John Kerry, 2005, says our troops are "terrorizing" the Iraqi's

[dr. freeze]

" ... And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the - of - the historical customs, religious customs."


Why is this not on every national newspaper headline????

The liberal media is silent!!!

Just who's side is this guy on???

Why is he using Al Jazerra's rhetoric???

Unbelievable!!!

And this guy was almost President of America!!!

 

[kosar]

Stupid comment by him, assuming it's accurate. (which I don't really doubt)

Now, whether we'd be better off with that idiot is entirely debatable.

 

[dr. freeze]

right off of CBS' "face the nation" with bob schieffer

amazing such a statement is not all over the news huh?


can you imagine if Bush would have referred to our soldier's as "terrorizing"?

 

[kosar]

right off of CBS' "face the nation" with bob schieffer

amazing such a statement is not all over the news huh?


can you imagine if Bush would have referred to our soldier's as "terrorizing"?

Well, Fox didn't mention it all day today either. I dunno, it seems like a dumb comment to me, and it is, but maybe it's not even newsworthy to any of the press for whatever reason.

Your hypothetical about Bush doesn't make any sense. It would make sense if he was a senator and we had a democratic Prez.

I mean, *of course* he'd get trashed in your scenario since he would be the one whose deal this is and then he'd be criticizing it. Makes no sense.

 

[dr. freeze]

Well, Fox didn't mention it all day today either.

other than having a few talking head right wingers who fail to clearly elucidate Conservatism but rather are blantant Bush backers/cheerleaders, Fox News is no more conservative than any of the other garbage that is spewed on television

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Bringing democracy and rebuilding an oppressed terrorist nation is "terrorizing"?? :mj03:

How about Howard Dean today saying..."The U.S. won't win in Iraq".

Do these democrats even care what our troops think? Saying our troops terrorize women and children? Saying our troops will be deafted?

THE AMERICAN LEFT FOLKS - UNREAL

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

TOP 2 STORIES ON FOX HANNITY & COLMES RIGHT NOW

1. Howard Dean saying the U.S. will not win in Iraq.

2. John Kerry saying our troops are terorizing women and children.

Still looking at other channels, so far no mention of Dean & Kerry insulting our brave troops....

I'm sure Al Jezeera will be broadcasting these quotes all over the Middle East like they always do. Kerry and Dean represent you Democrats perfectly.

 

[gardenweasel]

i agree...with kosar and freeze......why would he say something like that?....


bush has done plenty to warrant serious criticism......and he gets plenty of it..some deservedly.......but,how can kerry...a presidential nominee,make statements like this?....

particularly after the viet nam stuff...

doesn`t he realize that this stuff will be all over the arab media?....

doesn`t he realize the affect this kind of crap has on the troops in harm`s way?

if he actually has aspirations to run in "08",what is he thinking?....

then dean says,"we can`t win the war?"...he may actually think that...many on this board think that....but,they aren`t in the political arena...


.what ever happened to tempering your remarks?....thinking about what you`re saying before you say it?....

it makes you think that we have absolutely no real leadership in this country...

as i do a 360 while looking at the political landscape,i realize that we need a changing of the guard politically in this country....

across the board..

btw...hillary was shouted down by anti-war activists at a speech in chicago...and codepink...among other radical left wing groups have promised to "bird dog" her until she totally recants totally her moderate views on the iraq war...

shouted down....disrupted her speech...were rude...disheveled looking...unkempt......

they obviously don`t understand that her stance on iraq(even as she starts to back away from the war...slowly...in a politically smart manner)...is being formulated to position her in the most positive manner for 2008....

to take a kerry or dean-like stance at this time would be politically stupid...

they don`t get it... :nooo:

 

[kosar]

I can take Deans comment in itself a little better than Kerrys, but as GW points out, it's outrageous for the supposed leader of the Democrats to be saying things like that.

I don't think there will be any 'winner' or 'loser' when we leave there. Just kind of a general 'was that worth it' consensus. It's not as if there are ranks of soldiers to defeat and to compel to surrender where we will be able to declare victory. Our enemies will be there in Iraq causing unrest long after we leave. There will likely be a hard-core fundamentalist government.

