What exactly has Bush accomplished in 4 years?

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I open this thread up for serious debate. My contention is that this country is in much worse shape than when he took office. Please don't post links, as most people don't take the time to read them. Among the many reasons I will not be voting for him are:

He mislead the American public to go to war with Iraq.

He had know plan in Iraq and it is a complete abortion right now.

Never finished the Job in Afghanistan. That country is now unstable again, and the few troops we have there are little more than sitting ducks.

Osama Bin Laden: The only American mass murderer who continues to fly under the Bush Radar. You'd think as much as Bush liked to juice death row people in Texas, Osama would have warranted a little more interest. Maybe it's because of his families ties with Osamas family? Maybe a personal favor?

Letting all of those Saudis fly out after 9/11 when you or I could not fly to florida.

Iraqi Prison scandal

Outing of a CIA operative by one of his administration. This is treason and he let it slide.

Not caring about Alqaeda when he took office, ignoring briefings on the threat.

Turning a surplus into a monstrous deficit with his tax plans that help his rich friends.
 

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Bush's economic record.

Bush's economic record.

2,931,000
Number of jobs lost in the private sector since Bush took office.

135,000
Average number of jobs created monthly under every President since Truman.

-79,189
Average number of jobs created monthly under Bush.

2,447,000
Number of people who have become unemployed since Bush took office.

37 percent
Increase in the unemployment rate since Bush took office.

4.1 percent
Unemployment rate when Bush took office in January 2001.

5.6 percent
Unemployment rate in March 2004.

8,170,000
Total number of unemployed Americans.

675,000
Number of Americans experiencing long-term unemployment (27 weeks or more) when Bush took office in January 2001.

1,871,000
Number of Americans suffering long-term unemployment in March 2004.

177 percent
Increase in long-term unemployment under Bush.

11.8 percent
Percentage of consumers who believe jobs are plentiful.

760,000
Number of workers who have lost their unemployment insurance since December 2002.

Ballooning Deficits
$5.6 trillion
Baseline surplus for the 10-year period for FY 2002-2011, as projected by the Congressional Budget Office when Bush took office in January 2001.

$5.2 trillion
Budget deficit over next 10 years if Bush's 2005 budget proposal is enacted.

$2.4 trillion
Amount Bush's budget will raid from the Social Security and Medicare trust funds over the next 10 years.

$478 billion
Budget deficit for 2004 as predicted by CBO, if Bush' s proposals are enacted.

$188 billion
Amount Bush's budget deficit for 2004 exceeds the highest budget deficit in history, which was posted in 1992 by Bush's father.

Bush's 2003 "Jobs and Growth" Plan
$2.2 trillion
Ten-year cost of Bush's proposed tax cuts including additional costs for interest on the national debt.

32.4 percent
Percent of tax cut for the top 1 percent of wage earners under the Bush "growth" plan.

8.5 percent
Percent of tax cuts for the bottom 60 percent of wage earners under the Bush "growth" plan.

64 million
Number of taxpayers (48 percent) who receive $100 or less under the Bush "growth" plan.

$30,127
Average tax cut for the top 1 percent of taxpayers under the Bush "growth" plan.

$289
Average tax cut for the middle 20 percent of taxpayers under the Bush "growth" plan.

$4-5 billion
Amount Bush tax proposal would cost states.

1 million
Number of taxpayers the Alternative Minimum Tax affected in 1999.

36 million
Number of taxpayers the Alternative Minimum Tax will affect in 2010 because of Bush's tax cuts and his failure to address the AMT.

Lower Income, Rising Costs
1.1 percent
Decrease in real median household income in 2002.

10 percent
Increase in bankruptcies since Bush took office.

1,625,213
Number of consumers who filed for bankruptcy in 2003.

24 percent
Drop in consumer confidence since Bush took office.

50 percent
Increase in out-of-pocket health care costs for workers since Bush took office.

14 percent
Increase in the cost of job-based health insurance in 2003; highest rate in 13 years.

8.7 percent
Increase in the cost of the 10 most-used prescription drugs in 2003.

61 percent
Percent of employers who cited rising drug costs as a major cause of premium increases in 2003.

11.5 percent
Increase in gas prices since 2000.

49
Number of states that increased tuition at their public colleges and universities in 2003. State budget cuts fueled by the Bush recession have forced colleges to hike tuitions and fees-threatening access to higher education for low-income students.

35 percent
Increase in tuition and fees at four-year public institutions since Bush took office, adjusted for inflation.
 
