3-0-1 YEAR TO DATE. LET'S CONTINUE WINNING. THIS WEEK'S 72 HOLE MATCHUP SHALL BE:
S. CINK -110 OVER F. FUNK @ MILLENIUM
HAPPY GAMING.
S. CINK -110 OVER F. FUNK @ MILLENIUM
HAPPY GAMING.
Buick Invitational
- Thread starter Ian
- Start date
72-hole plays
72-hole plays
Jay Don Blake to beat John Senden -130 @ Camelot
Blake has a great record in this event. A winner in 1991, his finishes in the last five years read 11/27/mc/14/7. With a top-3 finish already this season and the course changes likely to suit his game far more than Senden's, he should beat the Australian making his debut at Torrey Pines.
Fred Funk to beat Rory Sabbatini -118 @ Easybets
With a best of 52nd in three visits, Sabbatini was finding these courses hard enough before the changes. With accuracy more at a premium, he should find it difficult to maintain his recent good form. Funk has been top-30 in his last three visits and in his last three events. Solid enough to beat Sabbatini.
Jerry Kelly to beat Craig Stadler -140 @ WSEX
Stadler may have a great record in this event, but he is not the player who recorded his eighth consecutive top-30 in this event two years ago (that stretch includes victory in 1994), while Kelly has had a great start to the season; his missed cut in the 'giggle golf' is easy to ignore. Two players going to opposing directions.
Billy Mayfair to beat Peter Lonard -111 @ Centrebet [2 units]
Lonard enters this event after two weeks on the Australasian Tour, tiredness will surely take its effect, particularly having never played this course previously. Mayfair does have a mixed record in this event, but he is very accurate off the tee and should welcome the course changes.
72-hole plays
Jay Don Blake to beat John Senden -130 @ Camelot
Blake has a great record in this event. A winner in 1991, his finishes in the last five years read 11/27/mc/14/7. With a top-3 finish already this season and the course changes likely to suit his game far more than Senden's, he should beat the Australian making his debut at Torrey Pines.
Fred Funk to beat Rory Sabbatini -118 @ Easybets
With a best of 52nd in three visits, Sabbatini was finding these courses hard enough before the changes. With accuracy more at a premium, he should find it difficult to maintain his recent good form. Funk has been top-30 in his last three visits and in his last three events. Solid enough to beat Sabbatini.
Jerry Kelly to beat Craig Stadler -140 @ WSEX
Stadler may have a great record in this event, but he is not the player who recorded his eighth consecutive top-30 in this event two years ago (that stretch includes victory in 1994), while Kelly has had a great start to the season; his missed cut in the 'giggle golf' is easy to ignore. Two players going to opposing directions.
Billy Mayfair to beat Peter Lonard -111 @ Centrebet [2 units]
Lonard enters this event after two weeks on the Australasian Tour, tiredness will surely take its effect, particularly having never played this course previously. Mayfair does have a mixed record in this event, but he is very accurate off the tee and should welcome the course changes.
Outrights:
Woods +280-"new" playing course-new challenge
Lehman 32-1
Janzen 40-1
Longshots:
Kuchar 85-1
Waldorf 60-1
Scott Simpson 125-1
72 Hole Matchups:
Woods -280 over Estes Will lay the "wood" for this m/up *BEST*
Lehman -130 over Parny
Kuchar +105 over Kelly
Waldorf -130 over Chamblee
Mayfair +100 over JEdwards
Good Luck to eveyone this week
Woods +280-"new" playing course-new challenge
Lehman 32-1
Janzen 40-1
Longshots:
Kuchar 85-1
Waldorf 60-1
Scott Simpson 125-1
72 Hole Matchups:
Woods -280 over Estes Will lay the "wood" for this m/up *BEST*
Lehman -130 over Parny
Kuchar +105 over Kelly
Waldorf -130 over Chamblee
Mayfair +100 over JEdwards
Good Luck to eveyone this week
My outright plays for this week:
Tiger Woods win only 3-1
Bob Estes each way 40-1
Joel Edwards each way 80-1
Tiger Woods win only 3-1
Bob Estes each way 40-1
Joel Edwards each way 80-1
My matchups for this week:
Edwards -120 vs Mayfair @ Camelot
Cink -110 vs Janzen @ Camelot
Flesch -105 vs Geiberger @ Sportodds
Edwards -120 vs Mayfair @ Camelot
Cink -110 vs Janzen @ Camelot
Flesch -105 vs Geiberger @ Sportodds
YTD:
Matchups: 1-2(-0.90*)
Getting organized and learning lessons. It'll come.
