Bombing attempt in England?

[Chadman]

Leave it to Freeze to totally leave the planet and the subject, just blasting the leftist looneys and the media for measures enacted by the right wing and administration nominated officials.

Nice try again...nothing based on substance, just labeling and namecalling based on NOTHING of truth.

You guys tick it up to red, and blame the ACLU.

PRICELESS.

 

[djv]

Im still worried about the big find in Florida. Some guys were going to blow the Sear's Tower. Where they go? No answer to that and know we got another to work on. Dam they keep the press busy.
Get's hard to know fact from BS. And all the press and new's are guilty. Even great shows at least he pro claims him self great O'Reilly. Talk about them all feeding the flames.

 

[dr. freeze]

Leave it to Freeze to totally leave the planet and the subject, just blasting the leftist looneys and the media for measures enacted by the right wing and administration nominated officials.

Nice try again...nothing based on substance, just labeling and namecalling based on NOTHING of truth.

You guys tick it up to red, and blame the ACLU.

PRICELESS.

http://www.aclu.org/racialjustice/racialprofiling/index.html

read about it yourself and get your head out of the sand

 

[dawgball]

I think this is a bigger deal than we are giving it credit for, and I agree with yyz's stance.

How are the measures that they have taken helped?

The only by-product that I can think of is that they could have possibly made would-be terrorists not to show up. But if that is the case, then are they personally interviewing or at least "tagging" each individual that did not show up for a scheduled flight yesterday after this was announced? Would seem logical to me.

As far as profiling, I just don't get how there is any logic in NOT profiling. I can guarantee you that I was profiled on a few trips pre-9/11 because I usually travel pretty grungy and they were looking for some dumb shit like weed. But I was a young, white, fraternity male, and Jesse ain't looking out for me.

 

[Chadman]

its guys like Eddie Haskill who would rather us have little old ladies give up their toothpaste and dentures than to search every arab man age 15-55 who gets on an airplane which would give us any resemblance of real safety

This is what I was referring to in my comment. Saying that the left would rather have the measures enacted yesterday than racial profiling. I don't think the left had much to do with the actions taken yesterday.

As for racial profiling, I think it is sensible in this day and age, especially in situations like this. I agree with you that there should be more checking and profiling. I know from past airline employment that there has been terror/racial profiling done way back in the 80's and probably before, as far as ticketing and purchasing tickets. And that was in SW Missouri, for crying out loud.

I would not agree with the ACLU if their position was that airlines can not engage in some form of profiling. Law enforcement does it all the time. Seems prudent to me.

Very little in life or these situations are absolute. You guys linking and labeling anyone with a different opinion that you have is more of the same crap that this administration makes bank on, however. With us or against us, I believe is the battle cry.

 

[Jabberwocky]

as a defender of civil liberties, I have to chime in that the ACLU's stance on profiling is well intentioned but not practical in certain situations (like Arabs getting on planes). The statement on their website "Arabs Muslims and South Asians are no more likely than whites to be terrorists" is totally ridiculous. Of course there are "whites" who are terrorists, but to say that an Arab Muslim is no more likely to be a terrorist than anyone else?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Dear Doctor:

My view on the entire airport security thing is that it is a bunch of whooie (now how's that for a word you haven't heard forever). In my best Thurston Howell, the III impersonation, "Whooie, I tell you, whooie". Seriously, window dressing for the masses.

If an arab, or a little old lady with dentures, for that matter, wants to blow up a plane in the name of Jesus, Allah, Khoteck, or Merv Griffin they are going to do it. Hell, just watch 24 to see how easy it can be done (theres no Jack Bauer in real life).

Too many air travellers and too many ways to get explosives on board to ever stop this problem. Only real way to do it is the hard way. Education and intelligence, two things this administration has none of.

If you really want good and effective airport security, why don't we do it like the Israeli's do it... interview each passenger. And not by some moron, drooling, minion, TSA employee. In addition, why don't we spend the majority of our efforts (money) going after the bad guys (like Bin Laden) instead of prevention and murdering Iraqi's.

