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[WhatsHisNuts]

I simply don?t know a single doctor including several that I can sort with on a weekly basis, who agree with ignoring natural immunity. Even if the vaccine were more effective, which I won?t say that it is or it isn?t, to completely discount natural immunity makes absolutely no sense.

And, that is one of the litany of reasons so many are distrusting of leader ship regarding the vaccines.

Who is ignoring it or completely discounting it? The "leadership" is trying to get through this pandemic. There is a safe and effective method that will get us to population immunity, and it's free. The CDC says it is more effective than natural immunity so they are promoting it....and this is somehow a problem.

Why would you even have a personal opinion on which is more effective, unless you are a medical scientist that is literally testing for it?

 

[Cie]

Who is ignoring it or completely discounting it? The "leadership" is trying to get through this pandemic. There is a safe and effective method that will get us to population immunity, and it's free. The CDC says it is more effective than natural immunity so they are promoting it....and this is somehow a problem.

Why would you even have a personal opinion on which is more effective, unless you are a medical scientist that is literally testing for it?

That?s precisely what Im saying, I don?t have an opinion on which is more effective. I only rely on opinions of doctors. None of whom feel mandating the vaccine for those with natural immunity is the right play

Limiting the entry of unvaccinated citizens with natural immunity by mandate to local businesses makes no sense. You indicate that the goal is to lead us to population immunity. I agree that?s the goal, But vaccines for a bulk of the population plus Natural immunity for another large section of the population ?with some overlap?, should put us right where we need to be.

 

[Cie]

Who is ignoring it or completely discounting it? The "leadership" is trying to get through this pandemic. There is a safe and effective method that will get us to population immunity, and it's free. The CDC says it is more effective than natural immunity so they are promoting it....and this is somehow a problem.

Why would you even have a personal opinion on which is more effective, unless you are a medical scientist that is literally testing for it?

And I still do not understand why some vaccinated are worried about being around unvaxxed with natural immunity. The vaccine does not prevent spread. In fact, in The UK, the numbers indicate it doesn?t affect the spread at all. I?ll link the stats. So being vaccinated should be enough since the vaccines are so effective at keeping us from severe illness

https://twitter.com/tlowdon/status/1443988016767197184?s=21


I can?t state it enough, the vaccines are incredible. Mr. Trump was able with super funding to get this done. I did not believe he could do it. In fact, when Biden, Harris and almost every major democratic figure poo-pooed the vaccines as being rushed through by Mr. Trump, I agreed with them. I was totally wrong, those vaccines are wildly effective at saving lives and were somehow ready to go in 2020. Phenomenal stuff. I know they are effective by looking at the statistics which plainly tell the tale. Very obvious despite me not having any medical background whatsoever that lives are being saved by vaccines. Now, I want to see the same statistics on natural immunity. Let?s put it all out there so that we all know by looking at empirical data whether or not our immune system?s are able to do their job when it comes to fighting Covid.

Until then, I will continue to say that those with natural immunity who are unvaccinated are being discriminated against by municipal vaccine mandates in New Orleans, New York, San Francisco and soon to be Los Angeles

 

[kickserv]

kick i used to think you had a brain

The fact you actually believe the world's population is FORCED to take the vaccine is not only hilarious, but also scary.

So tell me how many gov't's on Earth are forcing their citizens to take the vaccine?





And when are you going to post the MILLIONS of obituaries of those that died from COVID?

 

[kickserv]

Red meat for the science deniers!

For the folks that trot out the COVID-19 death rate being under 1%: What's the death rate on vaccinations directly causing death?

Worldwide the death rate stands around 0.00000012 percent.





Vaccines have saved 100's of millions of lives in human history, but we better keep posting obituaries of those that died from vaccines, yep that makes sense:mj07:

 

[gjn23]

You have no choice, you are forced to get it.

You're right

If you want a job, to travel, to eat at a restaurant, attend indoor events and in some cases to keep visitation rights of your children.

But hey.....the govt isn't mandating anything; it's your choice!

 

[kickserv]

But hey.....the govt isn't mandating anything; it's your choice!

Well they sure are doing a shit job "forcing" you Americans to get the vaccine, ya know because the vax rate in the USA is a fucking joke.

They really need to step up this "forcing you to take the death vaccine" thing, I mean piss poor job I tell ya:142smilie





Amazing that all these other countries out there with high vax rates managed to do it without forcing its citizens to do so, amazing I tell ya, amazing:scared I wonder why that is:shrug:




Now....bring on those vax death obituaries:facepalm:

 

[kickserv]

If you want a job, to travel, to eat at a restaurant, attend indoor events and in some cases to keep visitation rights of your children.

