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That was an interesting read. Same guys who i always thought were 2 sandwiches short of a picnic were actually three short back then. Hippo, i never realize you had so much ass (power) behind your post. What ever happen to it? This was before my time. The dreaded "conspiracy" word reared its ugly head again. Im willing to bet that guys who throw that world around constantly, to somehow make their argument legitimate, have to be great fade opportunities.
i didn't get rolled i can just feel the mood he is in. He has a few of them. Reading his last post about "this is so sept 12th":mj07: i figured that this was a roll. You can tell when he is serious and when he is setting traps.:mj07:
None of my posts are fixed, so you should be able to guess the outcome of 99% of them. Well done, my absorbant friend.:SIB
If I may quote Einstein:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17475.htm
thanks for the replies, this is a long reead for anyone who isnt a sheeple, hehe ... brings up some valid points, hard to say what happened, i dont think anyone here has 10 per cent of the answers ...
and yes my basketball camp scrimmages have been under surveillance for years by stern for point shaving, usually only on 'unders' tho:scared
fwiw, this isnt meant to wind anyone up too tightly, just some chit chat before the first cfb tee is placed down
peace
gregg
thanks for the replies, this is a long reead for anyone who isnt a sheeple, hehe ... brings up some valid points, hard to say what happened, i dont think anyone here has 10 per cent of the answers ...
and yes my basketball camp scrimmages have been under surveillance for years by stern for point shaving, usually only on 'unders' tho:scared
fwiw, this isnt meant to wind anyone up too tightly, just some chit chat before the first cfb tee is placed down
peace
gregg
WMV video download of above (202kB) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html
?Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today, it?s reminiscent of those pictures we?ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down.?
CBS News anchor Dan Rather commenting on the collapse of Building 7 - September 11, 2001 at approx 5:30pm EST.
When buildings such as WTC 7 are demolished the collapse is initiated by an explosion in the central area of the basement. This causes the building to collapse in on itself and minimizes damage to surrounding structures [full details].
?Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today, it?s reminiscent of those pictures we?ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down.?
CBS News anchor Dan Rather commenting on the collapse of Building 7 - September 11, 2001 at approx 5:30pm EST.
When buildings such as WTC 7 are demolished the collapse is initiated by an explosion in the central area of the basement. This causes the building to collapse in on itself and minimizes damage to surrounding structures [full details].
For those of us that lost friends and family that were traveling on those airplanes that absolutely crashed into the Pentagon and the WTC respectively, I would say that the literally hundreds of witness accounts all concur that it was an AA 757 full of human beings that crashed into the Pentagon. As far as jet fuel being solely responsible for the tumbling of the Towers. I am not sure that is what was stated or found to be the only "official" cause of the whole thing. However, being that I don't agree one bit with the present Commander in Chief, I would love to be able to find him to be guilty of some giant conspiracy so he could be publicly humiliated and hopefully jailed but let's be honest. W couldn't conspire to get a lollipop from the family doctor, let alone something as large as that. The fact is radical Islamic terrorists were responsible for the attack on our country, period.
http://www.911docs.net/911_press_for_truth.htm
for those of us who spend 100xs times more on gambling news and clicking for parlays, or surf for porn, or drink beer, then seeking the truth of our government ... take the time to watch this doc, maybe we will wake up to some obvious truths
peace
gregg
for those of us who spend 100xs times more on gambling news and clicking for parlays, or surf for porn, or drink beer, then seeking the truth of our government ... take the time to watch this doc, maybe we will wake up to some obvious truths
peace
gregg
chalk me up in the clueless category and believing that a jet hit the Pentagon and that the wtc weren't taken down with planned explosives.
