syria has been driven out of lebanon....
Had absolutely nothing to do with our invasion of Iraq.
libya and khaddafi has disarmed itself...
Had absolutley nothing to do with our invasion of Iraq.
democratic elections...a chance at some sort of self governance....
This 'self-goverance' will be run by a group that is sympathetic to terrorists and Iran.
no more mass graves..no chance at another saddam issue:i.e..
Have you checked the news in the last few years? Almost every day they are turning up fresh new 'mass graves.' 20 here, 30 there. It adds up.
attempted assasination of a u.s. president,..
I always love this one that seems to get repeated as if it's any different than tons of other countries that would LOVE for someone to kill our president. Please provide details of this 'attempted' assasination of Bush 41 that always gets thrown out there.
attack on u.s. planes in no fly zones
With flack that could not possibly reach our jets. It was not possible. Come on, Manson.
He attacked Iran, which we supported and he attacked Kuwait which we handled.
mass killing of kurds and shiites
Kurds likely killed by Iranian gas and Shia slaughtered after we promised them support.
It's true that he burnt oil fields as he left Kuwait. Not sure if that should prompt an invasion 12 years later.
paying of suicide bombers
Paying some families of Palestinian suicide bombers should be Israels problem. And I hardly think that it made the difference as a young man decides whether to blow himself up or not. IOW, him doing this did not increase violence or death, and in any case, had nothing to do with America. Do you remember America?
aiding and abetting terrorists
I see you've been reading Mansons latest drivel.
dissing of u.n. resolutions
I thought the UN was irrelevant and corrupt. Yet we invade because he 'dissed' them? Hmmm.
bribing of u.n. officials
And this is worth 2300 lives and a half trillion?
lobbing scuds into israel
Yeah, what a shocker. Him firing weapons during a war and doing almost no damage.
would you rather die under the tyranny of saddam?....or fighting for your own self determination?...
WTF? Do you really care that much about the Iraqi civilians? If so, maybe we should weep over the fact that three years after our invasion, only 30% of the country has electicity and only half have water to drink. Oil production is lower than pre-war. They're finding mass graves every day because someone blew up a shrine. Saddam was no prize, but wait until we leave and judge the alternative.
do you seriously believe that the kurds and the shiites wish we never invaded?
lol- uh, yeah, I do believe that the religious nut fringe of the Shias are salivating at the thought of us leaving and are quite happy, frankly. That's nice for them.
should south africa have been left to their own devices?.....it was a similar situation....only they threatened no one but their own people...saddam threatened the whole region.....they disarmed...and reformed willingly...saddam wouldn`t...
Actually, it looks like Saddam did disarm, unless you or Manson know something that the CIA and the Senate committee don't.
i guess you`re saying that muslims are incapable of understanding democracy?...maybe......some might call you an elitist racist....i actually understand your concern...
lol- 'elitist racist.' Have you been following along in that region for say, oh, the last thousand years?
it was also not so easy with for the japanese and the germans, was it?...the germans were democratic but were turned totalitarian by the hitler regime......and there were little racist cynics back then as well.....
Et tu, with the WW2 comparisons? Makes sense, since in the last few days Rummy and W have done the same.
i have my doubts about the middle east.....but if you really think arabs or muslims cannot change, then what?....
What do you mean, 'then what?' You cannot force democracy on a nation and be able to control the resulting residue. Palestine is a 'democracy' run by a terror group. Iraq is and will be run by terrorist sympathizers and will most likely be an Iranian puppet. That's assuming the government doesn't dissolve altogether and become another Sudan once we leave.
does anyone think that iran arming to the teeth wouldn`t have prompted a saddam response?...
All credible sources have agreed that Saddam WANTED to restart his WMD but he was unable to while the world was watching. He may have made a lot of money with the corrupt UN, but he had no capabilities when we invaded. Let alone any capabilities of doing anything to us.
What makes you think he would have been able to flip the switch as he saw Iran 'arming to the teeth?'
sit on your hands...as europe did in ww2....and wait until it`s to late?...
lol- ahhhh, again with WW2. Was Saddam raging through the Middle East conquering countries? Did he bomb Pearl Harbor? Did he fly planes into buildings?
iraq is debatable....but to say that nothing good has come of the iraq war is wrong...
I guess (pending results of new Islamfascist government of course) removing Saddam *might* prove to be a good thing. Weigh that against the costs and future costs and it's not even close.
We ignore our ports, nuke facilities, subways, borders. We have a huge chunk of our military trying to mediate tribal warfare, rendering us toothless when it comes to Iran. If all that makes you feel safer, well, I don't know what to say.