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Less Iraquis and Americans were dieing when they werent soveriegn. That country is an absolute disaster.
 
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Nothing is the real answer to your question. However this time he says he has new answers. He may just win because enough folks dont read.
 

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MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE KNOW WHAT BUSH IS. BUT GREED AND IGNORANCE ARE POWERFUL FEELINGS THAT CLOUD COMMON SENSE.

SOME PEOPLE JUST WONT EVER LEARN. AH WELL BEST OF LUCK
 

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I LOVE WR said:
MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE KNOW WHAT BUSH IS. BUT GREED AND IGNORANCE ARE POWERFUL FEELINGS THAT CLOUD COMMON SENSE.

SOME PEOPLE JUST WONT EVER LEARN. AH WELL BEST OF LUCK



your opinion mean nothing , you can't vote

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At the start of his Administration, President George W. Bush made clear his objective to citizens and taxpayers, "We are here to make progress, we are not here to mark time."

President Bush has used his time in office to make remarkable progress. He has charted a bold course and established a record of accomplishment and far-reaching results for the American people. From taxes to the economy, from homeland security to national defense, from improving education to ensuring better health care for seniors, President Bush has worked with Congress to bring higher expectations of Government, greater accountability, better service, and more freedom and choice for American citizens.

As the world has seen over the past few years, the American people do not face the future with fear; they embrace the challenges of the future because they know that America is capable of overcoming them. With three-and a- half years of results, the American people know the foundation has been set for even greater things to come.

Over the next four years, President Bush will continue to pursue a bold agenda of reform and change. He will build on a solid foundation of accomplishment to bring about a safer world and a more hopeful America. In this way, President Bush will continue to show that, as Ronald Reagan said, "for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead."
 

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Jobs & The Economy
The economy is strong and getting stronger. The President?s pro-growth policies have helped drive the economy and move the recovery forward, putting more money in the pockets of America?s families and laying a foundation for robust growth and job creation now and for years to come.
 

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* The Economy Line: Increased Earnings For Workers 9/16/2004

* Policy Memo: Point-by-Point Rebuttal of John Kerry's Economy Column in the Wall Street Journal 9/15/2004

* Remarks by Bush-Cheney '04 Campaign Manager Ken Mehlman and Policy Director Tim Adams Regarding John Kerry's Economic Policy Speech 9/15/2004

* Policy Memo: Economic Comparisons of August 1996 and August 2004 9/15/2004

* The Economy Line: Positive Hiring Forecast 9/14/2004

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Jobs & The Economy

?America?s economy is getting stronger. I am optimistic about our future, not only because of what I see today, but because of what I know we have overcome.?

-President George W. Bush, Remarks at Central Piedmont Community College, Charlotte, North Carolina, April 5, 2004

Strengthening the Economy ? The economy is strong and getting stronger. The President?s pro-growth policies have helped drive the economy and move the recovery forward, putting more money in the pockets of America?s families and laying a foundation for robust growth and job creation now and for years to come.

* The economy has grown 4.8% in the past year, as fast as any year in nearly two decades.
* Productivity grew at the fastest 3-year rate in more than 50 years.

Providing bold and active leadership to end the recession and helping people find work ? From 2000 to 2003, America?s economy experienced an unprecedented combination of shocks: the stock market bubble bursting; an economic recession; the terrorist attacks of September 11th and subsequent War on Terror including the war in Iraq; and the discovery of corporate accounting scandals, years in the making, that undermined confidence in corporate America. President Bush acted promptly and aggressively to address these shocks. He enacted tax relief to help America?s workers by putting more money in family pockets while encouraging businesses to grow and invest. The President?s tax relief allowed families to keep more of what they earn by cutting tax rates across the board, doubling the child credit to $1,000 and reducing the marriage penalty. For America?s small businesses, the President?s tax relief reduced tax rates, quadrupled small business expensing and phased out the death tax.

* According to an analysis conducted by the Treasury Department after the tax relief was implemented last year, economic growth would have been more than 3 percent lower and 2 million fewer Americans would have been working at the end of last year.

Creating Jobs ? The President acted decisively to help create jobs and get Americans back to work. Just one year after the President signed the Jobs & Growth bill, there is widespread evidence his policies have worked.

* Since last August, over 1.5 million new jobs have been created.
* The unemployment rate has fallen from 6.3 to 5.6 percent, below the average of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.
* This job growth is widespread ? employment over the last year was up in 41 of the 50 states, and the unemployment rate was down in 47 of the 50 states.

