In Ohio, less than half the residents have started the vaccine. If you haven't been vaccinated, you are supposed to wear a mask inside public places. If 5% of the people are wearing masks, I'd be shocked.
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In Ohio, less than half the residents have started the vaccine. If you haven't been vaccinated, you are supposed to wear a mask inside public places. If 5% of the people are wearing masks, I'd be shocked.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-dc-murders-surpass-coronavirus-deaths-july
two tales to every Topic?.would look at stats vs media?.
another example..Chicago has strictest gun laws in nation?yet highest homicide rates per guns in natiion???
whatever happened to common sense?it,s not the guns it,s the element (people) committing the crimes.i
two tales to every Topic?.would look at stats vs media?.
another example..Chicago has strictest gun laws in nation?yet highest homicide rates per guns in natiion???
whatever happened to common sense?it,s not the guns it,s the element (people) committing the crimes.i
Murders have outpaced Covid deaths in New Orleans four months. Mayor doesn?t even broach that topic, but she?s all over the Covid deal. And that?s with the city of New Orleans well above national averages in terms of vaccinations.
I don?t think there is any debate on who is dying from covid now? it?s the anti vaxxers. This doesn?t come from the media or the government this is hospital statistics. People keep
Saying the vaccine is government control., trust me just about every health care provider is pushing the vaccine as well? Why? Because they see what most people don?t.
When a more violent virus comes out the world or this country is going to be fucked!
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Saying the vaccine is government control., trust me just about every health care provider is pushing the vaccine as well? Why? Because they see what most people don?t.
When a more violent virus comes out the world or this country is going to be fucked!
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So, you think the homicide rates drop if they make guns more easily accessible in Chicago? That's the common sense?
The problems with homicide rates is there is really no way to stop a lot of it, unless the government violates everyone's rights to the max, let the national guard come in and do a sweep but people would be up in arms.
To me covid has a lot to do with personal responsibility. If i get it it's most likely because I have lived my life as normal since receiving the second vaccine and getting the go ahead from work to move on.
To me covid has a lot to do with personal responsibility. If i get it it's most likely because I have lived my life as normal since receiving the second vaccine and getting the go ahead from work to move on.
I agree that vaccines are wildly effective. Shockingly effective to this point
But, one reason that about 25% of our population is not trusting of the government is based on the agenda driven manner in which the statistics are presented by the national media.
When reporting cases and deaths, our stats are always presented in the form of total deaths and total cases. Given that we are among the most populous nations in the world with a litany of major international hub cities, it would Only stand to reason that we are very high on the total case and total death count. By rate, we fare much better bc we have top level healthcare.
Now, let?s look at the manner in which our media reports vaccination statistics. Should be by total count since that?s how they report deaths and cases, right? . Of course not, suddenly total vaccinations, which would put us top one or two in the world, are not discussed. Only vaccination rates are widely reported. Wonder why this is??? Skeptics see this and it further entrenches them in their belief that government/media is lying to them.
I?m not a conspiracy guy, but I understand where some of these tin foil types are
Coming from. Transparency and good faith reporting would go a long way in reeling in some of these moderate conspiracy types.
Forcing or shaming someone to vaccinate against their will or religious beliefs is highly invasive of ?everyone?s rights? IMO. Again, devils advocate here. I?m vaccinated and my teens are
Now one shot in. But, to Act as if telling people they have to take a specific medicine isn?t an invasion of personal rights is a little off base
And they always blame the Democrats for having the agenda. In reality who has really had the agenda? Right from the start Trump mentions the word "Hoax" and his followers run with it. How many times did he say it was just going to go away? Why didn't he just come out and tell people that they should be cautious, social distance, wash hands etc. Instead he belittles Fauci the entire way. Fauci and the CDC really saved Trump's ass to be honest. They were the leading voices that got the big venues to shut down, had they been silenced Covid would have crippled health care systems across the country. You still have guys like Rand Paul talking stupidly and while back he insinuated that NYC had reached Herd Immunity. Still not convinced that the right had and agenda. Trump told the governors its up to them to have their own covid plan and when people protested in the democratic states he used it as a political tool and told the people to "liberate" That was our president? He didn't give them a vote a confidence in fear he would lose some votes? What the hell was he worried about?
