ARE YOU FUGGING KIDDING ME COLIN KAEPERKNICK
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Everyone's fucking offended and everyone's a victim. Jeez. Can't we let turds be turds without crying our eyes out anymore?
Didn't mean to break up the shit show. Carry on with the whining everybody. :toast:
Now Pearl Harbor, THAT is a place for the National Anthem and quiet respect.
But I don't see Sunday morning at an $NFL game, on $FOX TV, at Levi's $tadium to be a reverent place. It's a violent sport played for money and the casual enjoyment of spectators. There is no sacrifice or respect or silence expected at a football game.
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My friend articulated this issue well on his Facebook page: He is a super liberal guy, and I am sure that would be a turnoff to many readers, but the post is fairly apolitical:
""Frankly, I've been waiting for years for someone in a position like Kaepernick's to say what he said. I go to baseball games, and I've listened to hundreds of national anthems (including 2014 when I somehow managed to hear the Canadian national anthem sung on the 4th of July) and I've felt deeply conflicted about each one.
What I don't like is, it's a patriotism test. You see the same bullshit in politics. Does Ted Cruz love America more because he puts his hand inside his jacket, closer to his heart, when he hears the anthem? Is Simone Biles less American because she stands perfectly respectfully during the anthem, but doesn't hold her hand over her heart?
The people criticizing Kaepernick, they want everyone's patriotism to be uniform and identical. They think they're performing patriotism correctly, while others are disgracing themselves (and somehow a legion of wounded American servicemembers) by being patriots in *any* *other* *way*. That's bullshit.
I stand and take my hat off at baseball games because I'm pretty much always there with my dad, and I don't want him to feel like an asshole, which he would, if I were to sit out the national anthem. I already sit out 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' during the 7th Inning Stretch because it's the stupidest, worst, most nerve-grinding series of idiotic noises that I can't stand, and I know my dad wishes I would participate in that one, so I can't bum him out twice in one day, especially during the Patriotism Test (tm).
So, I stand because I love my dad. I love America too, but not in the way where I want to sing goofy songs to it and outright worship the red, white, and blue cloth that's whipping in the wind. I love America in the way where I want to work to make it better, which, ironically, is exactly what Kaepernick is talking about. We love it enough to invest in it, but not enough to treat America like it achieved glorious perfection right around the time Ronald Reagan was crowned. It didn't. We are far, far from perfect.
I'm not alone in that group of people-who-only-stand-so-their-dad-doesn't-feel-like-an-asshole. It's a big group. Lots of people do lots of things just to avoid making their dads feel like assholes. I'm still going to stand for the national anthem, because the circumstances of my life are different than Colin Kaepernick's life, but I am glad as hell that he's decided to show love for his country the way he has and to start a conversation about why so many feel so strongly about our pre-athletic event patriotism test. What he did took a lot of guts.""
WHAT IF HE HAD JUST SAID, "I AIN'T STANDING BECAUSE OF THE 2 'ASSHOLES" WHO ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND LEFT IT AT THAT? OR SINGLED ONE OR THE OTHER OUT?.....JUST ASKIN :0008
This is the most ignorant complaint about this whole thing. As soon as someone expresses their freedom of speech on the other side of the coin these nutjobs throw the "against freedom of speech and expression" flag.
For fucks sake can we please reserve the words courageous and brave for people who actually do things courageous and brave. This was a self serving act that took zero bravery. Holy shit this country is fucked.
ADDEENDUM The Anthem or our Flag is NOT about race relgion or anyother BS that some Jack off decides to say or do.
IT's about this great country being represented in a song actually two songs about america.
OUR flag represents all 50 states and the 13 original colinies!
tHATS ALL IT IS A SYMBOL TO HANG ON YOUR HOME OR WAVE AS YOU PLAESE.
AMERICA the Beautiful.
DONT like it ............... fucking leave
IT's about this great country being represented in a song actually two songs about america.
OUR flag represents all 50 states and the 13 original colinies!
tHATS ALL IT IS A SYMBOL TO HANG ON YOUR HOME OR WAVE AS YOU PLAESE.
AMERICA the Beautiful.
DONT like it ............... fucking leave
Pay your taxes - check
Vote - check
Follow laws - check
love your family - check
have a job - check
indifferent to national anthem - GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY #*%$&*(#$&(
this makes no sense to me. :shrug::shrug:
Really any philosophy that ends with "if you don't agree with me, leave the country" is pointless.
what about all the baseball fans in Baltimore that insist on screaming OOOOOOOOO! during the national anthem at the start of each ball game? Can you believe how they disrespect the national anthem by not singing any other words, and then just screaming out OOOO so obnoxiously during it and only saying that one part?
I can't even begin to understand why the federal government hasn't forced Maryland to secede from the United States because of that disrespect.
Oh wait, it's cool when they do it because it's enthusiastic and you agree with it? Oh, never mind then.
None of this is about what you do during patriot time. Sadly, the talking points about this whole thing has become that though.
Who loves the flag more.
Society has missed the actual issue that CK was trying to get across (which he failed miserably at), and turned it into who loves America the best.
I'm willing to bet $1000 that you can go ask 50 random people on the street to recite the lyrics to the star spangled banner and less than half of them can actually do it. But that isn't going to stop them from getting on this wagon about how much we love 'murica more than that guy over there.
I can't even begin to understand why the federal government hasn't forced Maryland to secede from the United States because of that disrespect.
Oh wait, it's cool when they do it because it's enthusiastic and you agree with it? Oh, never mind then.
None of this is about what you do during patriot time. Sadly, the talking points about this whole thing has become that though.
Who loves the flag more.
Society has missed the actual issue that CK was trying to get across (which he failed miserably at), and turned it into who loves America the best.
I'm willing to bet $1000 that you can go ask 50 random people on the street to recite the lyrics to the star spangled banner and less than half of them can actually do it. But that isn't going to stop them from getting on this wagon about how much we love 'murica more than that guy over there.
