Agent in the Indiana State Amateur
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Thought you did good job Chad--would have been easy to throw in the towel after 1st day--you fought back.
Was looking over your prior results and was probably more impressed with your worst score than all the others--Can't comment on tracks I haven't seen but I'm here to tell Victoria National is a monster. If they want to they can set it up tougher than 50% of pga courses.
On the scratch golfer--my vote would be yes considering scores I saw were tounament setups and added pressure.
We had 2 day amatuer tourney here over week end--reduced to one day because of rain and lightening--and they had 24 " 0 handicappers or better" and 9 players broke par--Was won by Kenny Perry's son Justin.
Was looking over your prior results and was probably more impressed with your worst score than all the others--Can't comment on tracks I haven't seen but I'm here to tell Victoria National is a monster. If they want to they can set it up tougher than 50% of pga courses.
On the scratch golfer--my vote would be yes considering scores I saw were tounament setups and added pressure.
We had 2 day amatuer tourney here over week end--reduced to one day because of rain and lightening--and they had 24 " 0 handicappers or better" and 9 players broke par--Was won by Kenny Perry's son Justin.
Certainly not jumping on Agent here :SIB -but since he usually ask for it I will say that for the uninformed computing a players handicap is a formula using differential based on the best 10 of last 20 scores-(a formula using course rating etc) ....anyway to be very honest from the scores in competition that are on the web site and a few indicators about when he plays---(saw a picture of him playing from the whites)--I would hazard a guess that Agent is like a lot of DECENT golfers--not good-not great-but decent --he overinflates his handicap by shooting scores from the members tees in order to keep his cap low-so he can play in state Am events------I see this type of thing all the time as I am a PGA Club Pro in the Northeast and I deal with this all the time-I play in state Open and section events against players who say the are scratch and shoot 79-84 all the time....my guess is if Agent played a revolving group of courses from 7200 yards on a daily basis he is at best a 6-7 handicap ( only going by the scores posted on indiana web site)....just my two cents
Good playing Agent.
I wouldn't worry about Vinnie. It's way over his head. DTB stole my thunder... commenting on the courses you've played and the fact that they are set up for tournament conditions. Not to mention that when you played Vic National it was in a driving rainstorm.
I've known Agent for 20 years now. I caddied for him on the mini-tours in Florida. I've seen him shoot some low numbers and he is most definitely a scratch golfer.
I wouldn't worry about Vinnie. It's way over his head. DTB stole my thunder... commenting on the courses you've played and the fact that they are set up for tournament conditions. Not to mention that when you played Vic National it was in a driving rainstorm.
I've known Agent for 20 years now. I caddied for him on the mini-tours in Florida. I've seen him shoot some low numbers and he is most definitely a scratch golfer.
If the guy says hes scratch good for him. I mean ive seen Michelle Wie miss the cut by 1 on a pga tour course and shoot rounds in the 60.. then almost shoot 90 on a regular lpga course. Maybe he had a bad event. :shrug:
Good Luck Agent :clap:
Good Luck Agent :clap:
:mj07: You say you are a pro and understand the handicap system? Just like you wrote, it is based on the 10 BEST rounds out of the last 20, and you think he is a 6-7 handicap. Since you are pro and then obviously "scratch", I will take Agent and three a side for a bet:shrug: A BIG BET:scared
6-7 handicap:142smilie now that is funny coming from someone that "understands" the handicap system:mj07:
I will say there is no way this guy is a scratch golfer. He might be scratch on his home course. Unless he gets extremely nervous and cant play in these little tourneys, which might be a tad comical..Hes also not a 6 or 7. If you shoot 78 from the tips on these tough courses that have rankings of 73.5 or so..
He is more like a 3 or 4. Im done on the subject, I like Agent.. but a 7 handicap would be shooting 80+ or so every time on these courses.
He is more like a 3 or 4. Im done on the subject, I like Agent.. but a 7 handicap would be shooting 80+ or so every time on these courses.