Hedgehog does all of the above and he's not vaccinated (it's a hoax) and he's killing it at life......so that pretty much kills the points you just made:lol:

 

[gjn23]

Well they sure are doing a shit job "forcing" you Americans to get the vaccine, ya know because the vax rate in the USA is a fucking joke.

They really need to step up this "forcing you to take the death vaccine" thing, I mean piss poor job I tell ya:142smilie





Amazing that all these other countries out there with high vax rates managed to do it without forcing its citizens to do so, amazing I tell ya, amazing:scared I wonder why that is:shrug:




Now....bring on those vax death obituaries:facepalm:

And how are those countries doing?

Covid totally gone?
No more cases?
Life is great?

 

[kickserv]

And how are those countries doing?

Covid totally gone?

Yep......totally gone.

 

[JT]

When it comes to health it isn't about choice. If it was you could still go without seatbelts and smoke in public places. You can't so there is precedent. Besides, what kind of morbid person reads obituaries?

 

[Cie]

When it comes to health it isn't about choice. If it was you could still go without seatbelts and smoke in public places. You can't so there is precedent. Besides, what kind of morbid person reads obituaries?

I recently started wearing a seatbelt because my current vehicle makes annoying sound until I buckle up. In my last two cars, I just had to deal with that beeping for about 30 seconds before it stopped.


But, regardless, the numbers are out there. The vaccine does not slow the spread of the disease. The vaccine helps tremendously with hospitalization and death. As long as one is vaccinated, They are safe. So, not sure why all the virtue signaling and fear lingering continues.

Ask,!Masking is Having no affect on transmission rates in Florida schools. I?ll link the information below. Time to put away the masks and remove all mask mandates immediately.

Also, the city of New Orleans only accounts for about 40% of the population of greater New Orleans. 50% of greater New Orleans resides in adjacent Jefferson parish. New Orleans, as I?ve mentioned, has very severe vaccine mandates for entry into all businesses. Jefferson Parish does not have a vaccine mandates for entry into businesses. Currently, the state of Louisiana has the second least number of Covid cases per hundred thousand (20) behind California?s 19. The city of New Orleans has 10 cases per hundred thousand. The adjacent Jefferson Parish without any restrictions whatsoever has 12 cases per hundred thousand

I?m glad that my city is on the lower end of the spectrum, and not a hotspot. But, The vaccine mandate for entry into businesses is not making a significant difference in Covid transmission. For this reason, I called for an immediate end to all municipal vaccine mandates

 

[yyz]

I recently started wearing a seatbelt because my current vehicle makes annoying sound until I buckle up. In my last two cars, I just had to deal with that beeping for about 30 seconds before it stopped.


But, regardless, the numbers are out there. The vaccine does not slow the spread of the disease. The vaccine helps tremendously with hospitalization and death. As long as one is vaccinated, They are safe. So, not sure why all the virtue signaling and fear lingering continues.

Ask,!Masking is Having no affect on transmission rates in Florida schools. I?ll link the information below. Time to put away the masks and remove all mask mandates immediately.

Also, the city of New Orleans only accounts for about 40% of the population of greater New Orleans. 50% of greater New Orleans resides in adjacent Jefferson parish. New Orleans, as I?ve mentioned, has very severe vaccine mandates for entry into all businesses. Jefferson Parish does not have a vaccine mandates for entry into businesses. Currently, the state of Louisiana has the second least number of Covid cases per hundred thousand (20) behind California?s 19. The city of New Orleans has 10 cases per hundred thousand. The adjacent Jefferson Parish without any restrictions whatsoever has 12 cases per hundred thousand

I?m glad that my city is on the lower end of the spectrum, and not a hotspot. But, The vaccine mandate for entry into businesses is not making a significant difference in Covid transmission. For this reason, I called for an immediate end to all municipal vaccine mandates

I honestly don't fucking care anymore what the next guy does. The virus isn't what will ruin us, it's our overall disdain for anyone who thinks differently.

 

[Cie]

I honestly don't fucking care anymore what the next guy does. The virus isn't what will ruin us, it's our overall disdain for anyone who thinks differently.

Welcome aboard. Your decision to not worry about with the guy next to you is doing is both wise and fact-based.

