like the current value of (1) Bitcoin is $640, on EBAY you can buy HALF of a Bitcoin for $394 and the are selling well at that price. So, I have to pay $788 for a Bitcoin that is worth $640.

I'm assuming when I deposit that Bitcoin in a sportsbook I get the current value in USD which is $640 so I am already behind $148. Assuming it doesn't change in value and I don't pay any fees along the way I'm already 19% behind the line.

Beating the 10% juice is tough enough.

You will be buying $1000 worth of bitcoin and getting $1000 worth of bitcoin. I can't even come close to explaining right now but will tomorrow. Forget paying crazy fees, you'll be paying close to no fees at all.
 

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If you believe in "Crypto currency," Bitcoin may be the way to go.


What would worry me is the $1000 you have in the sportsbook, upon cashing out, may be worth less or more than $1000. Guess since you are gambling, it adds another gamble upon cash out.

This is not the case. You buy the bitcoin and transfer to the sportsbook, they immediately credit your account and sell off the bitcoin. Nobody is investing in bitcoin because nobody is owning it for more than an hour or 2, or even minutes.
 

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This is not the case. You buy the bitcoin and transfer to the sportsbook, they immediately credit your account and sell off the bitcoin. Nobody is investing in bitcoin because nobody is owning it for more than an hour or 2, or even minutes.

I can't explain it well. The bitcoin you buy will only be owned for a very brief time. Once you transfer to the book it goes in your account and the book converts the bitcoin to USD. This is not an investment, it's just a vehicle to move the funds.
 

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Ease of deposit like the old days. Not a credit card. Neteller or PayPal again please haha.

No bonuses.

Ease of withdrawal the same as the deposit.

Nice internet interface that is easy to navigate.
 

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Bonuses are okay if you're gonna use that book for a whole NFL season or whatever. If you're going to use the book for an extended time, nothing wrong with rollover. No book is gonna double your deposit amount then let you withdrawal it. That would be free money for nothing. If you're using 3-4-5 books it's good to move your money in and out when you want/need the money to bring back a balance in a book where you lost. No bonus = total control of YOUR own money.
 

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Easy to deposit and easy to withdraw
need contests, for college and pro football

Main things for me
 

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I could have guessed what's important, but I'd like to have more votes. Nobody can see your votes, including me, so vote. :shrug:

People are so lazy today it's a pain in the ass to click.
 

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361 views and 15 voters. WTF is the point of trying? :facepalm:

Seriously?
 

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I have a list of about 20 different things I look for at a Sportsbook, but more importantly if any of these take place at a Sportsbook I won't play there:

- If you place a parlay bet on say 3 NFL Football point spread bets at -110 odds the odds for the parlay are +597. If there is some chart telling you the odds are less then that, then don't play there, they are ripping you off. Of course if you never bet a parlay then it doesn't matter.

- If a Sportsbook has "All Bets are Action" for Golf or Tennis Outright bets, then don't play there, it is a scummy rule. If you bet on a golfer to win the tournament and the golfer never tees off your bet should be void. If they have a that scummy rule then your bet loses. And to take it a step further there are many Sportsbooks that know an athlete isn't participating in an event yet still leave that line up in order to scam clients. Never play at a Sportsbook that does this, sadly many do. Bottom line if a Sportsbook is going to plain as day scam you, why would you play there? This happens all the time with outright bets in tennis and golf. They know the athlete isn't participating yet leave the line up so somebody can bet on it and they can make easy money. Never play at a Sportsbook that does this.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't allow you to parlay tennis or mma I don't play there.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't offer you at least one free Bank Wire withdrawal per month I do not play there.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't give you the option to view odds in decimal format I do not play there.

- There is a stupid tennis rule that some Sportsbooks have for over/under and game spread betting if they have this rule I don't play there. I won't bore anybody with the rule because 97 percent of Madjackers don't bet on tennis.

- If a Sportsbook takes 100 days to respond to an e-mail I won't play there.


Since this thread is almost all about deposit/withdrawal stuff I will say this.....