I strongly suspect the genius of Augusta means the changes there will bring added favor to course management and a masterful short game. On the other hand, I'm guessing the changes at Torrey Pines South will bring more of a premium for strong driving.
Matchups @ 1.0*:
Lee Janzen(-110) over Stewart Cink
Jay Don Blake(-130) over John Senden
Vijay Singh(+105) over Phil Mickelson
Outrights @ 0.40*:
Lee Janzen @ 35-1
Generous odds for a hungry champion showing good form.
Matt Kuchar @ 85-1
Not likely to win, but smartly getting his opportunities to contend.
The 18th hole at Pebble Beach has long stood as the finest closing hole in the game, and been a strong contender for the best hole on the face of the earth. The character of the hole has now been irretrievably diminished, and the preposterously indifferent shotmaking that made the grade last week had me very sad.
GL
Matchups: 1-2(-0.90*)
Getting organized and learning lessons. It'll come.
I strongly suspect the genius of Augusta means the changes there will bring added favor to course management and a masterful short game. On the other hand, I'm guessing the changes at Torrey Pines South will bring more of a premium for strong driving.
Matchups @ 1.0*:
Lee Janzen(-110) over Stewart Cink
Jay Don Blake(-130) over John Senden
Vijay Singh(+105) over Phil Mickelson
Outrights @ 0.40*:
Lee Janzen @ 35-1
Generous odds for a hungry champion showing good form.
Matt Kuchar @ 85-1
Not likely to win, but smartly getting his opportunities to contend.
The 18th hole at Pebble Beach has long stood as the finest closing hole in the game, and been a strong contender for the best hole on the face of the earth. The character of the hole has now been irretrievably diminished, and the preposterously indifferent shotmaking that made the grade last week had me very sad.
GL
No surprises here between North and South
Code:
Sub Par Avg.
North 57 70.1
South 16 73.8
Pos. .
1 N S Mathew Goggin -8 64
T2 N S Jay Williamson -7 65
T2 N S Luke Donald -7 65
T4 N S Chris Riley -6 66
T4 N S Tiger Woods -6 66
T6 N S David Frost -5 67
T6 N S David Sutherland -5 67
T6 N S Jerry Smith -5 67
T6 N S Miguel A. Jimenez -5 67
T6 N S Robin Freeman -5 67
T6 N S Stephen Gangluff -5 67
T6 S N Mark O'Meara -5 67
T13 N S Chris Smith -4 68
T13 N S J.L. Lewis -4 68
T13 N S Jason Hill -4 68
T13 N S Jeff Sluman -4 68
T13 N S Kent Jones -4 68
T13 N S Matt Peterson -4 68
T13 N S Paul Goydos -4 68
T13 N S Peter Jacobsen -4 68
T13 N S Skip Kendall -4 68
T13 N S Tommy Tolles -4 68
T13 S N Jay Haas -4 68
T13 S N Lee Porter -4 68
T25 N S Bart Bryant -3 69
T25 N S Brad Elder -3 69
T25 N S Brad Lardon -3 69
T25 N S David Berganio, Jr. -3 69
T25 N S K.J. Choi -3 69
T25 N S Michael Allen -3 69
T25 N S Neal Lancaster -3 69
T25 N S Rich Beem -3 69
T25 N S Scott Dunlap -3 69
T25 N S Steve Lowery -3 69
T25 N S Tim Petrovic -3 69
T25 N S Vijay Singh -3 69
T25 S N Bob Burns -3 69
T25 S N John Daly -3 69
T39 N S Greg Chalmers -2 70
T39 N S John Cook -2 70
T39 N S Kaname Yokoo -2 70
T39 N S Kevin Sutherland -2 70
T39 N S Michael Long -2 70
T39 N S Richie Coughlan -2 70
T39 N S Shaun Micheel -2 70
T39 N S Steve Allan -2 70
T39 S N John Rollins -2 70
T39 S N Lee Janzen -2 70
