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[Smitty]

It’s in the best interest of global peace to negotiate our way out of this. Personally, I would’ve negotiated when Putin threatened to invade, but didn’t happen that way imo bc war seems to be big business for establishment Democrats and neo conservative Republicans in DC. I was never a fan of Ukraine. It was a governmental cesspool of corruption. Obviously I don’t want anyone dying under any circumstance, much less well meaning soldiers or civilians. This is why I would’ve negotiated from the beginning.

what exactly was there to negotiate prior to the invasion? putin had already annexed crimea (in 2014, if i recall correctly). should ukraine have just given putin even MORE territory in exchange for a pinky swear that they wouldn't invade? maybe given putin full control over ukraine?

again, perhaps you're not familiar with world history. but appeasing authoritarians has never worked out well. just look up neville chamberlain, for starters.

 

[oldmansrt]

Why are you so interested in American politics?

He isnt he is the pivot man in the circle jerk

 

[kickserv]

He isnt he is the pivot man in the circle jerk

Good one.

 

[Revolutionary Intentions]

They are promoting a mass deportation. Why are you blaming me for repeating it?

Can you link to the posts from 6 or 7 years ago where we all cried about the tariffs? TIA.

50.2% voted for Trump. Very decisive. When this presidency fails, you'll go back into hiding. You're already defending his asinine cabinet picks, so spare us you're horse shit.

Mass deportations are part of what 50.2% of the country voted for. Illegal aliens should not be here. We won’t able to remove 15 million illegals, 10 mill of which were allowed in by Biden, but they’ll put a significant dent in them. And I’m looking forward to it. Why do you want illegal aliens to remain in this country illegally? Makes no sense.

You have cried about tariffs when he first proposed them, and I’m not searching your past posts

A majority of the country voted for his agenda. Let’s see how it plays out.

It’s his cabinet, so he’ll make the selections how he sees fit. There’s a process in place. senators will look at all of the facts, interview them, and determine if they are worthy of confirmation. It’s the American way. Just let it play out.

There’s no horseshit here, I’ll be the very first one to call a spade once I know I’m wrong. I’ll give you an example. I, like many, was caught up in the patriotism post 911 wave of support for W and weapons of mass destruction. When and enough time passed, and I realize what was going on, I now have George W. Bush as the second worst president in my adult life’s myself and a majority of the public voted for the agenda that Trump and the Republican Congress are going to put in place. Just try to be open minded about it and not cry every day. Like the tariffs that you want were so opposed to, but now are completely accepting of, you might find that some of this is actually good policy like those tariffs that Joe kept in place

 

[Smitty]

Mass deportations are part of what 50.2% of the country voted for. Illegal aliens should not be here. We won’t able to remove 15 million illegals, 10 mill of which were allowed in by Biden, but they’ll put a significant dent in them. And I’m looking forward to it. Why do you want illegal aliens to remain in this country illegally? Makes no sense.

do you agree that our agricultural industry is important? because...

"36% of farmworkers surveyed by the NAWS were United States citizens, 19% were lawful permanent residents and another 1% had other work authorization through another status (excluding H-2A visas). The NAWS found that approximately 44% of farmworkers are undocumented immigrants who lack work authorization."

how about construction? kinda important, right? well...

"According to a report from the Center for American Progress, approximately 23% of construction laborers in the United States are undocumented immigrants, meaning they are considered illegal immigrants in the construction industry."

maybe meatpacking? you enjoy meat, don't you?

"According to various sources, estimates place the percentage of undocumented workers in the US meatpacking industry between 30% and 50% of the workforce, with many citing a significant reliance on immigrant labor, particularly from Latin America, making it a large portion of the industry's workforce."

what do you think happens to those industries if we deport all the illegal immigrants? c'mon, genius, use your fucking head for once. WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE INDUSTRIES????

does it start to actually make sense now? maybe instead of rushing to deport them, how 'bout we try to fix the immigration process? what a crazy concept, huh? feel free to tell me exactly why that's stupid. i'll wait.

you don't have to like it. i don't have to like it. but we're in a position where we NEED them.

can't wait to see what mass deportations will do to grocery prices. but don't worry, maga will find a way to blame the dems.

It’s his cabinet, so he’ll make the selections how he sees fit. There’s a process in place. senators will look at all of the facts, interview them, and determine if they are worthy of confirmation. It’s the American way. Just let it play out.

so i guess you're just ignoring the reports that trump is already trying to work around the constitution by being allowed to make recess appointments. remember, trump has never thought the rules apply to him. but you're probably ok with this, because (whether you want to admit it or not) you are a trump guy. the 3 republican senators who were running for senate majority leader all pretty much had to pledge they were ok with this. rick scott blatantly said it was fine with him. the other two were very wishy-washy about it. at least they were pretending to still have SOME respect for the constitution.

 

[hedgehog]

Ok? I’m not the sharpest crayon in the box, but how do you lower taxes on the wealthy, spend billions trying to remove all illegal immigrants, (this will double at least the cost of fruits and vegetables, cut 2 trillion (that’s trillion with a T budget cut), put in a Russian sympathizer in charge of our nations security, perhaps the second guiltiest person in the USA is now the attorney general, an antivaxer in charge of health and human welfare, a fox news host be in charge of the pentagon ( it’s funny really, I could see fox hiring a McDonald’s fry cook to be an anchor man but not the president hiring a Fox News host to be in charge of the military)
When trump was president before he added 7.7 trillion dollars to the deficit. That looks like it will be a drop in the bucket this time.
Will someone please explain this to me.
Thanks

 

[kickserv]

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As usual Hedgehog steps up and answers a question. And as per usual, he backs up his post with evidence and facts that can not be disputed. pd1 mind is now at ease all thanks to Hedgehog.

 

[Smitty]

does it start to actually make sense now? maybe instead of rushing to deport them, how 'bout we try to fix the immigration process? what a crazy concept, huh? feel free to tell me exactly why that's stupid. i'll wait.

still waiting, cie.

 

[hedgehog]

As usual Hedgehog steps up and answers a question. And as per usual, he backs up his post with evidence and facts that can not be disputed. pd1 mind is now at ease all thanks to Hedgehog

You people harassed me for the last 4 years when I bitched about how incompetent Biden was, its time for a little payback. I can't wait for mean tweets to come back.

 

[kickserv]

You people harassed me for the last 4 years when I bitched about how incompetent Biden was

Your stupidity as nothing to do with who the President of the United States is, in fact it has nothing to do with anybody else, just you.

And when someone says Covid doesn't exist, little kids never died at Sandy Hook and Obama killed people in a Colorado Movie Cinema, you will get some blow back. So yeah, it has nothing to do with Joe Biden, just you.

 

[kickserv]

still waiting, cie.

Keep on waiting.

If he does respond, he'll respond with his beliefs, and what he believes automatically counts as fact.

 

[kickserv]

put in a Russian sympathizer in charge of our nations security

What are you talking about? Putin is scared shitless of Trump. Putin didn't attack Ukraine when Trump was in the White House, this proves Putin is scared of Trump.

Trump is all about America, and all about the people of America, he'd never bow down to Putin, Trump is strong and Putin cowers and just the mention of Trump.

Come on get with it dude.