Still not convinced? How about when these low budget nuts post their youtube videos and have the backing of republicans including the Trump Family. Remember the video "Plandemic" that focused on nut job Judy Mikovitz who slammed Fauci and was talking about a money grab for him? really Fauci waited til 80 years old to cash in on a virus. Or how about the Chiropractor who came on and told everyone to drink Quinine, cause hes a "real medical doctor." You would have to drink 10 gallons of quinine water a day for it to beneficial, yet the repubs were backing the video or how about the two doctors from Bakersfield including the guy who wasn't even practicing? These guys were laughed at by real experts and then how about my personal favorite? the doctors who were dressed in white lab coats in front of a canned audience who said they "have no political agenda" tell everyone that Hydrochloroquine was the cure, Trump Jr. said it was a must watch, the one doctor is and expert in Alien DNA and demon sperm. I mean I still have friends who think Hydrocholoroquine is the cure. So yeah the right is bonkers as well.
Removing guns from the home of people with a clean record who keep a handgun for personal protection and some hunting equipment is absurd and won?t reduce a damn thing. Now, removing gun rights permanently from violent crime perpetrator and raising the penalties to 10 year mandatory minimum for illegally carrying a firearm, commiting a crime with a firearm, and similar would work nicely IMO. That way, law abiding types will live on with their rights to bear arms while scumbags will rot in prison.
I agree with you about 90%, I worry that if we have a worse virus going forward that they will have to force people to take it but I guess if people are dropping like flies people will be more apt to take it.
They make people do other vaccines.
Vikings are pissed that they have a lot of players not vaccinated, their QBs are out 10 days cause the whole QB room was contaminated. Vikes head coach has come out and just whacked the players (not by name) for not getting vaccinated.
Another reason people aren't vaccinated is you have people on social media such as Candace Owens slamming the it
this but the only way to do so would be to quickly sweep residence to residence and that would never fly. Murders are just going to continue because people are violent and have access to guns. They will have the access regardless of laws. Do you watch the first 48 on A&E? I mean people do not value life and in some of these places the parenting has really failed. I watched a guy bump into someone at an I HOP, they argued a bit and then the one guy left, (they had not known each other) the other guy's response was to follow him and shoot him. as long as we have people with this mentality we will never curb the murders.
Well, think about it. When have you heard of USA case and deaths reported by rate? I assume, like most of us, the answer is never. In total deaths and total cases we are world leaders, but by rate we
Are 15th in the world. Media reports total deaths not deaths per capita to further the agenda to paint us in the most negative light possible
Now, look at vaccinations. Have you seen vaccination reporting By tally, or by per capita rate? Like most of us, all you see is the reported is the vaccination rate. Looking at the numbers, we are second in the world in number of fully vaccinated citizens. But, by rate we are 27th. Coincidentally, our national media, which for the past 18 months has reported our death count By tally, is ONLY reporting our vaccine count per capita rate. Again, using whichever numbers paint is in the most negative light.
I see this, and I am not surprised. Conspiracy guy see this, and it further validate their stance that our media and our government or not to be trusted
BP, Even though you and I are not always on the same page politically as I may recall, I appreciate that you are reasonable levelheaded and common sense about these things. Just saying
If they stop reporting the remarkably high death count (over 600k) in favor of a mortality rate, whose agenda is getting peddled? The death rate, overall, is skewed by those under 30. As you start running it up the brackets, the mortality rate escalates dramatically. So, what numbers does it make sense to report? If you go by the overall death rate, you end up with people like Homedog saying it's no big deal and shove your vaccine up your ass......which is the LAST thing we need.
Report - 2 hours ago......McDonald's makes masks mandatory for all customers, staff.
McDonald's Corp (MCD.N) on Monday confirmed that all its customers and staff will need to start wearing masks again inside its U.S. restaurants in areas with high or substantial transmission, regardless of whether they are vaccinated or not.
Read more here.....https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mcdonalds-makes-masks-mandatory-all-customers-staff-2021-08-02/?taid=61088129558c3300016a83d0&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&utm_source=reddit.com
McDonald's Corp (MCD.N) on Monday confirmed that all its customers and staff will need to start wearing masks again inside its U.S. restaurants in areas with high or substantial transmission, regardless of whether they are vaccinated or not.
Read more here.....https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mcdonalds-makes-masks-mandatory-all-customers-staff-2021-08-02/?taid=61088129558c3300016a83d0&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&utm_source=reddit.com