T39 S N Rory Sabbatini -2 70
T39 S N Steve Flesch -2 70
T39 S N Tim Herron -2 70
T52 N S Bob Heintz -1 71
T52 N S Brenden Pappas -1 71
T52 N S Chris Tidland -1 71
T52 N S Dan Forsman -1 71
T52 N S Duffy Waldorf -1 71
T52 N S Jay Don Blake -1 71
T52 N S Jeff Gove -1 71
T52 N S Joey Sindelar -1 71
T52 N S Jose Maria Olazabal -1 71
T52 N S Matt Kuchar -1 71
T52 N S Mike Sposa -1 71
T52 N S Pat Perez -1 71
T52 N S Per-Ulrik Johansson -1 71
T52 N S Richard Zokol -1 71
T52 N S Tommy Armour III -1 71
T52 N S Toru Taniguchi -1 71
T52 S N Ben Crane -1 71
T52 S N Bob May -1 71
T52 S N Brent Schwarzrock -1 71
T52 S N Brian Watts -1 71
T52 S N Fulton Allem -1 71
T52 S N Jim Carter -1 71
T74 N S Bo Van Pelt E 72
T74 N S Bradley Hughes E 72
T74 N S Carl Paulson E 72
T74 N S Craig Stadler E 72
T74 N S Dennis Paulson E 72
T74 N S Tom Lehman E 72
T74 S N Bernhard Langer E 72
T74 S N Frank Nobilo E 72
T74 S N Fred Funk E 72
T74 S N Greg Kraft E 72
T74 S N Jay Delsing E 72
T74 S N Jeff Brehaut E 72
T74 S N Jeff Maggert E 72
T74 S N John Senden E 72
T74 S N Paul Casey E 72
T74 S N Russ Cochran E 72
T74 S N Steve Pate E 72
T91 N S Brian Bateman 1 73
T91 N S Danny Ellis 1 73
T91 N S David Peoples 1 73
T91 N S Gary Nicklaus 1 73
T91 N S Hidemichi Tanaka 1 73
T91 N S Jesper Parnevik 1 73
T91 N S Katsumasa Miyamoto 1 73
T91 N S Phil Mickelson 1 73
T91 N S Woody Austin 1 73
T91 S N Bob Friend 1 73
T91 S N Brad Benkey 1 73
T91 S N Brian Henninger 1 73
T91 S N Doug Barron 1 73
T91 S N Jeff Gallagher 1 73
T91 S N Jerry Kelly 1 73
T91 S N Jonathan Byrd 1 73
T91 S N Mark Brooks 1 73
T91 S N Rod Pampling 1 73
T91 S N Steve Elkington 1 73
T91 S N Tom Byrum 1 73
T91 S N Tripp Isenhour 1 73
T112 N S Brent Geiberger 2 74
T112 N S John Lieber 2 74
T112 N S Monty Leong 2 74
T112 S N Boo Weekley 2 74
T112 S N Brandt Jobe 2 74
T112 S N Craig Perks 2 74
T112 S N Grant Waite 2 74
T112 S N Harrison Frazar 2 74
T112 S N Ian Leggatt 2 74
T112 S N John Riegger 2 74
T112 S N Paul Claxton 2 74
T112 S N Stewart Cink 2 74
T124 N S Eduardo Herrera 3 75
T124 N S Kenneth Staton 3 75
T124 N S Mark Warman 3 75
T124 S N Billy Mayfair 3 75
T124 S N Bob Estes 3 75
T124 S N Bob Tway 3 75
T124 S N Brett Quigley 3 75
T124 S N Briny Baird 3 75
T124 S N Esteban Toledo 3 75
T124 S N Michael Muehr 3 75
T124 S N Peter Lonard 3 75
T124 S N Phil Tataurangi 3 75
T124 S N Robert Damron 3 75
T124 S N Scott Simpson 3 75
T124 S N Shigeki Maruyama 3 75
T124 S N Spike McRoy 3 75
T124 S N Stephen Ames 3 75
T141 S N Blaine McCallister 4 76
T141 S N Brett Wetterich 4 76
T141 S N Jess Daley 4 76
T141 S N Larry Correa 4 76
T141 S N Mike Hulbert 4 76
T146 S N J.J. Henry 5 77
T146 S N Joel Edwards 5 77
T146 S N Tom Pernice, Jr. 5 77
T149 S N Bill Glasson 6 78
T151 S N Charley Hoffman 6 78
T149 S N Steve Jones 6 78
T151 S N Joe Ogilvie 7 79
T153 S N Chris Perry 10 82
T153 S N J.P. Hayes 10 82
T155 S N Frank Lickliter II 11 83
T155 S N Paul Dietsche 11 83
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Nomad Drat,forgot about your post of this data. Spent over an hour compiling what I could see at a glance.If you don't mind my asking where do you get these charts. I have not been able to find them in this format.