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I kinda thought hsams thoughts had some merit, but what the hell do I know. And that is not in regards to Agent at all, because I think he had an off day from what I understand of his game
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But I never understand how some of my buddies say, "but me down for a 5/6, cause my handicap wont let me take more than that" :scared WTF :SIB. Someone please explain that to me for the umpteenth time, cause it never makes sense :sadwave:. Also, hsams said that Agent would be a 6/7 handicap if he played on 7200 yard courses all the time, well I'm sure my scores would go up that amount too if I played those types of courses. One thing I learned from his post though is what happens in more competitive golf, which I will call the reverse sandbagger theory. And that is lowering of handicap to enter tourneys, instead of inflating the handicap to win tourneys that are based on handicaps :nooo:
Franky
I kinda thought hsams thoughts had some merit, but what the hell do I know. And that is not in regards to Agent at all, because I think he had an off day from what I understand of his game
.But I never understand how some of my buddies say, "but me down for a 5/6, cause my handicap wont let me take more than that" :scared WTF :SIB. Someone please explain that to me for the umpteenth time, cause it never makes sense :sadwave:. Also, hsams said that Agent would be a 6/7 handicap if he played on 7200 yard courses all the time, well I'm sure my scores would go up that amount too if I played those types of courses. One thing I learned from his post though is what happens in more competitive golf, which I will call the reverse sandbagger theory. And that is lowering of handicap to enter tourneys, instead of inflating the handicap to win tourneys that are based on handicaps :nooo:
Franky
Vinnie, you obviously have no talent at anything, and no hobby other than the fact that you have a porn obsession. Well, I guess there is always the BTJ stalking you have going for you also. Nobody 'got exposed' or anything else you freakin drama queen. The Augusta thread was a fukcing JOKE you toolbox, get it through your head.
I have received numerous emails from guys on here telling me way to go and stuff like that. Thank you guys VERY MUCH! Nobody had to go out of their way to do that, and it is one nice gesture!
As for the handicap thing, Hsams obviously has no fukcing clue what he is talking about. abc, you seem a decent guy but admitted you can't break 90 so you know didly shit about playing in these 'little tournies'. If you made that comment, it isn't worth attempting an explanation.
Wayne (DTB), I know you have been around these things, and I really appreciate the nice words! I could give a shit what anyone thinks my handicap is or isn't, not as if Vinnie will show up wanting a game for $1,000 3 ways.
Dunclock, Rolltide, and the rest, thanks for having my back! Kinda like the rest of the world, you gotta suffer through the Vinnies to enjoy all the good. :00hour
BTW, there is no inflating of handicap to get into these things douche bag, you have to QUALIFY by playing in a tournament before the tournament. Not like you show up and say I'm a 2 put me in.
Morons!
I have received numerous emails from guys on here telling me way to go and stuff like that. Thank you guys VERY MUCH! Nobody had to go out of their way to do that, and it is one nice gesture!
As for the handicap thing, Hsams obviously has no fukcing clue what he is talking about. abc, you seem a decent guy but admitted you can't break 90 so you know didly shit about playing in these 'little tournies'.
If you made that comment, it isn't worth attempting an explanation. Wayne (DTB), I know you have been around these things, and I really appreciate the nice words! I could give a shit what anyone thinks my handicap is or isn't, not as if Vinnie will show up wanting a game for $1,000 3 ways.
Dunclock, Rolltide, and the rest, thanks for having my back! Kinda like the rest of the world, you gotta suffer through the Vinnies to enjoy all the good. :00hour
BTW, there is no inflating of handicap to get into these things douche bag, you have to QUALIFY by playing in a tournament before the tournament. Not like you show up and say I'm a 2 put me in.
Morons!
I will agree with Franky on one of his points, the equitable stroke control or whatever is plain BS. When I play in tournaments and make a 9:scared , do I get to write down a 6 because I am a single digit hdcp:shrug: The whole hdcp system is BS, it should be based on your 10 median scores, not just the 10 best. If you really know how the system works, it is supposed to be your POTENTIAL, and not what you average score is:shrug: That is why the adjusted scores and the lower number on your handicap card. I have shot 68 in a tournament and I have shot 91 in a tournament, guess what my handicap is:shrug:
Still taking any bets on giving Agent three a side for his 6-7 handicap:mj07: :142smilie
Still taking any bets on giving Agent three a side for his 6-7 handicap:mj07: :142smilie
Exactly! And try to explain to a nimrod porn obsessed stalker like Vinnie what slope and such means when it comes to figuring a handicap. It is so comical that he thinks he 'got me' or something. :142smilie
