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I'm not confused at all. You used to work for a tout right about the time you used to go on family vacations to Atlantic city. But whether you're a former tout or not, it doesn't really matter.

5dimes is as solid as they come if you don't knowingly cheat them out of money. If you don't like them as a sponsor, maybe you shouldn't post here.
 

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I'm not confused at all. You used to work for a tout right about the time you used to go on family vacations to Atlantic city. But whether you're a former tout or not, it doesn't really matter.

5dimes is as solid as they come if you don't knowingly cheat them out of money. If you don't like them as a sponsor, maybe you shouldn't post here.

Solid book, probably.

Threatening people?

Still go to AC every year, not sure why that bothers you so much.
 

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I will probably be in the minority here but I don't think the guy should get paid.

He basically turned profit from stolen money. Lets be honest here if he's betting 50 cents on a parlay I highly doubt he would have dropped several grand per play unless it was 'free money'. He basically free rolled the incorrect payout.

I don't agree with Tony and his behavior but that's another topic IMO.

how many times did the guy have to contact 5 dimes to ask about the correct payout?..should he disregard the instructions of tony`s paid representatives and return the money in spite of being told he was fine?

if trying to reconcile a payout issue honestly with the people that tony pays to represent him makes the guy a thief,then i guess everybody`s a thief.....should every swinging dick disregard what the people hired to do this very job tells them and insist on talking directly with tony?...if so,why the hell not just fire them all?

wouldn`t it make more sense for tony to address the issue with the representatives that gave the guy bad info?....

what am i missing here?

5 dimes is my main book and i`m totally satified with them......but this argument is ridiculous...
 
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...but this argument is ridiculous...

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Some forums thrive and increase membership based on ridiculous arguments.

Don't be a party pooper.
 

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There was no police action
for the feline extraction
However, his startled reaction
caused my rectal contraction
He was squashed to be fit
as he flew out the door,
but I was able to sit
and peruse the action offshore.

(Everything went well, but I haven't seen him since.)

:lol:
 

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IF, and thats a big if, the guy actually called and spoke to people and double and triple checked that he was paid out accordingly and there was no error on his bet.....what do you expect him to do? if he calls and says there is an error with the payout, and they tell you no there isnt, what is he SUPPOSED to do?

who knows if he actually did that or not but the chat logs with that Tony guy are fucking hilarious
 

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Lets review this

Lets review this

Guy makes a bet wins but in error wins the wrong amount. This wrong amount by 10x allows him to wager much larger wagers. He wins large amounts that he would have never won if he was starting with $400 not $4000. He even questions the initial payout amount himself by consulting with 5dimes. So HE KNOWS the $4000 payout was bogus but take the $3600 as a gift ? Well gentlemen the sportsbook is a business providing a service. So lets review this again.
You bank with Bank of America. You deposit cash in the ATM of $400 yet the ATM in error gives you a deposit of $4000. So you call your bank and initially they tell you all is clear. You decide to go shopping and buy yourself a brand new man cave with an 80" TV. Now a few days laters BOA freezes your account and calls you regarding the error and $3600 ? Sir where is the money ? :shrug: I spent it on a man cave . Guess what BOA is business providing a service. I would imagine you would be given 3 biz days to replace the money or the Po-Po is knocking on your door. So now tell me Tony is wrong. :0003
 

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IF, and thats a big if, the guy actually called and spoke to people and double and triple checked that he was paid out accordingly and there was no error on his bet.....what do you expect him to do? if he calls and says there is an error with the payout, and they tell you no there isnt, what is he SUPPOSED to do?

who knows if he actually did that or not but the chat logs with that Tony guy are fucking hilarious

that`s what he alleges(if the guy`s lying,all bets are off)...i was giving him the benefit of the doubt because tony didn`t seem to dispute the guy`s claim...his comeback was "but you didn`t talk to me".....so,next time someone speaks with a rep,,be aware that the transcript isn`t worth using as a defense...

*and yes,5 dimes(imo) is the best,most option laden book out there*.....:lol:
 

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Jack, how do you still have this place on your site?

I think this is the dumbest thing you ever posted.

