yes..but do any of those things listed qualify him as the best or one of the best presidents of all time ?....not in my opinion.
the ones that i listed had much bigger impacts on american lives....
"Best" U.S. President
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yes..but do any of those things listed qualify him as the best or one of the best presidents of all time ?....not in my opinion.
the ones that i listed had much bigger impacts on american lives....
this is the statement i was responding to. you changed the subject. i have no idea if jfk is one of the best or not. all i know is there was a significant historical dent during his time.
To quote the originator of the thread: "Define "best" as you see fit."
I don't know that duration should be the overall determinant of best, necessarily. As I said, until I look at it more, I'm not picking, but I also think that Kennedy is a pretty accepted "good" president.
I don't know that duration should be the overall determinant of best, necessarily. As I said, until I look at it more, I'm not picking, but I also think that Kennedy is a pretty accepted "good" president.
Ronald Reagan never met "ANY" challenges that "WE" faced as a country or world ????? . That's hard to believe. That's funny. I was around at that time, maybe I missed something, I guess I'll go back to the history books and check again. What is your major malfunction ??? You gotta be kidding me !!!
Definitely.
But the 'Bay of Pigs' was not among his greatest moments. In fact, it was a disgrace. >>>>>>>>>(smurphy)
Al' s list is pretty accurate in my book, although I would include JFK , I don't hold it against him some idiot killed him before his time. I think he would have accomplished some great things. Maybe would have totally avoided Vietnam, he also accomplished lot regarding civil rights.
listen bryanz....i answered the question that samayam posed in the title of this thread. it's just my opinion...it doesn't mean that i'm right...it doesn't mean that i'm wrong...it's just an opinion.
i think reagan ranks up there but i put the ones that i listed above him...no big deal.
kosar....i don't think the russians were involved in the bay of pigs(that was a fiasco)...are you thinking of the cuban missle crisiis (that was good moment in jfk's presidency).
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my list of jfk stuff was "dents" in response to ar saying that he wasnt prez long enough to have a significant impact. i was not listing as all being positivie. i just know they were big deals. ....hell, i listed the footage of his assassination. just seems that in 3 years, he was involved in a lot of things that will be remembered forever.
Clinton's the best one I can fairly evaluate. Way better than war-mongering Dubya and his dad.
i just dont understand all the Reagan bashing at all. guy has balls of steel and there will never be a president like him again, those kinds of people just arent around anymore.
You don't have to be around when a president is in office to judge what they've done. I would even argue it helps to NOT to have been around. I don't think it's possible to truly evaluate a president in the grand scheme of things until at least 25 years after his presidency ends.
all you people blowing Reagan, must be movie lovers or something
1) ultimate flipflop, was Democrat for more than most his life, supported Democrats until middle '60s
2) liar, after failing election in 76 to Nixon, cut deal to get votes from Ford, and promised him vp, then screw him for hwb.
3) supported terrorism, exactly what we are against now, called them freedom fighters
4) caused biggest banking crisis ever in country history, cost country 150 billion
5) caused USA 2 go from biggest creditor in world to biggest debtor, 3 trillion
6) grotesque liar 300 "I don't recall"
1) ultimate flipflop, was Democrat for more than most his life, supported Democrats until middle '60s
2) liar, after failing election in 76 to Nixon, cut deal to get votes from Ford, and promised him vp, then screw him for hwb.
3) supported terrorism, exactly what we are against now, called them freedom fighters
4) caused biggest banking crisis ever in country history, cost country 150 billion
5) caused USA 2 go from biggest creditor in world to biggest debtor, 3 trillion
6) grotesque liar 300 "I don't recall"
and he open the door for all the greedy ceo to hire scabs and crush unions. Turning americans against american. Most people who like him like him because in my lifetime most neocons were so bad he gets the pitty vote. Didn't he also get caught selling weapons to the enemy?
Of course the USSR wasn't involved with the Bay of Pigs.
And of course the Cuban Missile Crisis was a stand-off that Kennedy won. Please read my prior post again.
