Cincinati Gorilla

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I think zoos, especially SeaWorlds should be closed on an attrition basis. Harambe was born and raised in captivity, and there was never any intent to introduce him into the wild. That is extremely unfortunate to me.
I don't blame the parents at all. I might be a bit angry at them, but only to the same degree I would be mad at myself if an accident of this magnitude happened to me while watching my grandsons. I do believe it was an accident and 3 year old kids are fast.

It's a sad ending for the gorilla, but it was inevitable for him. He was dying at the hands of humans since the day he was born.

I fucking hate zoos almost as much as Sea World.


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No one is happy with animals in captivity, I personally think Sea-world should end its Orca shows all together.

I went to the London Zoo in 1982, I don't think at that point, their animal habitats had changed since their inception in 1828. It was a horribly decrepit facility, hope it has changed since my visit.
Unfortunately, most city revenue anywhere is squandered elsewhere before the city zoo gets any funding.


To the modern zoo and aquarium mutual credit, in 1981 the AZA was formed. In mans quest to destroy species by exploitation and habitat destruction, the AZA is many species only chance for future survival. The lowland gorilla in question was a valuable addition to the gene pool.

Their main goal is 'Species Survival".....only support AZA accredited zoos and aquariums.

Here is a link.... https://www.aza.org/

Species Survival Plan? Programs

The mission of an AZA Species Survival Plan? (SSP) Program is to cooperatively manage specific, and typically threatened or endangered, species population within AZA-accredited Zoos and Aquariums, Certified Related Facilities, and Sustainability Partners.

There are currently more than 450 SSP Programs, each managed by their corresponding Taxon Advisory Groups (TAGs), within AZA. Each is responsible for developing a comprehensive population Studbook and a Breeding and Transfer Plan which identifies population management goals and recommendations to ensure the sustainability of a healthy, genetically diverse, and demographically varied AZA population.
 
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The parents should be arrested for child endangerment and the parents should be held responsible, how do you let your kid climb the fence to get in there? Sad news they had to kill him. Such a powerful beast. In the end the right decision was made to kill him, the zoo had no other choice.

Totally agree with you about the parents........Just curious to why they dont have tranquilizers
 

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Totally agree with you about the parents........Just curious to why they dont have tranquilizers

So the parents should be in jail and the child put in the foster system because he snuck off from his parents ONCE? With no pattern established, I can't support arrests and imprisonment because of this event. That child's life is chaotic enough right now. Living with strangers and having their parents in jail doesn't seem like it is going to "rescue" his life.

Shit happens and incarceration isn't always the best solution.
 

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So the parents should be in jail and the child put in the foster system because he snuck off from his parents ONCE? With no pattern established, I can't support arrests and imprisonment because of this event. That child's life is chaotic enough right now. Living with strangers and having their parents in jail doesn't seem like it is going to "rescue" his life.

Shit happens and incarceration isn't always the best solution.

There should be consequences for the parents, that's all we are saying. They allowed their child to climb over the fence. Set a precedence so it never happens again.
 

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Just curious to why they dont have tranquilizers

I can think of 2 reasons not to tranquilize. It would take too long to work on a 450lb animal and second being shot with a dart (or several) would probably incite him to where he may have harmed the child. They made the right choice.
 

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There should be consequences for the parents, that's all we are saying. They allowed their child to climb over the fence. Set a precedence so it never happens again.


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Oh, sure little Johnny, go ahead and get in the gorillas cage. It's OK.
 

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So the parents should be in jail and the child put in the foster system because he snuck off from his parents ONCE? With no pattern established, I can't support arrests and imprisonment because of this event. That child's life is chaotic enough right now. Living with strangers and having their parents in jail doesn't seem like it is going to "rescue" his life.

Shit happens and incarceration isn't always the best solution.

I will tell you this, when we go out to places my kids do not run wild, they are representing me...If they act a fool how does that look on me????....I do have an adopted son as well....They have boundaries and rules and if they disrespect then they know there are consequences. If in the case they do something wrong it is my fault, they are minors...I take full responsibility of my children...
 

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So the parents should be in jail and the child put in the foster system because he snuck off from his parents ONCE? With no pattern established, I can't support arrests and imprisonment because of this event. That child's life is chaotic enough right now. Living with strangers and having their parents in jail doesn't seem like it is going to "rescue" his life.

Shit happens and incarceration isn't always the best solution.

I will tell you this, when we go out to places my kids do not run wild, they are representing me...If they act a fool how does that look on me????....I do have an adopted son as well....They have boundaries and rules and if they disrespect then they know there are consequences. If in the case they do something wrong it is my fault, they are minors...I take full responsibility of my children...



Like ya both....Respect might be a better word....Your both right yet both wrong....Life eh?....Though I do agree with the former....Yes...I just chose....What was always in my heart....:toast:
 

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I don't know man. There were a couple eyewitness statements saying the parents weren't at fault.

I wasn't there so I can't really say whether the parents were negligent or not. The couple is in their thirties and have more than one child. I think having your 3 year old being in the hands of a gorilla and the guilt of watching said gorilla shot in front of your family may just be enough for me to think a lesson has been learned. They're getting throttled on social media as well.

It sucks all the way around.


That's just my opinion.



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Are you serious??

That's what wrong in this country, nobody disciplines their kids anymore. They neglected to watch their child, hence what happened. They are no going to get charges filed against them but they should.
 

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That's what wrong in this country, nobody disciplines their kids anymore. They neglected to watch their child, hence what happened. They are no going to get charges filed against them but they should.


Reckless endangerment comes to mind...


Definition of child neglect...

"Child neglect is a form of child abuse, and is a deficit in meeting a child's basic needs, including the failure to provide adequate health care, supervision, nutrition, housing as well as their physical, emotional, social, educational and safety needs."
 

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It's definitely poor supervision and negligence. How many times in the history of the United States has a toddler wound up in the arms of a 450 gorilla?

Jesus Christ! :lol:
 

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It's definitely poor supervision and negligence. How many times in the history of the United States has a toddler wound up in the arms of a 450 gorilla?

Jesus Christ! :lol:

Well, I wasn't a toddler, actually I was 18, but it was late, the beer was cold, and she looked GOOD at 2 a.m.:mj07:
 
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