I have more reading to do (I haven't read below yet either or all of 2+2) but I don't think the guy should be paid either.
 

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Let's be honest, IE, the real answer to why they are here is, because they are willing to pay to advertise.

That's the only reason, I sure as hell wouldn't put them up for free.

They are still a good book and PAY. I make them 2nd best of them all.

Bash away. You have no clue.

And I still haven't read the whole story.

I do know that Tony is a stand up guy.
 

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that`s what he alleges(if the guy`s lying,all bets are off)...i was giving him the benefit of the doubt because tony didn`t seem to dispute the guy`s claim...his comeback was "but you didn`t talk to me".....so,next time someone speaks with a rep,,be aware that the transcript isn`t worth using as a defense...

*and yes,5 dimes(imo) is the best,most option laden book out there*.....:lol:

He didn't get paid 10x the amount should have, he got paid 100x. If you hit a $100 3 team parlay and someone paid you $60,000 instead of $600, would you call in to talk to an agent for confirmation? ior would you get an email confirmation? or would you go to chat so that you can log it? and somehow he's able to track down others who are also being threatened? It makes no sense.

He's able to keep the alleged threatening chat transcripts, but doesn't have any proof that an agent said that it made sense for a $0.57 wager to pay $4k

He sounds like a liar as much as Tony sounds like a poor businessman. IMO, he took a shot and it didn't work and now he's trying to trash the reputation of one of the few books left.
 

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Personally, I don't have a problem with 5 dimes....i know my money is safe there...as safe as any book dealing with usa customers and i think that's a fact.
To my knowledge there has never been anyone stiffed or slow payed which is the case of so many books....they do hate winners and will cut limits, but so what. that is their right, and in every instance they paid what was owed.


the problems with this whole scenario that don't even matter if the guy should be paid (fwiw, i'm not sure he should be paid, but I think they can reach some sort of agreement):

1. 6 weeks is way to long for books to re-grade a bet. you can say that the guy took shots, and he very well may have. but you can also look at it as the book taking a shot with him, free-rolling that no matter what he did, they were never going to pay him. just another way of looking at it.

2. Short of taking a gun and robbing the guy, I'm definitely sure that Tony should never have threatened physical violence on the guy. Do I think he meant it? probably not, but it's just bad business. Especially when there is a very good chance the chat logs will become public which they did.

Just a dumb situation, and I bet Tony regrets what he said. They'll for sure still have my action, but just know going in that they aren't a book that caters to customer service if that's what u are looking for in a book. But if you are looking for as safe an out as can be for US, and don't need bells, whistles, and promo's...this is for you.


gl

also somewhere in this mix, their grader has to be somewhat accountable.....I'm sure him/her and Tony had a nice chat.
 

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Guy makes a bet wins but in error wins the wrong amount. This wrong amount by 10x allows him to wager much larger wagers. He wins large amounts that he would have never won if he was starting with $400 not $4000. He even questions the initial payout amount himself by consulting with 5dimes. So HE KNOWS the $4000 payout was bogus but take the $3600 as a gift ? Well gentlemen the sportsbook is a business providing a service. So lets review this again.
You bank with Bank of America. You deposit cash in the ATM of $400 yet the ATM in error gives you a deposit of $4000. So you call your bank and initially they tell you all is clear. You decide to go shopping and buy yourself a brand new man cave with an 80" TV. Now a few days laters BOA freezes your account and calls you regarding the error and $3600 ? Sir where is the money ? :shrug: I spent it on a man cave . Guess what BOA is business providing a service. I would imagine you would be given 3 biz days to replace the money or the Po-Po is knocking on your door. So now tell me Tony is wrong. :0003

i`d say the bank might have a problem in court if you could document that you brought the error to the bank`s attention and they told you everything was o.k and then spent the money.........

i`d also say that if you could document the physical threats against you,you might even walk away with some extra change in your pocket....

i don`t think the error even becomes an issue if the guy didn`t proceed to beat the hell out the book...


of course,it`s a moot point....you could be right as rain and it wouldn`t matter one iota...they`re in costa rica and you`re in bumfuck iowa...you got the payout...but you ain`t gettin` the rest....they can pretty much do whatever they want....you have no recourse....
 
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