Boxing 11/25 - 11/27

Quanah

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W O W !!!!!!!

I have had bad beats in the fight game, but I don't think I've ever seen a beat as bad as the OVER prop in the Boise State college football game tonight.

A field goal needed for the OVER to hit, and Boise's kicker missed TWICE !!!!!!!!

From 26 and from 29 !!!!!!!!!!

:scared :scared :scared :scared :scared

Dude better hide out for awhile.....they are going to find him motionless and gagged with blue turf somewhere in Idaho

I by and large stick to boxing, but like to play around with a little football now and then. Nothing big, but just a little fun.

How's this for fun Ghost? I made a play on the Nevada money line to win a unit @ +425. I haven't enjoyed a football game that much in a long time.
 
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Abraham-Froch

Abraham-Froch

If there was ever a fight to stay away from for me, this is it, and I ain't going anywhere near. My best assessment is that Abraham is the 'obvious' play, but I just keep thinking of ways that Froch can/could pull it out. Abraham is very heavy handed, but his propensity to wait and wait could cost him here. Still Froch is a bit sloppy, not the quick darting boxer that Dirrell is??? Just can't pick a winner. Absolutely forced to choose, I'll say Abraham, but I'll sit way back and enjoy this one.
 

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Live Dogs??

Live Dogs??

In full understanding that close don't get you squat in the boxing-betting game, I think these three guys are 'live' dogs. Forced to choose, I would say that all three favs come through, but I do think that the lines are inflated, and certainly wouldn't go on the favs, or even include them in any parlays:

Sakio Bika (+650) - Ward calls himself the 'Son of God', and he's looked a lot like that in recent fights. He has lately seemed exceptional, near perfect in the ring. Still, I get the feeling that his plate is full tomorrow night. I can certainly see the scenario of Bika getting widely outboxed, much like the Bute fight. He was a handful for Calzaghe though, and has improved since. Bika is VERY strong. I can see him bulling his way in and making Ward uncomfortable. Ward is human, and he has been shaken and down in past fights. Every fighter gets unexpectedly tested, and I think this will happen with Bika. Gotta like Ward of course, but I would not be entirely shocked to see Bika knock him out.

Manuel Vargas (+925) - Segura has been a destroyer lately, and with the fight at fly he may be very strong tomorrow night. Still, Segura's only weakness is that he has been and can be outboxed. He has been in the past, and widely by Canchilla. He seems to have sorted that out, but I think the odds are discounting the fact that Vargas is a good fighter and boxer. Don't know why this isn't a title defense, as Vargas is certainly good enough for a shot? Vargas has only been overmatched against Nonito who was WAY too big for him, plus he he came in on a day's notice. It does seem that Vargas can be intimidated, and maybe Segura will just bull-rush and walk right through him. Fight is just 10 though, and I would not be overly shocked to see Vargas box a good fight and give Segura an unexpected go.

Ricardo Dominguez (+400) - Dominguez is still a young guy, and has shown considerable improvement. He recently went 12 solid rounds with Humberto Soto. I think Vazquez is a very good boxer, and deserving of his title, but maybe he is just a little flattered by recent victories over easily outboxed Prescott and Kim? The Prescott fight was very close remember and Breidis has since proven himself way overrated. Likely result is a 12 round decision for Vazquez, but I think Dominguez hangs with him.
 

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Weekend plays

Weekend plays

Not gonna get the chance to post early tomorrow, so gots to get my words in now:

A.Berto - ITD, UNDER 10.5 - BIG
Played the under where ITD was not available. I think Hernandez is out of his depth here. He's never been ko'd but looks frail to me and has been in trouble in some fights. R.Garcia was gonna ko him if not for a cut. With a Pac fight being seriously discussed I think Berto will assert himself and shine here. Berto is a strong guy and I say he chops Hernandez down and stops him early to mid.

M.Katsidis - medium rare
Lots of us on board and it should be fun. Generous odds make this very playable. We know the deal. Marquez getting on in years, and has not looked exceptional at 135. Casamayor gave him a very tough fight. Kat very strong and has shown technical improvement. I like our chances!!

Not wanting to spread myself too thin, I've also made very small plays on a couple o/u's that I like:

Helenius-Levin UNDER 5.5 (-135)
Helenius developing nicely. Not a great ko % but has 7 ko's in last 8 wins. He's settling down and is a big strong guy. Levin seemed shot years ago, has a suspect chin, and has not gone rounds, or fought anyone decent in recent comeback bid. I don't think he hangs, and I think Helenius will want to look impressive at home in Finland. 5.5 not so deep, which is what keeps this scaled.

Vazquez-Dominguez OVER 11.5 (-160)
Long way to go, but barring shenanigans I say this goes the route. Vazquez with obvious good beard, going the distance with Prescott and Bradley. He doesn't have a lot of punching power though, and if Dominguez can go 12 with Soto, he can go the route with Vazquez.