from terror timeline
from terror timeline
September 6-10, 2001: Suspicious trading occurs on American and United, the two airlines used in the 9/11 attacks. "Between 6 and 7 September, The Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put option contracts [a speculation that the stock will go down] in UAL versus 396 call options ? where a speculator bets on a price rising. Holders of the put options would have netted a profit of $5 million once the carrier's share price dived after September 11. On 10 September, more trading in Chicago saw the purchase of 4,516 put options in American Airlines, the other airline involved in the hijackings. This compares with a mere 748 call options in American purchased that day. Investigators cannot help but notice that no other airlines saw such trading in their put options." One analyst says: "I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in 10 years of following the markets, particularly the options markets." [Associated Press, 9/18/01, San Francisco Chronicle, 9/19/01] "To the embarrassment of investigators, it has also emerged that the firm used to buy many of the "put" options ... on United Airlines stock was headed until 1998 by "Buzzy" Krongard, now executive director of the CIA." Krongard was chairman of Alex Brown Inc., which was bought by Deutsche Bank. "His last post before resigning to take his senior role in the CIA was to head Bankers Trust ? Alex Brown's private client business, dealing with the accounts and investments of wealthy customers around the world."
The Chicago Board Options Exchange sees suspicious trading on Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley, two of the largest WTC tenants. An average of 3,053 put options in Merrill Lynch are bought between September 6-10, compared to an average of 252 in the previous week. Merrill Lynch, another WTC tenant, see 12,215 put options bought between September 7-10, when the previous days had seen averages of 252 contracts a day. [Independent, 10/14/01] Dylan Ratigan of Bloomberg Business News: "This would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence." [ABC News, 9/20/01] FTW
from terror timeline
September 6-10, 2001: Suspicious trading occurs on American and United, the two airlines used in the 9/11 attacks. "Between 6 and 7 September, The Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put option contracts [a speculation that the stock will go down] in UAL versus 396 call options ? where a speculator bets on a price rising. Holders of the put options would have netted a profit of $5 million once the carrier's share price dived after September 11. On 10 September, more trading in Chicago saw the purchase of 4,516 put options in American Airlines, the other airline involved in the hijackings. This compares with a mere 748 call options in American purchased that day. Investigators cannot help but notice that no other airlines saw such trading in their put options." One analyst says: "I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in 10 years of following the markets, particularly the options markets." [Associated Press, 9/18/01, San Francisco Chronicle, 9/19/01] "To the embarrassment of investigators, it has also emerged that the firm used to buy many of the "put" options ... on United Airlines stock was headed until 1998 by "Buzzy" Krongard, now executive director of the CIA." Krongard was chairman of Alex Brown Inc., which was bought by Deutsche Bank. "His last post before resigning to take his senior role in the CIA was to head Bankers Trust ? Alex Brown's private client business, dealing with the accounts and investments of wealthy customers around the world."
The Chicago Board Options Exchange sees suspicious trading on Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley, two of the largest WTC tenants. An average of 3,053 put options in Merrill Lynch are bought between September 6-10, compared to an average of 252 in the previous week. Merrill Lynch, another WTC tenant, see 12,215 put options bought between September 7-10, when the previous days had seen averages of 252 contracts a day. [Independent, 10/14/01] Dylan Ratigan of Bloomberg Business News: "This would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence." [ABC News, 9/20/01] FTW
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I lived in Canada for a while when I was playing ball and I saw a documentary that showed a lot of stuff that they dont show here. It said the the parts they recovered from plane that hit the pentagon did not match the parts of the plane that supposedly hit it. I think it was a cover up. It was a very interesting documentary. It also said there is no way that the towers could burn down that fast from the impact of a plane.
Do a search and type in loose change, these fools have been proven wrong on all parts but still they go back and edit their short film in a grasp to say we the U.S. was behind all of it.
They even try to say that their was not a flight 92. This is a slap in the face of all the famlies who lost love ones along with the people who risk their life to try and save then recover what they could.
Way off on their research and just trying to get name out there, which lot of fools have listened to them, a group of freshmen in college at the time they started the site and short film.
They even try to say that their was not a flight 92. This is a slap in the face of all the famlies who lost love ones along with the people who risk their life to try and save then recover what they could.
Way off on their research and just trying to get name out there, which lot of fools have listened to them, a group of freshmen in college at the time they started the site and short film.
Hey Fletcher whats up how have you been, I havent seen you on here in a long time. I was just saying when I was in Canada I saw a lot of stuff I didnt see here. I dont know if it was bullshit or not but it was pretty interesting. It really made me think.
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welcome back!!! Been missing you; didn't know where you were. Hope all is well
I really never post in baseball, just not enough games. Will be here till baseball season next year.
