First bet of the week has to be Johansson - played well at the end of last year and has come out in fine style this season - 125/1 at Sporting Odds seems a bit OTT
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Oh come Ian.... how did you edit your new thread time to 5 mins before mine...??? Impossible!!! Something dodgy going on 
I will add my post to yours and hope Stan deletes mine...
Nearly fell off my chair at the 50/1 quoted by Sporting Odds for Jose Maria. A streak player who is should be followed when in the groove. Ended last year with 16-16-2-1. Started this year with a warm-up 45th at Phoenix 69-69-73-69.
Then an excellent 5th at Pebble Beach. Encouraging 13th on his debut here last year.
I will add my post to yours and hope Stan deletes mine...
Nearly fell off my chair at the 50/1 quoted by Sporting Odds for Jose Maria. A streak player who is should be followed when in the groove. Ended last year with 16-16-2-1. Started this year with a warm-up 45th at Phoenix 69-69-73-69.
Then an excellent 5th at Pebble Beach. Encouraging 13th on his debut here last year.
Sorry to do this bmad, but Ollie was my first bet this week...not a good omen!
Perhaps I should go back and have a bit more on!? 50/1 good value.
Added a little more 66 to the 80 for Augusta too!
Perhaps I should go back and have a bit more on!? 50/1 good value.
Added a little more 66 to the 80 for Augusta too!
Camelot has dropped lines early and caught them as they were being dropped.Here are the 72 holes I played.
Maruyama +110 over Flesch
Sluman + 130 over Daly
Funk -110 over Lowery
Donald +120 over Jerry Smith
Jay D Blake -110 over Senden
Lancaster +105 over Allen
Agree on Olazabal here and Masters Clive.
Am currently waiting to see if and what place odds Oly has on
Langer,Olazabal,Lickliter,K Sutherland and Maruyama and will go from there.
Maruyama +110 over Flesch
Sluman + 130 over Daly
Funk -110 over Lowery
Donald +120 over Jerry Smith
Jay D Blake -110 over Senden
Lancaster +105 over Allen
Agree on Olazabal here and Masters Clive.
Am currently waiting to see if and what place odds Oly has on
Langer,Olazabal,Lickliter,K Sutherland and Maruyama and will go from there.
Been checking SD local papers to see if I can get low down on new greens on south course.This is all I can come up with at present but should get some views from the pros in next day or two.
The new greens should down play the course form a tad for the old timers.
http://www.uniontrib.com/sports/20020204-9999_1s4buick.html
The new greens should down play the course form a tad for the old timers.
http://www.uniontrib.com/sports/20020204-9999_1s4buick.html
What I think is going to hurt Ollie at Augusta is the added length, its sad that they had to do the redesign. I think its safe to say you'll be able to narrow the legit contenders to a dozen or less. They've moved back the tees on about 8 holes including the 18th which was moved back 55 yds.
Outright plays
Outright plays
Tom Lehman to win 40/1 e.w. @ Sporting Odds
Not a frequent visitor to Torrey Pines, but with finishes of 6/15/13/3/13 his last five visits, he should be a regular. The recent changes made to the South course to make it a future U.S. Open site will suit Lehman. He recorded his only round over-par this season on Sunday, so no worries about current form.
Bob Estes to win 40/1 e.w. @ Blue Square
Significantly higher price at Blue Square than elsewhere so will probably not last. Not a great course record, but the changes will also suit Estes. He missed the cut in the Phoenix Open, but given that this was the first time that he had finished outside the top-10 since the PGA Championship in August, it can be easily ignored.
Kevin Sutherland to win 40/1 e.w. available generally
In an event in which eight of the last ten winners have been from California, the third selection is not surprising. Sutherland has finishes of 3/4/5/13 in the last four years and has been under-par in 21 of 23 career rounds on these courses. The course changes may hurt him, but his record at Torrey Pines is hard to ignore
Outright plays
Tom Lehman to win 40/1 e.w. @ Sporting Odds
Not a frequent visitor to Torrey Pines, but with finishes of 6/15/13/3/13 his last five visits, he should be a regular. The recent changes made to the South course to make it a future U.S. Open site will suit Lehman. He recorded his only round over-par this season on Sunday, so no worries about current form.
Bob Estes to win 40/1 e.w. @ Blue Square
Significantly higher price at Blue Square than elsewhere so will probably not last. Not a great course record, but the changes will also suit Estes. He missed the cut in the Phoenix Open, but given that this was the first time that he had finished outside the top-10 since the PGA Championship in August, it can be easily ignored.