Raising America?s standard of living ? The President?s economic policies have allowed Americans to weather the stock market bubble, the recession, the terrorist attacks and the corporate scandals, and have resulted in higher incomes and living standards for American workers.

* Real after-tax incomes are up by 11 percent since December 2000. This increase is mostly due to the President?s tax relief and is substantially better than those following the last recession.
* Homeownership rates are at record levels ? nearly seven out of ten American families own their own home today.
* Household wealth is near a record high.
* Consumer confidence is up from the levels seen at this time last year and is in the upper third of its historical range.
* Inflation remains low by historical standards, as do mortgage rates.

Helping prepare workers for 21st Century jobs ? Many of the new jobs being created require new skills. The President is committed to helping American workers acquire the skills necessary to access higher-paying jobs. His budget commits $23 billion for job training and employment assistance in programs throughout the government. He has proposed more than $500 million for his Jobs for the 21st Century initiative to help prepare U.S. workers to take advantage of the better skilled, higher-paying jobs of the future. This initiative includes $250 million for America?s community colleges to train workers for industries that are creating new jobs today, as well as funding for new secondary education programs to better prepare high school students for the jobs of the 21st Century.

More work to be done ? The President's policies are working, but he will not rest until every American who wants to work can find a job. The President has outlined a six-point plan to reduce costs to America?s job creators and guarantee that America remains the best place in the world to do business. His plan includes making health care costs more affordable and predictable; reducing the burden of frivolous lawsuits on our economy; ensuring an affordable, reliable energy supply; streamlining regulations and paperwork requirements; and opening new markets for American products and services. Finally, the President proposes making the tax cuts permanent to enable families and businesses to plan for the future with confidence and certainty.

The choice for America ? We can move forward with the President?s pro-growth economic policies that are creating jobs, increasing incomes and opening new markets for American goods. Or, we can go back to the tired old policies of tax and spend, economic isolationism and economic pessimism ? a proven recipe for economic disaster. America cannot afford to return to the failed policies of the past ? raising taxes on American families and small businesses will only hurt economic recovery and future job creation. We must continue to move forward with pro-growth policies that are growing our economy and fueling the creation of new jobs.
 

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Frequently Asked Questions


Does the Administration support outsourcing?

* The President is concerned about the loss of any job. His priority is to focus on creating jobs in this country, while ensuring that American workers have the skills they need to access those jobs.
* That is why he three times led the Congress to pass major tax relief bills to help the economy create more jobs, and why he has worked to open foreign markets to American made goods and services. Those policies are working. Tax burdens are down and exports are up. We have seen 1.5 million jobs created since August, while exports have grown at their fastest rate in almost a decade.
* With job creation accelerating, the President believes it is critical to ensure American workers have the skills they need to access those jobs. The President?s budget calls for $23 billion to be spent on job training programs throughout the government next year.
* The President will not allow the United States to retreat into economic isolationism. American workers and American products are the best in the world, and the President has acted aggressively to open foreign markets to U.S. products and services. Today, 12 million American jobs depend on exports.
* Open trade with the world encourages foreign companies to locate their plants here and to hire American workers. Foreign firms provide paychecks to 6.4 million Americans. Increased foreign investment means more factories and more jobs.
* A retreat into economic isolationism would jeopardize these jobs. The answer to outsourcing is to make Americans more competitive in the global marketplace, not isolate ourselves from it. The President?s pro-growth and job training polices are helping American companies and workers to do just that.

Where did the jobs go?

* Nearly 70 percent of the job loss we have experienced occurred during the 2001 recession and immediately after the attacks of September 11th. The attacks were a serious blow to our economy, closing the New York Stock Exchange for nearly a week and shutting down U.S. airspace for the first time ever. In the three months after September 11th, the economy lost nearly one million jobs.
* We are also living in a changing economy. Much of our job growth will be found in high-skilled fields like health care and biotechnology. So the President is responding by helping more Americans gain the skills necessary to find good jobs in our new economy. He proposed more than $500 million for his Jobs for the 21st Century initiative to help train U.S. workers for industries that are creating the most new jobs.

How does cutting taxes create jobs?

