Arizona governor signs immigration enforcement bill

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1) ?Immigration is not police duty?


If you are breaking the law, yes, IMMIGRATION IS A POLICE DUTY !

As Americans, we need a Passport to go to Mexico, why should Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Chinese, Russian or Canadians waltz into America unchecked?

2) ?As a teacher, I don't want to check IDs every time a
brown kid is in my classroom. That's racism,?


Not your job as a teacher to report immigration status Mr Kotter ! If you suspect child abuse, then you contact the police.

3) ?Immigrants who come here do the hardest labor,?
said Francisco Camacho of the Desert Hot Springs
Committee for Social Justice.

Except for American Indians, ?No matter what color
you are, you're an immigrant,? he said.


First Statement not 100% true, I have done some shitty jobs in 120 degree temps on the freeway with cars speeding by me while we were repairing potholes. There are many other tough jobs out there, but to make a blanket statement that immigrants take the toughest jobs is not true.

Statement 2, Yes American Indians are the only Indigenous people here, but I get really tired of the the statement that I am an immingrant. WRONG ! My family has roots here for over 120 years. I am the the grandson of immigrants. But I didn't sneak into the country and neither did my grandparents, 3 out of 4 came thru Ellis Island and the other is a Native American.
 

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i don`t get the whining...you still need probable cause....

i was asked for my papers last week.... d.l. and registration, ....


i've been asked for i.d. when using my credit card, writing checks... and don't even think about getting on an airplane without i.d...

try registering your kid for school. ...birth cert and immunization record...that's not just i.d., that's medical history....

phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world(outside of mexico city)...not arizona...not the u.s.,,,2nd in the the world...you think those are americans kidnapping people?..

something needs to be done...
 

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i don`t get the whining...you still need probable cause....

i was asked for my papers last week.... d.l. and registration, ....


i've been asked for i.d. when using my credit card, writing checks... and don't even think about getting on an airplane without i.d...

try registering your kid for school. ...birth cert and immunization record...that's not just i.d., that's medical history....

phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world(outside of mexico city)...not arizona...not the u.s.,,,2nd in the the world...you think those are americans kidnapping people?..

something needs to be done...

CHEERS !

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i don`t get the whining...you still need probable cause....

i was asked for my papers last week.... d.l. and registration, ....


i've been asked for i.d. when using my credit card, writing checks... and don't even think about getting on an airplane without i.d...

try registering your kid for school. ...birth cert and immunization record...that's not just i.d., that's medical history....

phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world(outside of mexico city)...not arizona...not the u.s.,,,2nd in the the world...you think those are americans kidnapping people?..

something needs to be done...

Agree weasal. And DTB, thanks for another irrelevant post where you are wishing to start an argument. As I said, I was just making a comment.
 

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Great job avoiding the question. Another example of run on sentence king Skeet winning another debate.

Debate??All I see is you using vulgar language calling someone a moron with no concrete facts to support your side.Indians??The Indians have it made in this country.

We took what was rightfully ours.As settlers in this country we did the best thing that could EVER of happened to America.The Indians are treated pretty good IMO.

OH TU if you do respond to this can you leave the vulgarity out of it?It gets old.Thanks in advance.
 

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We took what was rightfully ours.As settlers in this country we did the best thing that could EVER of happened to America.The Indians are treated pretty good IMO.

What was rightfully ours? Is that how you see it? Doesn't surprise me at all. You don't have a problem killing civilians so what is the big deal with killing some Indians. You are a fucking joke.

The Indians are treated pretty good? What planet do you live on? Have you ever talked to an Indian? Those jews were treated pretty well in the concentration camps. WTF? I seriously can't believe you had the fucking nerve to post this BS.
 

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Who is an Indian on this board. I have to point this post out. This is on the level of something Ray, Hedgy or Skul would post.

There you go again twisting facts with vulgarity.The Indians were compensated pretty fairly for there transgressions.Were they pushed out?Technically yes,but you can't say they were not compensated .

They have there own land.Many own casinos(or the land) which in turn provides decent money.What was done is done and probably worked out for the best for all involved.Why do you feel you need to swear to get your point across?Seriously enough.
 

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There you go again twisting facts with vulgarity.The Indians were compensated pretty fairly for there transgressions.Were they pushed out?Technically yes,but you can't say they were not compensated .

They have there own land.Many own casinos(or the land) which in turn provides decent money.What was done is done and probably worked out for the best for all involved.Why do you feel you need to swear to get your point across?Seriously enough.

How about we give you a portion of what your property is worth and dump you in some ghetto? What a fucking joke.

As for my language, if you weren't such a dick it wouldn't be necessary.
 

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There you go again twisting facts with vulgarity.The Indians were compensated pretty fairly for there transgressions.Were they pushed out?Technically yes,but you can't say they were not compensated .