Glad to be back G and Six-Five
Eric
Glad to be back G and Six-Five
Eric
fletch, how much have you read and studied on all aspects other than loose change, have you read any of david ray griffins latest book, try amazon and see how many 5-star reviews it gets ...
loose change was one of many docs ... the maker, you are right, were young and like oliver stone in jfk were only trying to spark some investigation from a dogma numbed society ...
go onto youtube and type in, loose change vs. popular mechanics, those shills were ground to bits by griffin in his latest book... why wont the government release any of the pics and films from flight 77 and the pentagon ... they have 5 stills that prove nothing ... if its all on the up and up, why arent any of the 84 confiscated video tapes allowed to be shown to the public; its like the panama deception film-an oscar winner--not being permitted to be shown in the usa anymore--that was bush 1 ... and why did hani hanjour's ID show up after crashing into the pentagon and nothing else could be found, the same pilot who allegedly crashed the 757 into the pentagon after cheney ordered the 'stand down,' the same hanjour who couldnt pilot a cessna went out and performed a buck rodgers/luke skywalker impossible hit on the defense HQ of the world ... furthermore, the flight 77 animation of full 330 degree turn until end of recording--http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html--has glaring descrepensies with the 'official report'.
i have been sitting here for a week researching thngs that have bothered me for years, i was in shock after 911, on the verge of tears like all of us im sure ... but if anyone takes the time to actually delve deep into the soul of this morass, things dont add up ... do i have all the answers, no, but i have enough questions and doubts now to turn my stomach and know we are being lied to ...
click the press for truth link i submitted earlier, spend 1;24 to seek some facts that are indisuptable ... sure, popular mechanics debunked everything the loose change kids said, they are a Hearst owned and backed troika ... but i watched the entire debate and read griffin's insight on the debunking of the debunking, just bc one person says I AM RIGHT, doesnt mean the otherside is wrong, we should know that better than anyone being gamblers ...
take the plunge, fletch, you and anyone else bold enough to thirst for knowlegde, and research half as hard as we dissect defenses and trends ... what you find will startle and enlighten you.
as the buddhists say, 'question everything,' including their own doctrine.
http://www.911docs.net/
peace out
gregg
loose change was one of many docs ... the maker, you are right, were young and like oliver stone in jfk were only trying to spark some investigation from a dogma numbed society ...
go onto youtube and type in, loose change vs. popular mechanics, those shills were ground to bits by griffin in his latest book... why wont the government release any of the pics and films from flight 77 and the pentagon ... they have 5 stills that prove nothing ... if its all on the up and up, why arent any of the 84 confiscated video tapes allowed to be shown to the public; its like the panama deception film-an oscar winner--not being permitted to be shown in the usa anymore--that was bush 1 ... and why did hani hanjour's ID show up after crashing into the pentagon and nothing else could be found, the same pilot who allegedly crashed the 757 into the pentagon after cheney ordered the 'stand down,' the same hanjour who couldnt pilot a cessna went out and performed a buck rodgers/luke skywalker impossible hit on the defense HQ of the world ... furthermore, the flight 77 animation of full 330 degree turn until end of recording--http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html--has glaring descrepensies with the 'official report'.
i have been sitting here for a week researching thngs that have bothered me for years, i was in shock after 911, on the verge of tears like all of us im sure ... but if anyone takes the time to actually delve deep into the soul of this morass, things dont add up ... do i have all the answers, no, but i have enough questions and doubts now to turn my stomach and know we are being lied to ...
click the press for truth link i submitted earlier, spend 1;24 to seek some facts that are indisuptable ... sure, popular mechanics debunked everything the loose change kids said, they are a Hearst owned and backed troika ... but i watched the entire debate and read griffin's insight on the debunking of the debunking, just bc one person says I AM RIGHT, doesnt mean the otherside is wrong, we should know that better than anyone being gamblers ...
take the plunge, fletch, you and anyone else bold enough to thirst for knowlegde, and research half as hard as we dissect defenses and trends ... what you find will startle and enlighten you.
as the buddhists say, 'question everything,' including their own doctrine.
http://www.911docs.net/
peace out
gregg
