If Gene Hackman killed his dog......

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He loved dogs more than you do.

Nope not even close.....if I was that old and had the amount of money Hackman had, the instant I found out I had Alzheimer's disease I would make damn sure if I had three dogs somebody would check on me every three days. Alzheimer's disease is a slow disease, at first you have all your faculties and then it slowly takes everything away. He knew he had the disease (and he knew how old he was) way before he died.

Yes he had his wife with him, and yes it wasn't like he wanted any of this to happen. But when you are in the state Hackman was in and you have three dogs you should have somebody (a nurse or whatever) check on you at least twice a week. Just a phone call or something, that dog did not have to die.

So yeah.....he didn't love dogs as much as I do, because I would never put myself in the position Mr. Hackman did. If you are by yourself and that is how you chose to live your life, fine, but don't put three innocent dogs at risk. Hell he could have just had somebody "check on the dogs once a week", leave him and his wife alone if need be. There was no reason for any of those three dogs to be in the position they were in, none.
 

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Nope not even close.....if I was that old and had the amount of money Hackman had, the instant I found out I had Alzheimer's disease I would make damn sure if I had three dogs somebody would check on me every three days. Alzheimer's disease is a slow disease, at first you have all your faculties and then it slowly takes everything away. He knew he had the disease (and he knew how old he was) way before he died.

Yes he had his wife with him, and yes it wasn't like he wanted any of this to happen. But when you are in the state Hackman was in and you have three dogs you should have somebody (a nurse or whatever) check on you at least twice a week. Just a phone call or something, that dog did not have to die.

So yeah.....he didn't love dogs as much as I do, because I would never put myself in the position Mr. Hackman did.
He had his 63 YO wife taking care of him.

You can shoulda woulda coulda all you want.

Damn shame it went down like this.
 

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He had his 63 YO wife taking care of him.

You can shoulda woulda coulda all you want.

If I was 95 years old and in the shape Hackman was in I would always make sure my dogs were looked after, having the amount of money Hackman had and not at the very least having somebody "check on the dogs" weekly is selfish. Not saying either of them wanted any of this to happen, but I would never have three dogs and be in the shape he was in and not have a back up plan.

If you want to be all private and leave everything to chance, fine, you want to rely on one 63 year old person to take care of you, fine, but don't own
three dogs and be an invalid and not have somebody check on the dogs, that ain't right.

It isn't a "shoulda woulda coulda" situation, both of them were selfish. It would have took all of a couple minutes to set up ANYONE to come over (or even phone call) and make sure dogs were ok.
 

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I am definitely a dog person.
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If I was 95 years old and in the shape Hackman was in I would always make sure my dogs were looked after, having the amount of money Hackman had and not at the very least having somebody "check on the dogs" weekly is selfish. Not saying either of them wanted any of this to happen, but I would never have three dogs and be in the shape he was in and not have a back up plan.

If you want to be all private and leave everything to chance, fine, you want to rely on one 63 year old person to take care of you, fine, but don't own
three dogs and be an invalid and not have somebody check on the dogs, that ain't right.

It isn't a "shoulda woulda coulda" situation, both of them were selfish. It would have took all of a couple minutes to set up ANYONE to come over (or even phone call) and make sure dogs were ok.
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Hey kick - The vet dropped the ball - At least in my eyes. What's your take now?


Security cameras captured Arakawa’s image during her visit to the pharmacy on Feb. 11, the last day she is believed to have been alive. The longtime wife and main caregiver of actor Gene Hackman, Arakawa had busied herself with errands that day: sending an email, stopping at the pharmacy, doing some grocery shopping.

Most notable was what she didn’t do. She failed to swing by Gruda Veterinary Hospital in southwest Santa Fe to pick up the prescription dog food and medication she had ordered for one of her three dogs, Zinna, Bear and Nikita.

Arakawa had been taking her dogs to that vet for years and never once missed a food or meds pickup. The following week, sometime after Feb. 17, Gruda’s staff tried calling Arakawa on her cellphone to remind her the food was ready. No one picked up.

“She was devoted to those dogs,” Robert Gruda, the hospital’s owner, told USA TODAY in an interview. “She was consistent, predictable. We knew something was wrong when she didn’t pick up the food on time.”


Unbeknownst to Gruda and his staff, Arakawa, 65, was already dead, splayed on a bathroom floor of the Santa Fe home she shared with Hackman, seized by a rare but potentially lethal disease spread by rodents.
 

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I don't see anything that the vet did wrong.
“She was devoted to those dogs,” Robert Gruda, the hospital’s owner, told USA TODAY in an interview. “She was consistent, predictable. We knew something was wrong when she didn’t pick up the food on time.”

Oh you knew something was wrong but didn't go by the house to check on her? Instead the dog suffered in the crate for 9 days. All the vet did was call a dead woman and leave a voice mail even though they "knew something was wrong"

She'd NEVER missed a pickup and those dogs were her world.

You still blaming the 95 year old with Alzheimers?
 
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Oh you knew something was wrong but didn't go by the house to check on her?

It is not on any Medical Office (humans or animal) to literally go to somebodies residence and see what's up.
 

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“She was devoted to those dogs,” Robert Gruda, the hospital’s owner, told USA TODAY in an interview. “She was consistent, predictable. We knew something was wrong when she didn’t pick up the food on time.”

Oh you knew something was wrong but didn't go by the house to check on her? Instead the dog suffered in the crate for 9 days. All the vet did was call a dead woman and leave a voice mail even though they "knew something was wrong"

She'd NEVER missed a pickup and those dogs were her world.

You still blaming the 95 year old with Alzheimers?
Case CLOSED.
 

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Case CLOSED.

Yes....if you are nine hundred years old and are a complete invalid make sure somebody is around to look after your three dogs. It was selfish of him and his wife not to have somebody check on the dogs twice a week. They had workers doing "lawn and house work" but you couldn't have somebody around to make sure the dogs were ok?

Selfish....case closed.
 

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His wife was 63. That's not an age where you typically have someone check on you and the dogs every few days.
 

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His wife was 63. That's not an age where you typically have someone check on you and the dogs every few days.

All it would take is somebody checking on the dogs once a week, hell a 20 second phone call once or twice a week is all it takes.

There was no reason for that dog to die a slow and painful death like that.



Note: He was left alone with those dogs multiple times within the past year, the shape he was in, that should never have happened.
 
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