 

[yyz]

Welcome aboard. Your decision to not worry about with the guy next to you is doing is both wise and fact-based.

I didn't say I'm not worried. I'm just tired. When will herd immunity kick in?

 

[LA Burns]

I didn't say I'm not worried. I'm just tired. When will herd immunity kick in?

Based on Louisiana's trajectory with a 45% vaccination rate, now

 

[LA Burns]

btw, no one in Louisiana outside of Orleans Parish wears a mask


high infection rate has led to high level of natural immunity, therefore case numbers in freefall and lagging indicators such as hospitalizations and deaths following same pattern

 

[LA Burns]

new COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in Louisiana have significantly declined since August - the peak number of hospitalizations was 3,022 recorded on Aug. 17


Yesterday there were 606 Covid patients in Louisiana hospitals

 

[SixFive]

What a stupid obituary :facepalm:

Cie doesn?t know any doctors who think natural immunity should be forgotten. Me neither. Who cares; So what? Only a moron would discount natural immunity or the hope for a herd immunity.

How about this? I?ll bet I know personally more physicians than anybody on this site, and I don?t know any who think adults should NOT get the vaccine. At least half were Trump supporters before anybody says they are all ?liberals?. I do know some who think children don?t need them at this time. I don?t either.

I blame all this vaccine hesitancy/conspiracy bs on Donald Trump. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut, not be a complete asshat constantly, not post anything but inspirational thoughts on Twitter, and capitalize on what was accomplished with Operation Warpspeed. Had he done these things, he would have been re-elected by a comfortable margin, he could have continued to build on vaccine utilization, and his constituents would all be vaccinated and happy under 4 more years of his leadership. Since he acted the way he did, we have what we have now. A worse outbreak of covid and a huge host of anti vaxers. Not to mention the biggest boob to ever be in the White House (besides Trump), Joe Biden :facepalm:

Thanks, Trump!

 

[LA Burns]

What a stupid obituary :facepalm:

Cie doesn?t know any doctors who think natural immunity should be forgotten. Me neither. Who cares; So what? Only a moron would discount natural immunity or the hope for a herd immunity.

How about this? I?ll bet I know personally more physicians than anybody on this site, and I don?t know any who think adults should NOT get the vaccine. At least half were Trump supporters before anybody says they are all ?liberals?. I do know some who think children don?t need them at this time. I don?t either.

I blame all this vaccine hesitancy/conspiracy bs on Donald Trump. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut, not be a complete asshat constantly, not post anything but inspirational thoughts on Twitter, and capitalize on what was accomplished with Operation Warpspeed. Had he done these things, he would have been re-elected by a comfortable margin, he could have continued to build on vaccine utilization, and his constituents would all be vaccinated and happy under 4 more years of his leadership. Since he acted the way he did, we have what we have now. A worse outbreak of covid and a huge host of anti vaxers. Not to mention the biggest boob to ever be in the White House (besides Trump), Joe Biden :facepalm:

Thanks, Trump!

my thoughts on covid and the vaccine have nothing to do with Trump - I am not a republican nor a democrat and I tackle things on an issue to issue basis without any thought to what political parties and their leaders think about those issues - to me that seems insane

congrats on knowing a lot of physicians - there are over a million in the US and they all have different opinions on Covid and everything else - there are clearly a lot of physicians who will tell you that a certain sector of the population don't need the vaccine - and without the help of a physician, those with a shred of common sense need not look further than the sports world, where excess testing led to the discovery of 10's of thousands of Covid infections, and rarely if ever was there a severe complication amongst those discoveries


the thought by some people that anyone who disagrees with their opinions has some sort of allegiance to Trump is ridiculous - some people have a brain and use it to come to their own conclusions - and sometimes it really isn't that hard, provided you're not blinded by emotion or allegiance to some political party that serves to make your decisions on important issues for you


luckily Covid as a serious issue is ending as we speak, and soon people who have differing opinions, stances and ideologies will be able to get together again and act like normal human beings amongst each other - life is way better when people are able to get along - of course you'll still have the political fringe walkers who will be mad about everything and you'll have the yyz types who will look for reasons to engage in confrontational behavior just for the sake of doing so, but the normal people will walk and coexist together again once this one issue is gone


so you're right 6-5 - Trump is an idiot and Biden clearly is too - the same goes for almost every dirty politician on Earth so we are in full agreement there


but some people form their opinions free of all of the political bullshit - I know because I am one of them, and I am supremely confident that I'm not the only one