Anyone ever get DWI? need advice

loophole

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of all the replies containing poor advice in this thread, the one i am most disappointed in is yours, marine. i guess over the years i have come to respect your intellect and judgment, and i suppose i hold you to a higher standard than most.

to address the issue, never go to court on any criminal charge without an attorney. this is not just to help decide whether to defend on the issue of guilt or innocence, but even more so to help to plan for a guilty plea, if that is the appropriate thing to do. marine and others somehow hold the deluded belief that all criminal defense lawyers do is sit around and think of twisted and unethical things to do to get their clients off. to the contrary, peading an obviously guilt client not guilty and putting on a contrived defense is sometimes the worst possible thing a lawyer can do to represent his client. it only tends to aggravate a judge when you make him sit through such nonsense, and many times results in your client being sentenced more harshly than he would have been if he had come into could in a forthright manner.

i tell my clients all the time, it's not as important what you did, it's important what you're willing to do about it. if your client is obviously guity and the state can prove it with the evidence at their disposal, then sound judgment calls for a different preparation for court. most often, i will tell my clients to go get an alcohol abuse assesment and follow treatment recommendations, start attending aa meetings, volunteer for community service work, admit themselves for inpatient treatment if appropriate, and other things of a similiar ilk. the idea is to ultimately go into court and not just give lip service to guilt and remorse, but to show a judge that you are actually motivated to take action on your own to address your problem and attone for your acts. those are the kind of things that persuade judges not to impose the harshest sanctions and instead be lenient on an offender.


bottom line, what you should do prior to court varies from locality to locality. whatever you do, get a lawyer.
 

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Loop,

Maybe I misrepresented myself in my threads. I am not "going after" the lawyers in these situations at all. If I slipped and did make mention of that I apologise. What chaps my hide is the "deal making and excuses" that some people cry about when they are charged with something like this.

I saw one reply where "I blew a .11 and still got off and made the cop look like a fool"

What exactly is that about?

Or when someone gets pulled over and complains "oh I was only a mile from home, I think the cop should have just had me park it and walk home from there - it wouldnt be that hard" which is a great idea... maybe you should have thought of it BEFORE you got in the car.

Burping in the breathalizer, arguing that it wasnt a legal traffic stop to pull you over, etc etc etc.

I am sure you have figured out by now that my mouth tends to run faster than my brain when discussing certain topics and I do not articulate myself as well as I should.

It just chaffs me that with all the publicity and options people have, they still get behind the wheel and do stupid things when there are so many more options.
 

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Hard to be more wrong, Loop......

Hard to be more wrong, Loop......

marine's responses here have been the most decent and honest ones, and if more people had his instincts we would be a far better country. Loop, have you noticed how nobody is ever guilty of anything anymore? No, apparently we are all victims, whatever we have done. A nation of victims justifying acts ranging from the mundanely criminal to the horrendous. And, out of the woodwork will crawl the lawyers - the high priests of our world. Lawyers providing the enabling techiques that just prove we are all victims.

marine exhibits honesty and decency, I can see how a criminal lawyer would be uncomfortable with that.
 

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Re: Hard to be more wrong, Loop......

Re: Hard to be more wrong, Loop......

Englishman said:
marine exhibits honesty and decency,

Decency?? He takes it up the pooper. Pennsylvania, with their Quaker history, has to have laws against that still on there books.
 
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marine

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HEY!!! I have yet to take it in the pooper!

Still weighing the options and saving up for the "Big Bubba equalizer" for the wife to go out and buy.

Until that time I can only sit and dream about the intense pain I will be feeling.
:D
 

taoist

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...have been hesitant to respond in this thread, as there has been some really poor advice given out, most of which I won't even take the time to address, but listen to loophole and get an attorney!!! NEVER go to court on a criminal charge without one!!!! :nono:


...you might think that you're "saving" money, but you will pay for it one way or another.... follow loop's advice:

"go get an alcohol abuse assesment and follow treatment recommendations, start attending aa meetings, volunteer for community service work, admit themselves for inpatient treatment if appropriate, and other things of a similiar ilk. the idea is to ultimately go into court and not just give lip service to guilt and remorse, but to show a judge that you are actually motivated to take action on your own to address your problem and attone for your acts. those are the kind of things that persuade judges not to impose the harshest sanctions and instead be lenient on an offender."


...and please...please retain an attorney!!! ;)


p.s. ...sorry for your problems, but keep your head up...we've all made mistakes. :)
 

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Quick story....

Friend of mine in law school works in DA's office prosecuting DUI's.... Jo Q. Public wrecked his truck and was sitting on the tailgate when the police arrived.... Guy tested .35 bac at the hospital. Seems like an open and shut case....


...case went to trial and jury returned a verdict of not guilty. why? ...because the DA couldn't prove that the guy was "driving" the vehicle, even though he was the only one there and was sitting on the tailgate when the police arrived.

...moral of the story - get an attorney. ;)


...and no, i am not condoning this type of behavior.... simply suggesting that you seek the advice of competent counsel. :)
 

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taoist said:
Quick story....

Friend of mine in law school works in DA's office prosecuting DUI's.... Jo Q. Public wrecked his truck and was sitting on the tailgate when the police arrived.... Guy tested .35 bac at the hospital. Seems like an open and shut case....


...case went to trial and jury returned a verdict of not guilty. why? ...because the DA couldn't prove that the guy was "driving" the vehicle, even though he was the only one there and was sitting on the tailgate when the police arrived.

...moral of the story - get an attorney. ;)


...and no, i am not condoning this type of behavior.... simply suggesting that you seek the advice of competent counsel. :)

Seems to me that jury went a little far with 'reasonable' doubt, lol.
 

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Heres one that I heard similar to Taoists.

Guy gets pulled over, jumps out of his car, opens up a pint of bourbon he had in his glove compartment, starts chugging it right in front of the police officers. The guy walks because they couldn't prove he was drunk when they pulled him over after downing the bourbon.

Now that is the kind of story that should chap your ass.:mad:
 

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Hey marine I didn't think we were here to post morale judgement.Magic was ask for advise and my advise was to hire a lawyer. The system has to prove him guilty. I know from going thru it myself how he feels. Knowone needs to come down on him but himself. I agree people need to take responsiblity for there actions but sometimes the cops do try to f*** you over.
 
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MAJIC THEY MABE TAKE LISENS BUT NO LET TAKE PRID TO. THEY DAM COPPER GET ME 4 STOP IN LIFE DONT PLAY THEY GAME NEVER PLAY THEY GAME. LAS TIME THEY TAKE RAT LISENS 6 MONTH NO GO. I STILL DRIVE THEN BUT VERY NERVIS WHEN SEE COPPERS AROND. OK KNOW SO MOST LET WIFE DRIVE WHEN DRINK BUT NOT ALWAY. BEST ADVISE WHEN DRINK ALWAY LOOK FOR COPPERS AND STAY ON ROAD. GOOD LUCK.

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