* First, the President?s tax relief allowed American families to keep more of what they earn. When families have more money to spend, they will demand a good or service in the market place. When there is more demand, businesses have to produce more goods and services, and they are more likely to hire additional workers.
* Second, by cutting rates, President Bush reduced the tax burden on the 90 percent of small businesses organized as S corporations, partnerships or sole proprietorships and who pay their taxes at the individual income tax rates. Small businesses create 7 out of 10 jobs in our economy. Cutting marginal income tax rates allows small businesses ? America?s job creators ? to invest more of their money in their businesses to expand and create more jobs.
* Third, the President?s tax relief gave America?s businesses, large and small, an increased incentive to make the investments they need to stay competitive and to create more jobs. His tax relief quadrupled the limit on small business expensing to $100,000 and offered larger businesses 50 percent bonus depreciation. These tax provisions reduce businesses? upfront costs when they purchase new computers, trucks and other equipment to make their employees more productive. More productive employees means higher wages and more job opportunities for the companies that make the new equipment.
 

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Where did the jobs go?

* Nearly 70 percent of the job loss we have experienced occurred during the 2001 recession and immediately after the attacks of September 11th. The attacks were a serious blow to our economy, closing the New York Stock Exchange for nearly a week and shutting down U.S. airspace for the first time ever. In the three months after September 11th, the economy lost nearly one million jobs.
* We are also living in a changing economy. Much of our job growth will be found in high-skilled fields like health care and biotechnology. So the President is responding by helping more Americans gain the skills necessary to find good jobs in our new economy. He proposed more than $500 million for his Jobs for the 21st Century initiative to help train U.S. workers for industries that are creating the most new jobs.

How does cutting taxes create jobs?

* First, the President?s tax relief allowed American families to keep more of what they earn. When families have more money to spend, they will demand a good or service in the market place. When there is more demand, businesses have to produce more goods and services, and they are more likely to hire additional workers.
* Second, by cutting rates, President Bush reduced the tax burden on the 90 percent of small businesses organized as S corporations, partnerships or sole proprietorships and who pay their taxes at the individual income tax rates. Small businesses create 7 out of 10 jobs in our economy. Cutting marginal income tax rates allows small businesses ? America?s job creators ? to invest more of their money in their businesses to expand and create more jobs.
* Third, the President?s tax relief gave America?s businesses, large and small, an increased incentive to make the investments they need to stay competitive and to create more jobs. His tax relief quadrupled the limit on small business expensing to $100,000 and offered larger businesses 50 percent bonus depreciation. These tax provisions reduce businesses? upfront costs when they purchase new computers, trucks and other equipment to make their employees more productive. More productive employees means higher wages and more job opportunities for the companies that make the new equipment.

Some argue that the new jobs being created are replacing good paying jobs with low paying jobs. Is that true?

* There is no data to support this claim. The data only tells us what industries produced jobs and we know that over the past several months, we?ve seen across-the-board growth in the various sectors, including traditionally high-paying sectors such as information, construction, financial activities and professional and business services.
* Total compensation ? wages and benefits ? has increased 3.8% during the last year.

What is the difference between the payroll survey and the household survey of unemployment?

* Both the payroll survey and the household survey contain valuable information about economic conditions but there are more important differences. While the payroll survey is larger, it also excludes many areas of job growth such as new business startups and the self-employed. The household survey may do a better job of capturing these areas of job creation.
* Most important, however, is what they have in common ? both surveys indicate that the economy has turned around and jobs are on the rise. According to the payroll survey, we have added 1.5 million new jobs since last August.

Does the President support another Unemployment Insurance extension?

* The Administration has extended Federal unemployment benefits three times, providing over $23 billion to help 7.8 million American workers. Over the last 10 months, we have seen over 1.5 million jobs created, and the unemployment rate has fallen from its peak of 6.3 percent last June to 5.6 percent this year, and we expect that trend to continue. The Administration will continue to work with Congress on this issue.

Does the President support a minimum wage increase?

* New jobs are being created. The economy has added over 1.5 million jobs since August. The President is focused on policies that will keep the economy growing.
* The Administration will continue to work with Congress to study the various minimum wage proposals.

What more can the President do to increase job creation?

