What would be your chosen lifestyle and why don't you live it?

Mags

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This video is the most complete compilation of the entire story up until I decided to run for Congress and we moved to Costa Rica.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oOsflKjjNQc

Pug:

This was fascinating - you are clearly a very intelligent guy, very level headed. You would have made a great member of Congress.

I do have a question regarding your run in 2012. Given what you learned about the Democratic administration under Obama (the massive cover-up), the fact that the Democratic media was complicit in the cover-up by not even airing your story (other than the Republican Fox News, the only one who was willing to tell the truth), and given that the district you were running in appeared to lean Republican at a minimum, why would you run as a Democrat?

I realize that lawyers are pretty much all Democrats, so may be you were required to run as one? It just seems that, given your experience with the Democratic side of the aisle with the events of Flight 253, that would be the last party you would want to be associated with? Obama had a history of cover-ups - Fast & Furious was another great example. Given this background, do you look back and realize that you maybe should have run as a Republican? Do you think you could have won?

Are you worried once a Democratic regime gets back in power (and they will someday I'm sure) that you will be safe in Costa Rica?

A lot of questions - but it was a very interesting, though provoking interview. I'd been to Costa Rica a couple of times and loved it. Stay safe and enjoy!
 

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Yes, I was 8 rows behind and watched the entire incident happen. I also saw how the perpetrator boarded the flight by bypassing security in Amsterdam. If you get a chance, watch the video I posted. I know it's long but it tells the entire story.

I am going to watch the video tonight when I get home from work, thanks again for sharing your story. Its fascinating to me
 

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Pug:

This was fascinating - you are clearly a very intelligent guy, very level headed. You would have made a great member of Congress.

I do have a question regarding your run in 2012. Given what you learned about the Democratic administration under Obama (the massive cover-up), the fact that the Democratic media was complicit in the cover-up by not even airing your story (other than the Republican Fox News, the only one who was willing to tell the truth), and given that the district you were running in appeared to lean Republican at a minimum, why would you run as a Democrat?

I realize that lawyers are pretty much all Democrats, so may be you were required to run as one? It just seems that, given your experience with the Democratic side of the aisle with the events of Flight 253, that would be the last party you would want to be associated with? Obama had a history of cover-ups - Fast & Furious was another great example. Given this background, do you look back and realize that you maybe should have run as a Republican? Do you think you could have won?

Are you worried once a Democratic regime gets back in power (and they will someday I'm sure) that you will be safe in Costa Rica?

A lot of questions - but it was a very interesting, though provoking interview. I'd been to Costa Rica a couple of times and loved it. Stay safe and enjoy!

It was actually a difficult decision for me to decide which party to run under. My beliefs don't really fit into Republican or Democrat but are more Libertarian. I knew that in order to have a chance to win, I would have to run as one of the two major parties. The incumbent was a Republican and wasn't very popular. He had run 4 times previously and lost twice. When I decided to run, there weren't any Democratic candidates that were running and no major Democrat players that were even considering it. The district was 52% Republican but it was a presidential election year where traditionally more Democrats show up to vote. This was the first election after the district had been gerrymandered. It just happened that the county I lived in and was well known in had more Democrats and was newly added to the district for this election. My goal was to win my county by the same amount the Democratic candidate in 2008 won it by and do the same as the Democratic candidate did in the other counties in 2008 and 2010. That would have been enough for me to win. With my county being newly added to the district for this election, the incumbent was a complete unknown in my county. With the incumbent being so extreme right wing, I expected him to get very little Democrat votes. My goal was to be more of a moderate, anti establishment candidate and siphon off a few percent of Republican voters. If I ran as a Republican, I would have had to raise a lot of money and become well known between March when I declared and the August primary. If I ran as a Democrat, I thought I could sail through the primary and take more time to establish myself before the November general election. Also, even though I don't fit into either major party, my beliefs are closer to traditional Democratic beliefs (not those of today's Democrat party) and don't really align much with today's Republican Party at all. However, I was a bit naive at how big politics worked and the higher ups in the Democratic Party made sure I wouldn't win. As far as the underwear bomber incident, I blame that more on the intelligence agencies. Looking back, I don't think I could have won running under either party. I was too outspoken during the underwear bomber case. This is what I hinted at above, the people that are really in control have ways of not letting anti corruption candidates into office. Acknowledging this as the truth was the final straw in us leaving the US. We don't believe that real anti corruption candidates can ever win. I'm sure many will disagree with this statement but I don't really want to get into a political argument about it.

As far as being safe, I don't really worry about that. If anyone wanted to kill me it would have been in the time leading up to the underwear bomber trial. I was very worried I would be killed after I was named the sole witness for the defense! By the way, I don't consider what I went through a result of the Democratic Party but a result of uncontrollable intelligence agencies that work for the unelected elite but that is a topic for another discussion.
 

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It was actually a difficult decision for me to decide which party to run under. My beliefs don't really fit into Republican or Democrat but are more Libertarian. I knew that in order to have a chance to win, I would have to run as one of the two major parties. The incumbent was a Republican and wasn't very popular. He had run 4 times previously and lost twice. When I decided to run, there weren't any Democratic candidates that were running and no major Democrat players that were even considering it. The district was 52% Republican but it was a presidential election year where traditionally more Democrats show up to vote. This was the first election after the district had been gerrymandered. It just happened that the county I lived in and was well known in had more Democrats and was newly added to the district for this election. My goal was to win my county by the same amount the Democratic candidate in 2008 won it by and do the same as the Democratic candidate did in the other counties in 2008 and 2010. That would have been enough for me to win. With my county being newly added to the district for this election, the incumbent was a complete unknown in my county. With the incumbent being so extreme right wing, I expected him to get very little Democrat votes. My goal was to be more of a moderate, anti establishment candidate and siphon off a few percent of Republican voters. If I ran as a Republican, I would have had to raise a lot of money and become well known between March when I declared and the August primary. If I ran as a Democrat, I thought I could sail through the primary and take more time to establish myself before the November general election. Also, even though I don't fit into either major party, my beliefs are closer to traditional Democratic beliefs (not those of today's Democrat party) and don't really align much with today's Republican Party at all. However, I was a bit naive at how big politics worked and the higher ups in the Democratic Party made sure I wouldn't win. As far as the underwear bomber incident, I blame that more on the intelligence agencies. Looking back, I don't think I could have won running under either party. I was too outspoken during the underwear bomber case. This is what I hinted at above, the people that are really in control have ways of not letting anti corruption candidates into office. Acknowledging this as the truth was the final straw in us leaving the US. We don't believe that real anti corruption candidates can ever win. I'm sure many will disagree with this statement but I don't really want to get into a political argument about it.

As far as being safe, I don't really worry about that. If anyone wanted to kill me it would have been in the time leading up to the underwear bomber trial. I was very worried I would be killed after I was named the sole witness for the defense! By the way, I don't consider what I went through a result of the Democratic Party but a result of uncontrollable intelligence agencies that work for the unelected elite but that is a topic for another discussion.

Pug - thank you for taking the time to respond. Sounds like you had it well thought out (not that I'm surprised). Again, too bad you didn't win.
 

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Thanks Pug for taking the time to answer

Mags and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum but I am 100% in agreement with this.

you are clearly a very intelligent guy, very level headed. You would have made a great member of Congress.

As the late Warren Zevon reminded all of us, "Enjoy every sandwich"

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