Kevin Sutherland to win 40/1 e.w. available generally
In an event in which eight of the last ten winners have been from California, the third selection is not surprising. Sutherland has finishes of 3/4/5/13 in the last four years and has been under-par in 21 of 23 career rounds on these courses. The course changes may hurt him, but his record at Torrey Pines is hard to ignore
Last choice of the week goes to Rodney Pampling 125/1 several places - looks big for a player with good potential with 3 solid finishes in the last 3 weeks
Wortha small dabble at the price is Billy Mayfair 125/1 at Ladbrokes. Had his best finish here for a while with last years 27th including a poor opening round 73-66-68-71 - also played well last time out with an 18th at Phoenix 69-68-69-68.
I think overall he has a better record in Florida than California and he is a player I had in mind for the next swing - but he has won in California - the 1998 Nissan.
I think overall he has a better record in Florida than California and he is a player I had in mind for the next swing - but he has won in California - the 1998 Nissan.
what do you think of Pat Perez @66/1. He grew up playing Torrey Pines. With a solid finish last week 66/1 seems like a good value.
From a short list of 4, Geiberger-K Sutherland-Mayfair & Estes, will go with 2 at this stage;
Geiberger at a general 66/1, and,
K Sutherland at 40's.
Both play the courses well, although it remains to be seen how the south plays this year.
I think I'll take a look at the tee times and weather before considering whether to add either Mayfair or Estes.
I also note the favourable comments for Olly and I would agree that after last weeks effort, if the greens were fast this week he could go real close.
Good Luck.
Geiberger at a general 66/1, and,
K Sutherland at 40's.
Both play the courses well, although it remains to be seen how the south plays this year.
I think I'll take a look at the tee times and weather before considering whether to add either Mayfair or Estes.
I also note the favourable comments for Olly and I would agree that after last weeks effort, if the greens were fast this week he could go real close.
Good Luck.
Ndfan - Did he get his 4 wood fixed? He should do well, home course and won the World Junior Title back in 93 there. After last weeks collapse on the 2 par 5's on the back I don't like his chances of winning, worth a few bucks on a Top 4 at 15 or 20-1 IMO.
It's a good omen Clive, not a bad that we have both done Ollie, there is already too much bad karma here :nono: with Stanley saying this week is like a US Open (ouch! not Ollies best event... but forget that... as he is now in the groove)...and as to Couchpotatoe knocking our 80/1 Masters chances just because of a few extra yards... well! I'm not worried and neither is the Spanish maestro...
I hope these long hitters can find their balls... no matter how far into the trees they have lost them.... and when it comes to the play-off....OK the Spanish maestro may have to go first and his 7 iron approach may land 15ft from the hole and Tiger's wedge may land just 7ft away....but I still won't be worried.... for when after the Spanish maestro sinks his putt, Tiger's will lip out
I hope these long hitters can find their balls... no matter how far into the trees they have lost them.... and when it comes to the play-off....OK the Spanish maestro may have to go first and his 7 iron approach may land 15ft from the hole and Tiger's wedge may land just 7ft away....but I still won't be worried.... for when after the Spanish maestro sinks his putt, Tiger's will lip out
Cacade dropping 72 hole lines as I type.Some interesting unique matches coming up.
playing this one so far
K Sutherland +110 over Funk
playing this one so far
K Sutherland +110 over Funk
Just returned from pub and a bad time to wager...............however (said in very pissed English accent) I can still type......so........
Geiberger 100/1 Oly + place ..very gen Mr AV2
and the field at 10/1 just have to have to have a nibble
Mr Mawuwama - 120/1 - big pwice
Geiberger 100/1 Oly + place ..very gen Mr AV2
and the field at 10/1 just have to have to have a nibble
Mr Mawuwama - 120/1 - big pwice
Outrights: Will play only 1/2 unit place wagers @ Oly again this week primariliy because this tourney has been dominated by long hitters and chalk,with Mick.Love and Woods taking up 3 of the top 4 spots last 2 years. The follwing have had 2nd place finish in past 5 years with exception of Sutherland who has 3 top 5 last 4.All are 10/1 or better and while I haven't been able to confirm rough but all indications from reports and interviews with amatuers is that it is close to US Open which would boost these chances,Janzen in particular.
Maruyama 30/1
Parnevik 12.5/1
Sutherland 11/1
Janzen 10/1
Maruyama 30/1
Parnevik 12.5/1
Sutherland 11/1
Janzen 10/1