They have there own land.Many own casinos(or the land) which in turn provides decent money.What was done is done and probably worked out for the best for all involved.Why do you feel you need to swear to get your point across?Seriously enough.

That is a crazy comment there.

If you honestly think that they were treated fairly then you have zero knowledge of history.

Basically a genocide is excused by allowing the few that are left to run casinos, thats some logical thinking there.

Lets face facts here we came to their land and did our very best to wipe them from the earth.
 

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They went from a population of around ten million to a population of 237 thousand.

That is just staggering.

I know as a country we do not teach children the bad stuff that we have done as a country but this is right at the top of the list of atrocities committed in the world all time.
 

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bus them back , bring in the army clean the state up! those por people out there have to live with these animals:sadwave:
 

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Debate??All I see is you using vulgar language calling someone a moron with no concrete facts to support your side.Indians??The Indians have it made in this country.

We took what was rightfully ours.As settlers in this country we did the best thing that could EVER of happened to America.The Indians are treated pretty good IMO.

OH TU if you do respond to this can you leave the vulgarity out of it?It gets old.Thanks in advance.

I'm still in complete shock over your comments. I think its time to pack up your shit and move where we tell you to move. Don't worry about your family. Half of them can't come with you because they are dead. You have two hours. Take what you want. Lets throw you in a ghetto because its whats best for you. Fuck you neo-cons make me laugh.
 

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A Note from the Editor: If Jobs are Number One, End Mass Immigration

By Wayne Lutton, Ph.D
Volume 20, Number 2 (Winter 2009-2010)
Issue theme: "Timeout! The case for a moratorium on legal immigration."

In his State of the Union address, President Obama declared that ?jobs must be our Number One focus in 2010.? Yet nowhere did he acknowledge the need to end the importation of new workers who compete with Americans for whatever jobs may become available in the comings months and years.

Over 8.5 million jobs have been lost since the onset of the deepest recession since the 1930s. Merrill Lynch estimates our real unemployment rate jumped from 13.9 percent in February 2009 to 17.3 percent a year later, which include Americans who have been laid off from full-time positions and are now working part-time, and those who have simply stopped looking for work, as well as workers whose unemployment benefits have run out. The official unemployment figure, now at 10 percent, represents only those Americans currently receiving unemployment checks. It is not a comprehensive estimate of employment displacement.

Obama spent his first year in office pursuing policy initiatives unrelated to economic recovery. As we were going to press, key Democrats and Republicans in the Senate reached bipartisan agreement on key provisions. Senate majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) told reporters, ?We feel that the American people need a message. The message that they need is that we?re doing something about jobs.? The average American has no idea how many more foreign-born job seekers, both legal and illegal immigrants combined, as well as ?temporary? employment-visa holders, continue to enter the United States every year.

As the contributors to this issue of The Social Contract argue, a Moratorium on Immigration, that is, a suspension of immigrant entries, would provide a break so that any new jobs would go to Americans now out of work and younger people entering the labor market. This would also provide an opportunity to hold a real national debate on immigration policies that best serve the long-term interests of the American majority. Other than the spouses and dependent, minor, never-married children of U.S. citizens, no immigrants should be allowed to settle here during the term of the Immigration Moratorium. This is one simple way to create jobs for American citizens.

About the author

Wayne Lutton, Ph.D, is editor of The Social Contract.
 

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George Carlin on Indians.

Now the Indians. I call them Indians because that's what they are. They're Indians. There's nothing wrong with the word Indian. "First of all, it's important to know that the word Indian does not derive from Columbus mistakenly believing he had reached 'India.' India was not even called by that name in 1492; it was known as Hindustan.

More likely, the word Indian comes from Columbus's description of the people he found here. He was an Italian, and did not speak or write very good Spanish, so in his written accounts he called the Indians, "Una gente in Dios." A people in God. In God. In Dios. Indians. It's a perfectly noble and respectable word.

As far as calling them 'Americans' is concerned, do I even have to point out what an insult this is? ----- We steal their hemisphere, kill twenty or so million of them, destroy five hundred separate cultures, herd the survivors onto the worst land we can find, and now we want to name them after ourselves? It's appalling. Haven't we done enough damage? Do we have to further degrade them by tagging them with the repulsive name of their conquerors?

You know, you'd think it would be a fairly simple thing to come over to this continent, commit genocide, eliminate the forests, dam up the rivers, build our malls and massage parlors, sell our blenders and whoopee cushions, poison ourselves with chemicals, and let it go at that. But no. We have to compound the insult."...

I'm glad the Indians have gambling casinos now. It makes me happy that dimwitted white people are losing their rent money to the Indians. Maybe the Indians will get lucky and win their country back. Probably wouldn't want it. Look at what we did to it."
 

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We as Americans don't want the Mexicans sent bk

We as Americans don't want the Mexicans sent bk

We just want the Illegals sent back....We are not racist...We just don't want people here who are breaking the law and breaking our bank.
 
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