.2 Ginas on Thomas Denny at +450.....
Diaz highly over-valued in this case.... :SIB In most cases, actually... IMO.
Diaz highly over-valued in this case.... :SIB In most cases, actually... IMO.
EliteXC - Lawler vs. Smith II - July 26th, Stockton, CA
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Kick you ever notice every guy that is on inside MMA loses? McCully was the latest. Only one i ever see win was Kimbo Denny talking up his fight. Mayham losing, Silvia losing, Coultures wife losing. Rampage losing.:shrug: I see a pattern here.
Awww.....good to see at least one madjacker on an underdog. As I said earlier odds way ouuta wack on Diaz, inflated because he's fighting at home.
And Sponge.....they don't all lose when they are on that show, but you are correct....most do :142smilie
And man will the forum be pissed if the Canadian beats the blowjob.....well except for me of course, everybody is on the easy blowjob, I like the massive underdog. In other words you guys are taking the easy blowjob....I'm going for the gangbang :mj07:
And Sponge.....they don't all lose when they are on that show, but you are correct....most do :142smilie
And man will the forum be pissed if the Canadian beats the blowjob.....well except for me of course, everybody is on the easy blowjob, I like the massive underdog. In other words you guys are taking the easy blowjob....I'm going for the gangbang :mj07:
Gallbladder has got crushed multiple times by people that aren't primarily strikers + Blowjob has very good TD defense = ugly mugging in the first round.
if denny defeats diaz,he should retire....period....
denny is a trial horse who has never been able to get on the big cards...he was in the wec once and lost..lost in shooto....never in the ufc or pride..it`s all the borscht circuit stuff....alot of kotc.....
i was trying to find somebody i knew that was decent that he`s beaten,and the closest i could come was tony frycking frycklund,,,
he`s lost to:
fredson paixao
alex karalexis
little joe stevenson
gsp(he must`ve been slumming)
chris brennan
bang ludwig
john alessio
jutaro nakao
yves edwards
and the only guy he made it the distance with was the lamest of the crew,karalexis....
other than fryklund,i have no idea who these guys he`s beaten on these small cards are(maybe that shows my lack of knowledge about the fighters)....:shrug:
other than a freak cut or a d.q.,i don`t see how he wins this?...
help me out here...
the talent gap here is large...
denny is a trial horse who has never been able to get on the big cards...he was in the wec once and lost..lost in shooto....never in the ufc or pride..it`s all the borscht circuit stuff....alot of kotc.....
i was trying to find somebody i knew that was decent that he`s beaten,and the closest i could come was tony frycking frycklund,,,
he`s lost to:
fredson paixao
alex karalexis
little joe stevenson
gsp(he must`ve been slumming)
chris brennan
bang ludwig
john alessio
jutaro nakao
yves edwards
and the only guy he made it the distance with was the lamest of the crew,karalexis....
other than fryklund,i have no idea who these guys he`s beaten on these small cards are(maybe that shows my lack of knowledge about the fighters)....:shrug:
other than a freak cut or a d.q.,i don`t see how he wins this?...
help me out here...
the talent gap here is large...
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GW... If im picking winners i roll w/ Diaz.... I just think those odds r really chitty for a guy who is as unpredictable as Diaz is.... he had a close decision over a not-so-talented Mike Aina.. He was getting the chit kicked out of him against Noons b4 the fight was stopped b/c his face looked like a ribeye. He was unimpressive against Corrbrey. He doesnt play to his strengths (his jiu jitsu) and, although accurate, he really doesnt possess much power. I dont like the saying "lucky punch", but Diaz landed a lucky punch on Lawler if i've ever seen one... He's mentally slow (to put it nicely) and that shows in his fights sometimes......
With that said, I dont like anything more than a small investment in Denny... I just dont sense any value in Diaz at those odds.
With that said, I dont like anything more than a small investment in Denny... I just dont sense any value in Diaz at those odds.
fair enough...you make a very valid point by mentioning the aina fight...diaz looked very bad in that bout....
i just think that denny`s out of his depth....
but...i would never try to talk a guy out of taking big chalk....
was just looking for some rationale that maybe i had missed...
thanks for responding...
i just think that denny`s out of his depth....
but...i would never try to talk a guy out of taking big chalk....
was just looking for some rationale that maybe i had missed...
thanks for responding...
Fight Card has changed......
* Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith
* Jake Shields vs. Nick Thompson
* Thomas Denny vs. Nick Diaz
* Shayna Baszler vs. Cristiane Cyborg
* David Douglas and Marlon Mathias
* Justin Eilers vs. Antonio Silva
* Brian Caraway vs. Wilson Reis
* Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante vs. Travis Galbraith
* Jeremy Freitag vs. Anthony Ruiz
* Mike Cook vs. Carl Seumanutafa
* Drew Montgomery vs. Brandon Tarn
* Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith
* Jake Shields vs. Nick Thompson
* Thomas Denny vs. Nick Diaz
* Shayna Baszler vs. Cristiane Cyborg
* David Douglas and Marlon Mathias
* Justin Eilers vs. Antonio Silva
* Brian Caraway vs. Wilson Reis
* Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante vs. Travis Galbraith
* Jeremy Freitag vs. Anthony Ruiz
* Mike Cook vs. Carl Seumanutafa
* Drew Montgomery vs. Brandon Tarn
What you are missing is that he was on Inside MMA talking about how when he is a huge dog he is the most dangerous and KIck bought it hook line and sinker.:nono: If this fight was a pickum Kick wouldn't even go near Denny. One thing in KIcks corner is this loose cannon Diaz can get disqualified at any moment.
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Raw i completely agree with every thing you say here. If there ever was a fighter who doesn't use his strengh's its this one.
Diaz is head and shoulders above Denny.
The worst thing that ever happened to Diaz was knocking out Robbie Lawler with those pancy arse punches. If he just dragged all opponents to the ground, he would have a chance to beat anybody.
Instead, he thinks he is "hands of stone". The problem with this is, he starts to bleed during the refs instructions.
1 play tonight.
Reis -150 over Carraway.
Not sure why the line is so low :mj03: :mj03: Reis has sick and worldclass BJJ. All of Carraways wins are from Sub's and thats not the kinda game you want to rely on against Wilson :00x15
Reis -150 over Carraway.
Not sure why the line is so low :mj03: :mj03: Reis has sick and worldclass BJJ. All of Carraways wins are from Sub's and thats not the kinda game you want to rely on against Wilson :00x15
MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 20-11
Fighter vs. Fighter 80-98
Parlays 45-50
+89.81 Joe Rogans
Scott Smith beat Robbie Lawler $2.80 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Scott Smith beat Robbie Lawler $3.10 *1 Joe Rogans
Thomas Denny beat Nick Diaz $5.50 *1 Joe Rogan
Thomas Denny beat Nick Diaz $5.75 *half Joe Rogan
Travais Galbraith beat Rafael Feijao $5.00 *half Joe Rogan
Justin Eilers beat Antonio Silva $5.50 *1 Joe Rogan
Brian Caraway beat Wilson Reis $2.40 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Cristiane Cyborg beat Shayna Baszler $2.90 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Jake Shields beat Nick Thompson $1.33 *5 Joe Rogans
Three words.......ruff ruff ruff:mj23: :mj23:
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Prop Bet 20-11
Fighter vs. Fighter 80-98
Parlays 45-50
+89.81 Joe Rogans
Scott Smith beat Robbie Lawler $2.80 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Scott Smith beat Robbie Lawler $3.10 *1 Joe Rogans
Thomas Denny beat Nick Diaz $5.50 *1 Joe Rogan
Thomas Denny beat Nick Diaz $5.75 *half Joe Rogan
Travais Galbraith beat Rafael Feijao $5.00 *half Joe Rogan
Justin Eilers beat Antonio Silva $5.50 *1 Joe Rogan
Brian Caraway beat Wilson Reis $2.40 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Cristiane Cyborg beat Shayna Baszler $2.90 *1.5 Joe Rogans
Jake Shields beat Nick Thompson $1.33 *5 Joe Rogans
Three words.......ruff ruff ruff:mj23: :mj23:
kick...why didn`t you just take all the dogs?.....:shocked:
i hate to be the turd in the punchbowl,but,i don`t think this is the card to "all in" on the puppies....
and the one fave you took,is the one that scares me most....
but that`s me:shrug: ...
GW...not going to argue with you....you could very well be spot on. And obviously I am hoping for only a couple of dogs to win (except Thompson of course). Besides, this is Elite XC on CBS, and after that circus we saw last time out, anything can happen:scared
Some of my big dogs will most likely get destroyed, but I think some have a real shot:SIB
Ya gotta admit there are some nice doggie prices on this card.
ruff ruff ruff.
Some of my big dogs will most likely get destroyed, but I think some have a real shot:SIB
Ya gotta admit there are some nice doggie prices on this card.
ruff ruff ruff.
