Which would you rather know

[Bama6895]

I would love to know who killed JFK.

Bluemond,

If you have not done so yet, please see my post in the thread talking about whether MJs has changed for the worst or not.

 

[yyz]

Sel,

How was it that the bullet "found" on the ambulance gurney with Oswald was in pristine condition? For a bullet to do the kind of damage that happened on that day, it would certainly be damaged.

Why not kill him that night?

Could it be that Ruby didn't have those marching orders at that time?

Too many things were overlooked, and swept away, for this to not be called a cover-up. Now......what was being covered, and who was beeing protected, is another story..........I can't help you there.

 

[selkirk]

Why not kill him that night?

Could it be that Ruby didn't have those marching orders at that time?

No that does not make any sense to me, espcially since Oswald was talking constantly. What do they say no let him live, we can kill him after the cops have held him overnight. I would think they would want him dead and the sooner the better. Why would they want him to live.

by the way what marching orders, and why send Ruby, who is not exactly a professional hitman, his main claim was owning a strip bar. he also had a history of talking to everyone, why send someone who would talk even before you started asking any questions.

as for the bullet not a expert on that however to prove there is a conspiracy we need more than a bullet like who did it. where is the proof.

most of the conspiracy theories quickly fall apart, for instance if it is a conspiracy why not kill oswald that night? why send a small time crook, who talks to everyone and everything.

Ruby killed Oswald because he visited a memorial set up at the site of the shooting and left in tears, he then decided to kill Oswald, He considered himself a proud american (??) so unlike the previous time he decided to kill him. makes sense since the emotion was running high. if a terrorist was caught after 9-11 in the US there would be a number of Americans trying to kill him.

another thing lot is made of all the so called people killed, most were investigated and were accidents, also why kill these people years after the event and after they have already given evidence.

maybe in a few months will post some more things about the event that dispell some more conspiracy theories. by the way the dug up Oswald body and found Oswald it was not empty or with another body.

good to debate you YYZ we will never agree

thanks
selkirk

 

[Nittany17]

Come on guys ... The parents killed Jon Benet ... OJ killed Nicole and Goldman ... the only real mystery is JFK so you gotta go with that.

 

[Tito]

To hell with all of that, Who killed Elvis?

He isn't dead. They said so on VH1. There were Elvis experts on and everything. He is doing undercover work for the FBI..................
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:drinky:
:drinky:

Now can I go back to looking for Jimmy Hoffa.........

 

[buddy]

Nittany 17,

How can you say OJ committed those crimes?

He was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

What am I missing?

 

[bigbagrat]

Buddy, if you're really don't think OJ killed them, then the answer to your question is, "you're missing common sense."

On the Ruby thing, the story was Rudy was tied to some organized crime in Dallas, through his night club. So he would have known the types who would/could give marching orders. Also, Ruby was dying of cancer and did not have long to live (he did die of lung cancer in 1967), thus he was the perfect volunteer.

 

[selkirk]

I do not beleive Ruby was diagnosed with Cancer until after he was in prison. So at the time they did not send a sick man, if they did. He was healthy and also was friends with many people working for the Dallas police. he was not a master criminal, again why send Ruby a petty criminal who main claim is owning stirip club when you could send a hitman.

by the way it was not hard for anyone to gain the access Ruby did, security was very slack. the very fact that he could pose as a reporter the night of Oswald arrest and have a gun on him is proof of this.

he was found to have cancer after he was arrested. by the way everyone talks of connections of Ruby and Oswald. Forgot the poor man who was prosecuted (in JFK played by Tommy Lee Jones), but he went to a party and Oswald was also there. that is proof enough for me, they said he worked for the CIA, a small law abidding business man. who had to fight court battle after court battle, all finding him innocent, he died poor and ill after the constant court battles, of coarse that was probably a clever CIA front, :shrug:

there was a very good documentary called the Bribe or the bullet, it was about Mexico politcs, and the crime organzations that would either bribe or kill you to get their way. they controlled the very top and would even kill the police chief if he could not be bought.

anyways they did a political assination of a man who was running to be president of Mexico and some police ( or thought to have been ) arrested the man and were going to take him away. anyways one of the few honest and braves police officer at gunpoint and in front of a crowd made them turn the suspect over, and then he revealed the plot. they were planning to kill the man it was later revealed.

If this was planned Oswald would have been killed very quickly dead men dont talk.

thanks
selkirk

 

[JSMOOTH]

Buddy, if you're really don't think OJ killed them, then the answer to your question is, "you're missing common sense."

bigbagrat,
I'm pretty sure buddy was being a little sarcastic here.

 

[bigbagrat]

LOL!!!

JSmooth-- I sure he was..........the only person I know who didn't think OJ did it was my late mother-in-law...........bless her soul...

Selkirk-- not having much luck finding the documentary you referenced "the Bribe." Anything else you remember about it? I'd like to watch it if it's still available.

 

[yyz]

I think "The Bribe" was a documentary about the Daley administration in Chicago!

 

[bigbagrat]

yyz- that's a true story! Maybe we should get into how the Daley adminstration recounted the votes in several precincts in 1960 presidential election to give Kennedy the city, state and presidency.

Then, this discussion will have gone full circle.

 

[Valuist]

Who spit on Kramer and Newman? Was it Keith Hernandez?? Or was it Roger McDowell. Dilemmas, dilemmas.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

McDowell, from the gravely road.

Eddie

 

[yyz]

That's one magic loogie!

 

[selkirk]

bibagrat I saw the documentary on Witness which is a show that shows a documentary every week. Witness is on the CBC (Canadian broadcasting corportation).

there is also a show called Human edge on TVO (ontario public channel). only catch a few of them, tape some, there is also a documentary channel but do not watch it much.

was done by a Canadian company Canadian filmakers have done some great documentaries simply because they are cheaper to produce (though maybe more time consuming) than feuture films.

did not catch it in time to tape it but if I ever come across it again will let you know.

one crime group they talked about were two brothers, they would sometimes throw in some of their enemies to feed their wild cats (tigers) .

some of the police officers were very brave, only a few in the show did not take the bribe. and only a few were not killed at the end of the film.

it is incredible to think how badly Mexican government was corrupt.


as for the recount I agree it was some interesting counting, Daly counted until he got the winner he wanted.

thanks
selkirk

 

[buddy]

Who killed Vince Foster?

huh?

 

[JSMOOTH]

who's that buddy?

 

[bigbagrat]

JSmooth

JSmooth

Hillary Clinton's sex toy while Bill was doing his intern......ship......