Huge discrepency between courses. They have the South set at 7,568 just short of of the 7607 max. I had gauged bout 4 shot difference which was close.
I think the South having the bottom 16 speaks louder than the few from the South at the top. Unfortunately no book I've seen has failed to take this into consideration. Found only one match with players on different courses and will have to play it as a scalp. Funk +115 over K Sutherland>Oly continuation.
Already have KS @ +110 the other way but would bet this match regardless.KS is currently 2 up @ -2 but with the South to play and current cut is @ -1 so can't say his chances of making cut are iron clad by any means. Still waiting to see if Bet365 will have anything. Tiger looks in good shape but has the South today.
He shot 71 there birding last hole in Pro-Am but don't know bout the tees that day.
http://www.uniontrib.com/sports/golf/buick/20020207-9999_1s7buick.html
Huge discrepency between courses. They have the South set at 7,568 just short of of the 7607 max. I had gauged bout 4 shot difference which was close.
I think the South having the bottom 16 speaks louder than the few from the South at the top. Unfortunately no book I've seen has failed to take this into consideration. Found only one match with players on different courses and will have to play it as a scalp. Funk +115 over K Sutherland>Oly continuation.
Already have KS @ +110 the other way but would bet this match regardless.KS is currently 2 up @ -2 but with the South to play and current cut is @ -1 so can't say his chances of making cut are iron clad by any means. Still waiting to see if Bet365 will have anything. Tiger looks in good shape but has the South today.
He shot 71 there birding last hole in Pro-Am but don't know bout the tees that day.
http://www.uniontrib.com/sports/golf/buick/20020207-9999_1s7buick.html
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I see Stanley has Lickliter as DQ'd for yesterday in the contest.....anybody know what he did? Thanks in advance.
He was going along nicely at +11 when I last saw him!! Assume he decided he didn't want that in his stats!
I'm sure most of you got the email, but Bet365USA is having an interesting wager scenario for Sunday. All singles matches bet on Sunday's 4th round will pay both sides for a tie.
I guess they are looking for some Sunday action with no Super Bowl and no NBA games.
Just a heads up for those that don't have Bet365USA...
I guess they are looking for some Sunday action with no Super Bowl and no NBA games.
Just a heads up for those that don't have Bet365USA...
Mid-point update
Mid-point update
Blake/Senden Trails by 6
Funk/Sabbatini Trails by 6
Kelly/Stadler WON by 4
Mayfair/Lonard LOST (Mayfair withdrew after the 1st round)
Lehman mc
Estes 39th
Sutherland 55th
The erratic nature of this year's PGA Tour continues. Woods struggles to make the cut, Mickelson is boom or bust and the leaderboard has a very unfamiliar look to it yet again. In other words, I'm still struggling on this Tour this year. The outrights are nowhere and the top matchup play loses to a WD - Mayfair had been level with Lonard overnight :nooo:
Mid-point update
Blake/Senden Trails by 6
Funk/Sabbatini Trails by 6
Kelly/Stadler WON by 4
Mayfair/Lonard LOST (Mayfair withdrew after the 1st round)
Lehman mc
Estes 39th
Sutherland 55th
The erratic nature of this year's PGA Tour continues. Woods struggles to make the cut, Mickelson is boom or bust and the leaderboard has a very unfamiliar look to it yet again. In other words, I'm still struggling on this Tour this year. The outrights are nowhere and the top matchup play loses to a WD - Mayfair had been level with Lonard overnight :nooo:
Are Corals on drugs??? Tiger 5/1 favourite when he is freely available at double figures e.g. 16/1 W Hill (not a tip!) everywhere else? Have they got their North's and South's mixed up? :shrug:
At the cut 2-1
Funk/Lowery win
Donald/J Smith win
Mayfair/Edwards loss WD Go down with the rest #@#$%$
7 matches remaining with most having ground to make up which should be no prob on this course
Outrights all four made cut but bringing up the rear. Again on this layout anyone making cut is not out of placing.
3rd rd plays @ Camelot
Cook +140 over Estes
Crane -105 over Goggin
Rollins +105 over Perks
Major rant on WSEX interactives which has to be the biggest con going in golf wagers. Not only do they lock you out while adjusting odds but will not give any opps for buying in modestly before round starts. This is perfect tourney to buy some $2 shares on some anticipated contenders.Here are their $2 offers.