* The economy is strong and getting stronger. The economy has added over 1.5 million jobs since August and the growth is expected to continue.
* To create more jobs, we must make sure America remains the best place in the world to do business.
* Tax relief was vital to getting the economy moving again, and for the sake of job creation, it must be made permanent.
* We need to reduce the number of regulations so business owners can focus on their business rather than spending hours on paperwork.
* We need legal reform to cut down on frivolous lawsuits. Even the threat of frivolous lawsuits puts a damper on job creation, investment and expansion.
* To address the high cost of health care and to help the uninsured gain coverage, the President has proposed association health plans, health savings accounts and medical liability reform.
* We need affordable and reliable supplies of energy so we can reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
* Finally, we need to open more foreign markets to U.S. products and services.
* As we create more jobs, we must help workers gain the skills needed to fill those jobs. That is why the President has proposed an aggressive agenda to help workers retrain for jobs in high-demand occupations:
* The President proposed $23 billion overall for job training and employment assistance in his FY2005 budget ? $2.5 billion (12.5 %) more than in 2001;
* The President has set a goal to double the number of workers receiving job training by reforming the Workforce Investment Act to eliminate unnecessary overhead costs by $300 million to train 100,000 additional workers and by proposing $250 million in his Jobs for the 21st Century Initiative to help America?s community colleges train 100,000 additional workers for the industries that are creating the most new jobs.
* The President?s FY 2005 budget includes $50 million Personal Reemployment Account pilot program to help those Americans who have the hardest time finding work.
* A pro-growth economic agenda and help for American workers to gain the skills to secure good jobs, are the right ways to respond to the challenges of our growing and changing economy.

Does the budget deficit threaten to harm the economy and job creation in the long run?

* Our budget reflects the country?s most important priorities: fighting the war on terror and ensuring economic growth and recovery. We?ll continue to provide whatever it takes to defend our country, protect our homeland and promote economic security.
* The President?s budget calls for cutting the deficit in half over the next five years. His plan is to continue with pro-growth policies that will increase revenues into the Treasury while holding the line on Federal spending.
* Economic growth and good stewardship of taxpayers? dollars will help us meet the President?s goal of cutting the budget deficit in half in five years.

Will Congress reject the President?s call to make tax cuts permanent?

* The budget under consideration by the House and Senate would ensure that taxes on America?s families will not increase next year. These are important steps toward ensuring that all the tax relief signed into law by the President will continue to assist America?s families and small businesses.
* Failure to extend the President?s tax cuts permanently would mean a massive tax hike on America?s families. For example, in 2005, the tax burden on a family of four earning $40,000 would increase by $915. Raising taxes on the American people would hurt families and hurt our economic recovery.

What are you doing to help manufacturers specifically?

* President Bush recognizes that the manufacturing sector has been especially hard hit. That is why he pushed for tax relief to spur business investment. Because he acted, many manufacturers have been able to take advantage of lower tax rates, the increased small business expensing limit and the 50% bonus depreciation. This tax relief has helped encourage increased business investment in durable goods and other equipment and spurred growth and job creation in our manufacturing sector over the past four months.
* In addition to tax relief, the President has also proposed a series of proposals aimed at cutting the cost of doing business by making health care more affordable, reforming the legal system to cut down on frivolous lawsuits and enacting a national energy policy that ensures an affordable, reliable supply of energy and reduces our dependence on foreign energy. These proposals are particularly important for our manufacturing sector, which shoulders a higher burden for each of these costs than other sectors of the economy.
* The Administration is also working to implement the more than 57 recommendations outlined in the Commerce Department?s Manufacturing Report, which was based on input from manufacturers nationwide.
* Manufacturers are already benefiting from the President?s economic policies. Manufacturing activities are near 20-year highs. New orders are up and jobs are starting to come back. We?ve seen over 64,000 new manufacturing jobs created this year.
 

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Kerry is Bad for the Economy


Kerry has a record of voting to send more tax dollars to Washington instead of keeping them in the productive hands of individuals and businesses ? He has voted for higher taxes hundreds of times. He voted 98 times for tax increases totaling more than $2.3 trillion. In addition, he has voted 126 times against tax cuts, voted 73 times to reduce the size of tax cuts, voted 67 times for smaller tax cuts and voted 11 times against repealing tax hikes.

Now Kerry wants to raise taxes on successful small business owners and entrepreneurs ? 90% of businesses pay taxes through the individual income tax, not the corporate income tax. Kerry?s call to repeal tax cuts for the ?wealthy? would increase taxes on nearly 1 million successful small businesses and entrepreneurs who are in the top two individual income tax brackets.

Kerry would have small businesses paying a higher tax rate than corporations ? While Kerry would reduce the top tax rate for corporations from 35% to 33.25%, he would increase the top tax rate for small businesses from 35% to 39.6%. Small businesses create 7 out of 10 new jobs. No small business should have to pay more taxes than a corporation. It?s unfair and bad economics.