Good luck guys! It should be a fun day and night!
 

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Oh man, love ya Punchy!! I went to a translator myself, which told me that arret meant 'judgement'?? I was a little suspicious because the only other time 'arret' was used was to describe the 1st rd. ko in the chick fight?? But why didn't they say the round, or post any description of the fight like the others??

So, as it is I still got hope...and I'm back to waiting for boxrec to post the frickin' result?

Done, per Boxrec, Takam TKO 3! Show me the money! Nice pick under backers.
 

gardenweasel

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"the bunker"
ward via decision/abraham-froch starts rd 8 parlay...laying "roughly" 1 to win 1.2(and change)......

banking on the usual abraham slow start and hoping bika doesn`t get d.q.`ed(in oakland)...

also hedging ...abraham inside/ +174(has 4 stoppages from rd 10-12 in his last 8 wins...and almost got a 5th vs dirrell)...
 
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My picks usually suck

but here I go

Marquez to win inside the distance. Marquez hasn't looked old to me, his face does get jacked up and swole, but his skills are still top notch I think. With Kats cuts I take the even money stoppage bet.

Also like Dominguez. He fought well against Soto. Soto was probably not in top shape, but Dominguez showed quick enough hands. Just needs to be confident in coming forward more often.
 

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Quiet week for me. Better value right around the corner

-kats +270 smallish-Marq will more than likely weather the storms and come out on top but good plus number is worth a tickle. Hopefully Kats can bust up the old timer. This WILL be a cracker and possibly FOTY.

-under on Berto-115 med. Hern nothing special. Berto's speed will be the dfifference early on and then his pop should get him out of there around 8 or so... me thinks. Berto not the real deal but has more than enough to get the job done here.

-No wager on AA/Froch. It's a pick em IMO and I expect ebbs and flows in the fight. I've gone back and forth so no bet for me. Just going to sit back and enjoy.



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My bets for an EPIC Sweet Science Saturday:

Helenius UNDER 5.5
Robert in front of home crowd, and Levin took 3 years off - that's a long ass vacation

Abraham
Dude looks like a caged animal on the 360 countdown show - Froch will pay for the sins of Dirrell

Caballero ITD
Berto ITD

Al Haymon HBO mismatches

Bika
Ward is overpriced - Andre will win a decision but I got +700 and that is worth a tickle

Parlay of Berto, Caballero, Helenius, and Miguel Vasquez.
I am opposite the board here - I think Vasquz is way too slick for Dominguez. If he can go the route with Canelo and Bradley, this dude Dominguez aint gonna take him out. And if it goes the distance, the local fave is going to take it. I like Quanah's OVER play here a lot.

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MICHAEL KATSIDIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE - come on Michael you can do it brother !

:0corn :0corn :0corn

The card in Finland starts soon - good luck everyone !
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now, Katsidis +280 in tijuana

i'm getting hornier :0074

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I got:
Helenius by ko
I dont like the under 5.5 prop, though I think he can do it! He should really stop Levin eventually!


Abraham straight
Abraham by late ko
over 6, 8, 9rounds
and a bit on abraham by decision
I got good odds on Abraham, IMO this fight goes some rounds, Froch is tough! Hope Abraham gets a liate stoppage, that would be great!!


Berto ko
I think Graham brought this to my attention!
Hernandez was almost stopped by Garcia, Berto should win by ko!

Bika vs. Ward over 8, 9 12
small on Ward dec
small on Bika straight
I dont get why you get only -1100 on Ward but -300 on over 9!
Barring some shenanigans, Ward wont stop Bika!
Bika is tough and a good puncher!

I have some small bets on the Marquez Katsidis fight as well.
Katsidis is young and strong, but Marquez is still classy! Late ko or Dec for Marquez looks like the likeliest scenario, though the odds on Katsidis are tempting. I like this fight to go in the middle rounds!
 

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Zerwas
Those look solid
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I wish I could get Helenius by KO, but I am limited to the 5.5 - hopefully the big guy can do it early

I agree with you on the Ward fight - Bika is VERY tough to stop and Ward decision looks likely

However, I got really screwed on the Kessler fight - I had a big play on Ward by 12 round decision, and then the ref stops it on that silly cut (under the eye, ridiculous)

In Oakland, Ward is treated like Jesus Christ. I think Ward by decision OR Tech decision is a good bet, but you have to pay more for it.

Really, I hate to say it, but I hope Bika knocks him silly. Ward is a way better fighter than I ever believed he would be, but he gets EVERY FIGHT in Oakland. Every one.
 

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Artur Hein is fighting now in Finland

Helenius bout still a few away

Piispanen fight first I imagine
 

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"the bunker"
listening to the brits on the stream...and they have a sort of fatalistic air about froch......

if the brits aren`t talkin` their boy up,that tells me something...
 

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Underdog Rasilla beat Piispanen's ass the last few rounds
let's see if he gets a fair shake in Finland
 
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