After hearing all the shit about it I was expecting it to be a shit show. Was it good? No but it was nowhere as bad as portrayed here. Its Fergie and the NBA, wtf did they expect?
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After hearing all the shit about it I was expecting it to be a shit show. Was it good? No but it was nowhere as bad as portrayed here. Its Fergie and the NBA, wtf did they expect?
Because your opinion included a jab at me will your opinion sucks
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No, that isn't how that works. You don't get to preach a standard for the song of respect, reverence and all that and make the statement of "any mutation of the song" and then when confronted with a supposed mutation oh it was a comedy it was supposed to be funny. Well she's a performer and a sexy woman, what did you expect. It didn't have to be explained at all and you explained nothing. What you did is provide your excuse for your lack of canned outrage for the mutation of the sacred anthem you expect reverence for. Roseanne Barr is a comedienne, she's supposed to be laughed at our with, did you?
Just as I said, it's selective canned outrage. You're the one that assigned the parameters of respect and reverence to the performance of the song. You either apply it to the performance of the damn thing or you don't, not just when it suits you or because you like to argue.
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Just as I said, it's selective canned outrage. You're the one that assigned the parameters of respect and reverence to the performance of the song. You either apply it to the performance of the damn thing or you don't, not just when it suits you or because you like to argue.
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It's not an argument, and I'm not arguing as there's nothing to argue about. It's a simple a statement of fact. That's it. He said the song should be performed a certain way and if it isn't it's disrespectful to something or someone. So either he meant what he said or he didn't, no argument whatsoever. Not sure what your point is but that's fine, not one really required, I'll still be coughing up phlegm in a minute and the national anthem will still be observed however each individual cares to.
On a side note, I was with a navy girl once that had a star spangled vibrator. It was painted like the flag and would play old glory and I sort of stood at attention and saluted when it came on.
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I guess my point is, Naked Gun was a pretty good enactment of how about 90% of the country would sing the anthem. They simply have no clue as to what the words are, nor do they give a shit.
Again, it's the Wal-Mart society we live in. It's just a fucking song. We are a country of slobs, and our tattoos tell our story!
Again, it's the Wal-Mart society we live in. It's just a fucking song. We are a country of slobs, and our tattoos tell our story!
So when someone gets killed in a movie charges should be filed in real life? It's a movie, granted not a good one, but a movie nonetheless.
No. He's saying if you are against gun violence, you should be protesting the movie, or STFU.
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Well ...You can poke and belittle and it's OK. You steer most threads that way. You want me to accept everybody shitting on what's good. You can condescend all you want and point out the world according to Fat Daddy Google.I don't accept that either.
Oh for fucks sake, pack that poor me bullshit right straight back in your ass. When and where did I belittle or poke at you? That's a straight up lie dude. I offered my opinion on a fucking bulletin board and you didn't like it so you took more than one shot at me for no fucking reason other than to diminish me because you can't argue the goddamn point. The thread is about the performance of the anthem. Your posts are still present in the thread. You brought up the whole "sing it a certain way" shit not me. You said it you fucking eat it.
You steered the thread on here not me.
And nothing I said is condescending, get the fuck over yourself and quit acting like a whiny little bitch. Fuck.
The world according to Fat Daddy Google? Are you three bro?
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It's the national anthem right? Does it cease to be the anthem because it's on a movie? Remember, I'm the one that has maintained the exact same position regardless of the inane attempts to alter it this entire thread.
The fact is the anthem is the anthem regardless of the forum it's presented in. It doesn't cease to be the anthem because it's on a movie. The other characters in the movie recognize it as the anthem and so does the production or the other characters wouldn't be standing with hands on hearts and shaking their heads in feigned disgust it they didn't. So what's the difference? How do you even get here with this? How do you presume i established a nexus between performing the national anthem and having actors being arrested for acting out a murder?
I can't believe you'd even try to ask this as if I somehow inferred that this would be the case.
No pengy, i can't believe I need to explain this, the actor who got killed.......... isn't dead in real life, there was no murder. If any actor really did murder someone on film than yes I suspect they'd be arrested and rightfully so
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I hope, on a more clear day, you come back to this thread and see how far off you are on this one. It's a movie, we generally don't take anything in a comedy seriously, especially one with Leslie Nielsen in it. We understand that the actors don't take it serious either.
Kaepernick was very serious about what he was doing and INTENDED to piss people off. Again, mission accomplished. Yes, it is disrespectful what he was doing, a joke in a movie generally isn't. It's not even really close.