BUICK-GOLF2002 JOSE MARIA OLAZABAL 13021 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MATT KUCHAR 13034 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 PAT PEREZ 13035 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MIGUEL JIMENEZ 13036 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MATHEW GOGGIN 13037 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 KEVIN SUTHERLAND 13014 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 PHIL MICKELSON 13010 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 STEWART CINK 13025 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 JESPER PARNEVIK 13018 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 TOM LEHMAN 13016 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 LEE JANZEN 13020 0 2
Of the 11 over half have missed cut and they won't put up odds on 8 players in sitting currently in 11th or better UNTILL they see where they stand after lockout period at start of tv coverage and if doing well it won't be @ $2 How did Enron miss hiring this linesmaker.:nono:
Funk/Lowery win
Donald/J Smith win
Mayfair/Edwards loss WD
Go down with the rest #@#$%$7 matches remaining with most having ground to make up which should be no prob on this course
Outrights all four made cut but bringing up the rear. Again on this layout anyone making cut is not out of placing.
3rd rd plays @ Camelot
Cook +140 over Estes
Crane -105 over Goggin
Rollins +105 over Perks
Major rant on WSEX interactives which has to be the biggest con going in golf wagers. Not only do they lock you out while adjusting odds but will not give any opps for buying in modestly before round starts. This is perfect tourney to buy some $2 shares on some anticipated contenders.Here are their $2 offers.
BUICK-GOLF2002 JOSE MARIA OLAZABAL 13021 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MATT KUCHAR 13034 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 PAT PEREZ 13035 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MIGUEL JIMENEZ 13036 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 MATHEW GOGGIN 13037 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 KEVIN SUTHERLAND 13014 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 PHIL MICKELSON 13010 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 STEWART CINK 13025 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 JESPER PARNEVIK 13018 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 TOM LEHMAN 13016 0 2
BUICK-GOLF2002 LEE JANZEN 13020 0 2
Of the 11 over half have missed cut and they won't put up odds on 8 players in sitting currently in 11th or better UNTILL they see where they stand after lockout period at start of tv coverage and if doing well it won't be @ $2 How did Enron miss hiring this linesmaker.:nono:
Mid Point Update:
Match-ups
It's tremble time..... The hope of 3 make cuts against 3 missed cuts is just a distant memory.
Sabbatini leads Herron by 1
Maruyama leads Frazar by 1
Kendall trails Flesch by 1
Nailbiters!
Here's hoping my boys play to their best and something goes horribly wrong
with the opposition's game, preferably in the 3rd round so the 4th is more of a comfort zone.
OK it might sound mercenary... but I'm in this betting game for the money and stress is a killer!
Outrights
Milly Bayfair where are you now? Then someone obviously showed Olazabal Stan's post about the South course being like a US Open just before yesterday's back 9.
The next bet goes on a player who has put snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, on a new level. In a long career his only
stroke play victory being the 1993 Walt Disney. But he can offer 5 US Open Top 10's.
The leaderboard is bunched which favours a perennial loser, he could win without choking a lead.
He was the 1999 World matchplay champion and 8th last time out in Phoenix.
May the Lord have mercy on my soul - but it's 66/1 Jeff Maggert at Victor Chandler & Sporting Odds
Match-ups
It's tremble time..... The hope of 3 make cuts against 3 missed cuts is just a distant memory.
Sabbatini leads Herron by 1
Maruyama leads Frazar by 1
Kendall trails Flesch by 1
Nailbiters!
Here's hoping my boys play to their best and something goes horribly wrong
with the opposition's game, preferably in the 3rd round so the 4th is more of a comfort zone.
OK it might sound mercenary... but I'm in this betting game for the money and stress is a killer!
Outrights
Milly Bayfair where are you now? Then someone obviously showed Olazabal Stan's post about the South course being like a US Open just before yesterday's back 9.
The next bet goes on a player who has put snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, on a new level. In a long career his only
stroke play victory being the 1993 Walt Disney. But he can offer 5 US Open Top 10's.
The leaderboard is bunched which favours a perennial loser, he could win without choking a lead.
He was the 1999 World matchplay champion and 8th last time out in Phoenix.
May the Lord have mercy on my soul - but it's 66/1 Jeff Maggert at Victor Chandler & Sporting Odds