I walk to gas station, get voucher for about 300 US dollars (pay small fee of about 3 US dollars for voucher) deposit funds into Sportsbook account, bam money in account. I should also mention I get "air miles" for the voucher, wooo hooo! Three days later I make withdrawal from that Sportsbook. About 36-48 hours money is in my bank account and NO FEE is charged. I use 4 Sportsbooks that do this, and some have put money into my bank account in less then a day. Make deposit (for practically nothing) and make withdrawal for zero fees, now that is how it should always be done. Now keep in mind I will pay a fee for W/U or MG withdrawals but that is only when I exhausted my "one/two free bank wire" withdrawals. Most Sportsbooks will give you 1 or 2 free ones. But as I said above if a Sportsbook doesn't give you at least one free Bank Wire withdrawal I won't play there. Oh and there are some Sportsbooks that will give you one free W/U or MG withdrawal a month, but those are rare.


Some other stuff I look for..........

- Grade bets fast.

- Quick response to e-mails

- If you have a parlay wager pending it shows what bets have already been graded.

- If you have a parlay wager pending and if a bet is pushed in that parlay it is recalculated in the "pending bets" screen.

- Easy to print "pending wagers", yes sounds easy, sadly at many Sportsbooks it isn't.
 

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I have a list of about 20 different things I look for at a Sportsbook, but more importantly if any of these take place at a Sportsbook I won't play there:

- If you place a parlay bet on say 3 NFL Football point spread bets at -110 odds the odds for the parlay are +597. If there is some chart telling you the odds are less then that, then don't play there, they are ripping you off. Of course if you never bet a parlay then it doesn't matter.

- If a Sportsbook has "All Bets are Action" for Golf or Tennis Outright bets, then don't play there, it is a scummy rule. If you bet on a golfer to win the tournament and the golfer never tees off your bet should be void. If they have a that scummy rule then your bet loses. And to take it a step further there are many Sportsbooks that know an athlete isn't participating in an event yet still leave that line up in order to scam clients. Never play at a Sportsbook that does this, sadly many do. Bottom line if a Sportsbook is going to plain as day scam you, why would you play there? This happens all the time with outright bets in tennis and golf. They know the athlete isn't participating yet leave the line up so somebody can bet on it and they can make easy money. Never play at a Sportsbook that does this.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't allow you to parlay tennis or mma I don't play there.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't offer you at least one free Bank Wire withdrawal per month I do not play there.

- If a Sportsbook doesn't give you the option to view odds in decimal format I do not play there.

- There is a stupid tennis rule that some Sportsbooks have for over/under and game spread betting if they have this rule I don't play there. I won't bore anybody with the rule because 97 percent of Madjackers don't bet on tennis.

- If a Sportsbook takes 100 days to respond to an e-mail I won't play there.


Since this thread is almost all about deposit/withdrawal stuff I will say this.....

I walk to gas station, get voucher for about 300 US dollars (pay small fee of about 3 US dollars for voucher) deposit funds into Sportsbook account, bam money in account. I should also mention I get "air miles" for the voucher, wooo hooo! Three days later I make withdrawal from that Sportsbook. About 36-48 hours money is in my bank account and NO FEE is charged. I use 4 Sportsbooks that do this, and some have put money into my bank account in less then a day. Make deposit (for practically nothing) and make withdrawal for zero fees, now that is how it should always be done. Now keep in mind I will pay a fee for W/U or MG withdrawals but that is only when I exhausted my "one/two free bank wire" withdrawals. Most Sportsbooks will give you 1 or 2 free ones. But as I said above if a Sportsbook doesn't give you at least one free Bank Wire withdrawal I won't play there. Oh and there are some Sportsbooks that will give you one free W/U or MG withdrawal a month, but those are rare.


Some other stuff I look for..........

- Grade bets fast.

- Quick response to e-mails

- If you have a parlay wager pending it shows what bets have already been graded.

- If you have a parlay wager pending and if a bet is pushed in that parlay it is recalculated in the "pending bets" screen.

- Easy to print "pending wagers", yes sounds easy, sadly at many Sportsbooks it isn't.

Thank you.

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