Kerry?s corporate tax plan would make the U.S. less internationally competitive ? Kerry would partially end the deferral of foreign income, making the tax code even more complicated and making U.S. companies less competitive internationally. The Institute for International Economics reports ?it would actually tilt the tax field more steeply in favor of foreign MNCs [multinational companies].? (?Senator Kerry on Corporate Tax Reform: Right Diagnosis, Wrong Prescription,? Institute for International Economics, Gary Haufbauer, 4/04)

Kerry?s own advisers admit his plan won?t stop outsourcing ? ?Campaign officials acknowledged that the new plan would not stop the broader trend of outsourcing jobs to low-wage countries.? (Source: ?Kerry to Propose Eliminating a Tax Break on U.S. Companies' Overseas Profits,? The New York Times, 3/26/04)

Kerry?s New Jobs Tax Credit won?t work ? Kerry proposes bringing back a tax credit from the Carter era that didn?t work then and won?t work now. It?s complicated and will require more paperwork. It puts good companies that didn?t lay-off their employees during the recession at a competitive disadvantage with companies that did lay-off employees and now hire them back. Even the study Kerry cited in support of the idea concluded it didn?t work: ?Most firms either did not know of the program or were not influenced by it, a result which makes this short-run program an imperfect counter-cyclical tool.? (?The New Jobs Tax Credit: An Evaluation of the 1977-78 Wage Subsidy Program,? Jeffrey M. Perloff and Michael L. Wachter, The American Economic Review, May 1979)

Kerry?s economic isolationism would jeopardize millions of U.S. jobs ? Kerry?s call for reviewing trade agreements he?s already voted in favor of and for imposing unilateral tariffs could spark a trade war that jeopardizes U.S. jobs. Trade supports about 12 million jobs in the U.S. and investment from foreign companies supports another 6 million jobs.

Kerry won?t reduce the costs of doing business in the U.S. ? He has opposed reforms to curb frivolous and costly lawsuits. His health care plan would just shift costs rather than provide incentives to reduce them. His ideas for energy policy would hurt manufacturers. For example, Senator Kerry voted for a Kyoto-like bill that the National Association of Manufacturers characterized as ?potentially devastating to economic growth and job creation.? (Source: ?NAM Calls for Defeat of S. 139,? press release, 10/29/03)
 

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Raymond is right. I could add on to that for hours but my library time is limited. These liberals keep crying about no "WMD's" but Guiliani said it best himself at the RNC.
Saddam was a weapon of mass destruction.
Count the mass graves there's close to 500,000 of them.

I guess nobody really cares that Bush liberated 50,000,000 people. You'll never hear any liberal ever mention that.
 
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but whatever happend to catching the person who attacked our country?? Osama, he's still around. all bush wanted to do was finish what his father didn't and basically now he has gotten himself into a big mess. even the senate stated today how this mission is gonna be a failure if nothing is changed.
 

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Last I heard the US still has a massive military deployment all over Afghanistan and Pakistan furiously combing hostle territory in search of Osama. Anyways, even if we do catch Bin Laden it is of prime importance we continue fighting Al Queda IN IRAQ!!! That's where they live and breed and I'm glad we invaded that disgustingly inhuman place and liberated 50,000,000 people from a genocidal monster who used Nerve Gas on his own people.

Sen. Kerry is a man who has a popular history of voting against almost every single defense and military initiative there ever was. I could show you a list a mile long of strategic weapons, bombs and fighter jets who Kerry voted against.

I like when Kerry said he'd fight a more "SENSITIVE WAR ON TERROR"......yeah, that outta show 'em! ...Gimmee a fawking break

I hope you aren't trying to say if Kerry is elected that we will have a better chance of catching Bin Laden?

maybe we should try being "sensitive" lol
 
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"I like to say if you are not outraged you are not informed."

That would depend on where your getting your information.
I think you been watching too much CBS and reading too much New York times ;)

Now since Raymond has answered a few of your questions might we ask you the same.

Would you or any other Kerry backer share what he has accomplished in 20+ years of congress. Or for that fact in life.
I am truley interested because he certainly has not informed us on any accomplishments but campaigned solely on complaining what is wrong with other guy.
 

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Being a senator means every vote is a public record. When president you can make those little behind the back deals. Or as Cheney did. By the way those numbers above I understand you can get from the government accounting dept. That would be run by the Bush administration right now. So I would say there correct. Bush does not make mistakes just ask him.
 
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