Okay so it isn't the national anthem and that's not what he was doing in the movie, singing the national anthem, and I'm wrong because you said so and you know personally what motivated Colin Kaepernick because the reasons he's given hundreds of times in hundreds of interviews are all wrong because only you're correct. Got it.
I can come back to this thread in ten years and I'll still be 100% correct.
She's a performer performing the national anthem. Actors are performers and Leslie Nielson performed the national anthem during a performance. I stated that her performance wasn't any more disrespectful than his. That is how I see it, period. You have no authority to say my opinion is wrong and yours is right. And bringing up the movie murder thing casts far more doubt upon the logic and sensibility of your thought process on this.
Colin Kaepernick stood up for something he saw to be as unjust and discriminatory. He originally sat down during the anthem however when he received a letter from a veteran he contacted that veteran and had a discussion about the anthem and his stance. It was the veteran that suggested he kneel as that is what Marines do when an injured marine is taken from the field. Kaepernick listened to this decorated veteran and began kneeling rather than sitting. Oddly enough, discrimination and the grossly high rate of unarmed black men being shot by police continued, but so did Kaepernick. Not only that, Kaepernick received multiple death threats, was vilified in the press and by white America and even publicly called a son of a bitch by the racist, fascist traitor President. As if that wasn't enough even though he was told it threatened his livelihood, his career, his friends, his social status he still continued TO PEACEFULLY AND THOUGHTFULLY TRY TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE CONTINUING PROBLEM OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN THE UNITED STATES.
He wanted to bring about awareness and AGAIN, YOU AREN'T AN AUTHORITY AND YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT ON WHETHER HE WAS PURPOSEFULLY BEING DISRESPECTFUL. I'M A VETERAN AND FELT ZERO DISRESPECT FROM HIS ACTIONS.
You don't get to prioritize or rank the self assigned respect or reverence shown the national anthem based on your individual desire to denigrate someone you don't like nor do you get to alter it's properties and perspective importance due to the performance.
The anthem isn't about veterans and it never was. It isn't representative of anything other than what it is. If you want to assign more meaning to it personally than go right ahead, that doesn't mean WE have to acquiesce to your ideology. It just doesn't man.
If you want to show me some law or regulation that says WE have to observe things as you say than please feel free to post it here and I'll say you're right. Short of that your argument is baseless and no more correct than anyone else.
I will say this about patriotic nationalist respect. If you're of the mindset, which you obviously are, that the anthem is representational of patriotic and national pride for the United States it would seem to me that if you felt everyone should revere the flag and anthem as a symbol of American freedoms and liberties than you should consider the country and its citizens are all deserving of the same respect and liberties. However that isn't the case at all. Kaepernick saw an injustice being played out upon somne of the citizens that have the same right to the American ideals and liberties everyone else is celebrating when that anthem is played. I've always thought that fighting civil injustice was one of the tenets of the American ideal and yet not every citizen is afforded the very liberties you say made America great and when another American sacrifices so much to right that which he sees as wrong, you vilify him for "disrespecting" the nation? I am sorry brother but I'm all the way over here on that. I applaud him and consider his actions to be selfless and incredibly deserving of my respect. Like I said, I'm a veteran and if you're going to hang your hat on respecting the anthem because it shows respect to the men and women of the military, well what do you think us veterans fought for? To see some drunks at a football game stand up with a beer in their hand during a song, or equality and the civil liberties this country promises to all is citizens.
So you go on and hate on the guy if you want but don't use the word WE when describing how I'm supposed to observe the anthem whether its in a movie or at a tee ball game because I'm part of that we and i don't feel anything close to what you proposed as the norm.
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But you know enough to make a false narrative about how horribly you've been treated and to embellish that falsehood just enough to claim yourself on the right side and myself on the wrong. Do I have that about right? Yeah I do. Okay cool, glad we cleared that up.
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I'll skip over a lot of your self righteous bullshit, which there was a lot of and just say I'm not trying to tell you how to think, I never was. I'm merely pointing out the difference between what asshole kaepernick did and a FUCKING MOVIE.
You can't seem to separate the two and I'm done trying to get you to see that some of us can. And it's not because I liked the move and don't like Kaepernick, I dislike them both equally and would like to see both deported to Canada.
I used to think Kaepernick was a dink, but I haven't heard about a white cop shooting a black person in a year or so. I guess his stunt worked?
Or maybe it's Trump?
Or maybe it's Trump?
Dude it's not just this thread.i got to admit your an eloquent writer but a blow hard just the same.