Well I've been saying that for 3 years now. Just another Haskell Moment of Brilliance.

Eddie

 

[gardenweasel]

""If you really want good and effective airport security, why don't we do it like the Israeli's do it... interview each passenger. And not by some moron, drooling, minion, TSA employee.""

bravo...:clap: ...wonderful edward...

unfortunately...the politically correct/multi-culti aclu types aren`t having any of it,counselor...

"These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen."

Umir Hussain, 24, London E14
Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17
Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17
Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17
Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe
Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17
Cossor Ali, 24, London E17
Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham
Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17
Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17
Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington
Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17
Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe
Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10
Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe
Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe
Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17
Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5
Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest

and william demarest as "uncle charlie"



anyone know what the "mohammed" over/under was for this list? .....

 

[smurphy]

anyone know what the "mohammed" over/under was for this list? .....

Oh man, I would have put the Muhammad O/U at about 6 for a team of 21. It went way under - they were even beaten out by Hussain.

I keep expecting to see Prince Naseem Hammed on one of these Brit-Muslim lists. He would have made a pretty good hijacker at his peak. Dude bob and weave his way right to cockpit, probably without even spilling his explosive gatorade.

 

[gardenweasel]

lol...they caught a couple of the egyptian students in my old hometown.....
caught `em in dundalk, maryland......

i called an old city cop friend of mine and asked him how they caught `em....his reply to me was.....

"no mullets"......

 

[smurphy]

What were the Egyptians doing? Plotting or fleeing?

 

[gardenweasel]

they don`t really know yet......not much being said......they were staying with some muslim pizza shop owner....

bro,we`re screwed already...even if no bombs explode....

i see guys like yyz getting upset by all this airport stuff...and i understand...

i know that if i`m forced to watch "big momma's house 2" on the flight from jfk to istanbul(just sayin`) because I can't bring my ipod on board the plane, the terrorists have already won.....

 

[smurphy]

I'd rather drink explosive toothpaste than watch a Martin Lawrence movie.

 

[ferdville]

I would have to think about that one for a while.

 

[gardenweasel]

I'd rather drink explosive toothpaste than watch a Martin Lawrence movie.

:142smilie

ferd..that can only mean you haven`t seen martin lawrence in drag....

creepier than peter,paul and mary used to be...


(uh-oh...i hope chad isn`t a p.p.& m. fan)

 

[Chadman]

Damn, here we go again. Why do you have to go after an all time classic group with dozens of top 10 hits like...oh...sorry...wait...I don't like them either...

I think I was taken in by a late night commercial for their greatest hits, drunk, after watching Jenifer Aniston's leg-up-to-her-ass-cheek flash on Letterman that night. It all seemed good, then.

But, I do take exception to the Martin Lawrence rip. I thought the movie he did with Tim Robbins was hysterical - one of my all time favorites. That was a damn funny movie, can't remember the name now. God Time Robbins was funny in that one. Of course, I'll now get slammed for the Robbins/Sarandon liberal lean, but oh well.

Loved the over/under Mohammed reference, GW. That was also a classic. But, does Skybook offer the "one letter off" bonus for a +$500 deposit and accept Muhammed in the wager? Also wondering if there is a Fantasy Terrorism League yet, where you can pick your terror team and get points for a successful mission.

If that last one offended anyone, or anyone has had a friend or loved one hurt or lost to an incident, I sincerely apologize. It's just that things have gotten so damn serious and sad of late, it just broke funny in my little head. I hope it's taken in the way it was meant, to be a joke. And so it goes.

 

[gardenweasel]

ahhh,my man chad...i`m glad you aren`t p.o.`ed at my feeble attempts at humor....

you never know what pushes who`s buttons....

no offense intended...

it`s all good...

 

[Chadman]

It is, in fact, all good, gw. With you, anyway. Carry on.

 

[ferdville]

We all need to learn to take a joke - that is for sure.

 

[smurphy]

Dimpled Chadman.