Does that mean we will have lost? No, not really. But again, 'was that worth it?'

Sure, we 'won' against the Iraqi military by default, but predictably(to some) the war against religion(and that's exactly what it is to them) is not so easily defined to be able to declare victory really at any point.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Kosar If the Iraqis think we are at war against their religion then it's awful funny that less than 1/10th of 1% of Iraqis are insurgents. It's also awful funny they come out and embrace democracy and freedom by voting with a higher voter turnout percentage than we do. Maybe come Dec. 15th we'll see how much the Iraqis think we are attacking their religeon.

 

[kosar]

Kosar If the Iraqis think we are at war against their religion then it's awful funny that less than 1/10th of 1% of Iraqis are insurgents. It's also awful funny they come out and embrace democracy and freedom by voting with a higher voter turnout percentage than we do. Maybe come Dec. 15th we'll see how much the Iraqis think we are attacking their religeon.

Always have to spell everything out for you, it seems. You may not understand this, but there really was little 'Iraqi religion.' Stay tuned.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

There was "little Iraqi Religion?"...yeah you better spell that out for me.

The Middle-East authority has spoken. I'll "stay tuned" lol.

 

[kosar]

Stay tuned as we watch a secular country that had freedom of religion(that's correct, Iraq was not a non-secular state, Einstein) turn into a fundamentalist state, a la Iran. Just what we needed! And it only will have cost us how many thousands of killed/maimed and how many dollars?

Manson,

If you actually have the ability to make posts that are not nonsensical and redundant, but thoughtful, please explain how you think this will turn out. Thank you so much.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

In fairness to Manson, Iraqi religion hasn?t yet made the email rounds, so how could he possibly know?

Dean?s comments were idiotic, but Kerry was just saying that American troops don?t need to be going door to door, it should be the Iraqi troops that we?ve been training for the past two years to show that there is progress and to try and turn around the war for the hearts and minds. Makes a lot of sense to me, but when you take one quote from a 30 minute speech or a 30 minute interview, it can be pretty misleading, but Manson already knew that.

 

[kosar]

but Kerry was just saying that American troops don?t need to be going door to door, it should be the Iraqi troops that we?ve been training for the past two years to show that there is progress and to try and turn around the war for the hearts and minds.

Was that the context? That it should be Iraqi troops doing the midnight raids instead of Americans? That obviously would change everything.

Freeze, that would be a shame if you pulled a Manson. Or maybe that's the only part of it that they had on the blog?

 

[Nosigar]

In fairness to Manson, Iraqi religion hasn?t yet made the email rounds, so how could he possibly know?

Dean?s comments were idiotic, but Kerry was just saying that American troops don?t need to be going door to door, it should be the Iraqi troops that we?ve been training for the past two years to show that there is progress and to try and turn around the war for the hearts and minds. Makes a lot of sense to me, but when you take one quote from a 30 minute speech or a 30 minute interview, it can be pretty misleading, but Manson already knew that.

:mj07: When convenient :mj07: , of course

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

That's how I heard it, but I was on the computer in the other room. there's got to be a transcript, but those never make the conservative blogs.

So much desperation for a party that controls all three branches, but I guess you dance with the horse that brung ya.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf

 

[dr. freeze]

Was that the context? That it should be Iraqi troops doing the midnight raids instead of Americans? That obviously would change everything.

Freeze, that would be a shame if you pulled a Manson. Or maybe that's the only part of it that they had on the blog?

well, if you use that context, than Kerry is saying that Iraqi's should be terrorizing women and children instead of the Americans that are terrorizing women and children

even more outrageous

using the word "terrorizing" and relating it to the American soldiers, is absolutely infuriating coming from a US Senator

but then again, this monster said things in the 70's that soldier's were taking torture not to say

 

[dr. freeze]

if you need the context, and its such a big deal, then google it yourself as you will not find it on the mainstream media websites