Dungy death=my view..

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Tons of views written about the young son of Indy coaach Tony d.....I am going to throw something out there I have never told......I met a lot of angry black guys in the service...tons...God knows why they joined-some I think joined just to have a legit reason to bitch about the U.s.a.-really......anyway...I was a officer- a Pilot-(copter) lots of cool guys respected me because i chose to care about them , life, shit etc......when these guys who hated everything got there first taste of a firefight or "action"the were the one that totally changed the most....really i saw so many guys who were bitter, gangster,ugly guys become either heroes or or total cowards....there was no in between............I tell this because I feel that the youth of today (25 and under) grew up with no hardships===none...think about it,,,this age group grew up with computers,stable economy,good health care etc......I am scared of the young youth of today...look at the swtories of the 18 year old that served in WWII and look at what the 18 year olds are doing today ......what a joke....my opinion....just putting it out there...take care....
 

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Yeah those kids over in Iraq have it on easy street?
whats your point?...I was merely saying that 18 year olds today have a major chip on their shoulder in my experience........
 

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i think the diff agent is there is no draft so the kids today dont have to serve unless they want to.
 

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looks like you can leave for a month or so and nothing changes is it me or does this guy turn everything into a story about him :violin:
 

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There are many who serve because they feel they have no other options to get money for school or health care for their families, there are some in the national guard that never thought they would see action but they do. Todays generation is just as courageous as any, ask the boys and girls @ Walter Reed about hardship. They joined just like you did, for their own reasons. There is a social and economic draft. Look outside your world before you judge others.
 
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bryanz...it`s called getting a job....there are plenty of jobs out there if you have one iota of motivation....

if you enlist in the military....you understand(unless you are a total moron),that there`s a chance that you may have to actually serve your country....

strange concept,isn`t it....

it`s not yet another social give away program....as some seem to think....
 

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bryanz said:
How old are you and when did you ever have your boots on the ground.

old enough and I served......don't really want to get in a argument and some people made some good points here but this generation is no where near as self- reliant, capable and respectful as ones in the past...IMO.....and I am fully aware of the sacrifices some youths are making now and why they do it....I was looking broad scope and I was originally pointing to the fact that it has been written that the Dungy kid had some issues and Iwas making a comparison to kids that I have met of the same ideas.......when they finally get slapped in the face with reality they change---the older generations didn't need that slap IMO--maybe i am wrong its just my experience....
 

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Weasel, I agree with you 100 % but we can't overlook for some,the Military is the best option they have. There are National Guard Units that have never and I mean never been called up until this war. Look it up. If you don't think we are in the mist of a social and economic draft your not paying attention. I'm all for self reliance and preach it every day. Work for myself and hire others, never taken a penny from any social program and collected unemployment once for a month in my 44 yrs.
 

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Worm, you put it out there,so I'm calling you on it. My experience says you have never seen any action. Maybe I'm wrong but it's just my experience . You don't have a clue.
 
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bryanz said:
Worm, you put it out there,so I'm calling you on it. My experience says you have never seen any action. Maybe I'm wrong but it's just my experience . You don't have a clue.

Dont even go there buddy.....
 

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bryanz if you dont think the kids today are diff than the ones from the ww2 era you are lost. that was his point and if you dont think kids have it easier these days you are even more lost. i am talking about respect for other people. kids these days just dont care they know if anyone does anything to them they will be felt sorry for and poo poo--d no fear in what they do.
 

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The suicide rate among the Iraq-Afghanistan participants is unprecedented. Just a fact, if it means anything.
 
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