KERRY WAS HONEST ABOUT THE VIET NAM WAR, I HAVE PROOF

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MY WIFE IS FROM SAIGON VIET NAM. SHE HAS 8 SISTERS AND 2 BROTHERS.

THE STORIES THEY HAVE TOLD ME WOULD MAKE YOU CRY. WHAT AMERICAN SOLDIERS DID TO THEM AND THE INNOCENT FRIENDS OF THERES KILLED BY AMERICAN SOLDIERS. RAPE AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS.

IT BREAKS MY HEART WHEN MY WIFE SPEAKS OF THE WAR. HER ONE SISTER WAS KILLED IN THE WAR.

WHETHER YOU LIKE KERRY OR NOT HE WAS BEING HONEST. EVEN WITHOUT MY WIFE AND HER FAMILY ,WHY WOULD HE LIE ABOUT THAT.

SHAME ON YOU SWIFT BOAT VETS FOR DENYING SUCH IMPORTANT TRUTHS. SHAME ON YOU AND ENJOY THE REPUBLICAN PAYOFF MONEY.

THANK YOU
 

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i got a friend whose family escaped Vietnam due to our country's efforts

his sister is an oncologist and he is going into surgery...two very bright people and passionate physicians

throughout their career's they will make lots of difference in lives of many Americans....using the American Dream to pay back our country....

they tell a slightly different tale......(and its not a fairy tale either)
 

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they tell a slightly different tale

pm me and we'll exchange info. my wife corresponds with many from back home. and they all tell the same stories.

so i would check your friends stories. my wife also says alot of viet namese live in denial for their own sanity. they dont want to remember.

finally freeze leaves a logical reply.

i was starting to think you were mentally challenged. you're no eddie haskell thats for sure. he is a god :moon:

true ray but at least he admits it.
 

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""""finally freeze leaves a logical reply.""""

which is way more than your moronic ass deserves...

ohhh noooooo.....

i just saw the haskell comment....

eddie`s doing his social experiments again...

carry on"WR"......

AND KEEP USING THOSE CAPS....

lol :rolleyes:
 
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If your wife is from Siagon and you were notover there it is logical to assume she moved here than met you. If she is so anti american why did she move here?????

For the record there was very little action in Saigon during war,only after we left was things unstable there. While only had occasion to be there for 3 days I will say you couldn't walk 50 feet with out having a crowd of civilians circling you.Hardly what you would expect from someone that hated you.--and why would you rape anyone there when you had your choice of 100's for $5 max.

Would like to add that those that migrated to U.S. are some of the hardest workers you will find. They came here not even being able to speak english and many ended up owning small businesses--then you have elements in society that have been on welfare for generations and always find the same excuse.Asians in general have the lowest % of welfare parcipiants per population than any other culture by huge margin.
 

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GW:

Wrong. I realize the error I made by creating an alter ego. After busted by the slanty eyed devil, I now find myself wasting time saying who I am not. As OJ is my witness, I will positively, 100% never post anything at this forum under any other name other than by pseudoname of Eddie Haskell.

I am who I am and dats all dat I am. Now with that out of the way, I would like to reiterate my position on atrocities in both Viet Nam and Iraq. During the Viet Nam War, the NVA and Viet Cong committed unspeakable treatment of American POW's as well as the South Vietnamese.

The American response to such atrocities was expected. American soldiers did commit atrocities (ie. Mei Lai). Did all of them do it? No. However, some did. Kerry testified as to what others told him concerning these atrocities.

If we are going to take the higher moral ground, we have to acknowledge that such war crimes were committed by Americans. I would be the first to say that if I was there and witnessed the war crimes committed by the NVA and the Viet Cong, I may very well have taken part in the actions to which Kerry testified.

Its human nature. Abu Girad is understandable after beheadings by the Iraqis. Kerry is not a traitor for telling the truth. Until we realize and acknowledge that we too can be vicious, again understandably in the face of the enemies atrocities, we will not advance as a civilzation.

I realize that those of you who believe in an eye for an eye will never accept my reasoning on this issue. Furthermore, those of you who consider the Muslim culture as so drastically different from western culture that they would not accept this concept of fairness, then I cannot expect to persuady your thinking.

However, I do not believe that average Muslims, the vast majority, would treat westerners much differently than the average westerner would treat a Muslim. I don not think the average Muslim is uncivilized.

Atta and McVeigh are kindred spirits. If there is a hell, they may be sharing a room. I ask that you consider we lead and conduct ourselves by example. The swift boat guys apparently cannot come to the realization that there were some who could not resist the temptation to treat the enemy and some Vietnameese civilians as some of the enemy treated them.

Remember, this was not a conventional war by any stretch of the imagination. Jungle warfare, tunnels, boobie traps, snipers, suicide missions, coupled with difficulty in knowing who was your friend (south Vietnameese) and who was your enemy (North Vietnamese) made the enemy very difficult to identify. All this cast over an uncertainty as to why we were there in the first place.

It is a lot like today in Iraq. I feel sorry for the swift boat guys as they apprantly have been unable to come to grips with what actually occured over there in the 60's. I believe that they have to believe as they do, that America was right no matte what, in order to live with themselves. Acknowledging the atrocities commited by US soldiers, to them, is being a traitor.

Quite the opposite. Acknowledging the atrocities is the hard thing to do and will help this country advance morally and as the great nation that we are. Or should I say can be. Admit your mistakes, learn from your mistakes. Dont cover them up. Kerry should be honored for both his service during the War as well as after the war.

Eddie
 

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thats why eddie is a god.

i wish i could type so eloquently. in person i am expressive and to the point. on the computer im too lazy and think faster than i can type.

again extremely well put eddie.

truth hurts sometimes but denial should be a crime.
 

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I LOVE WR said:
MY WIFE IS FROM SAIGON VIET NAM. SHE HAS 8 SISTERS AND 2 BROTHERS.

THE STORIES THEY HAVE TOLD ME WOULD MAKE YOU CRY. WHAT AMERICAN SOLDIERS DID TO THEM AND THE INNOCENT FRIENDS OF THERES KILLED BY AMERICAN SOLDIERS. RAPE AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS.

IT BREAKS MY HEART WHEN MY WIFE SPEAKS OF THE WAR. HER ONE SISTER WAS KILLED IN THE WAR.

WHETHER YOU LIKE KERRY OR NOT HE WAS BEING HONEST. EVEN WITHOUT MY WIFE AND HER FAMILY ,WHY WOULD HE LIE ABOUT THAT.

SHAME ON YOU SWIFT BOAT VETS FOR DENYING SUCH IMPORTANT TRUTHS. SHAME ON YOU AND ENJOY THE REPUBLICAN PAYOFF MONEY.

THANK YOU

just curious,why are so many people putting so much weight on military backgrounds here?? ( REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATE ) to me,serving and running a country are two TOTALY diferant things!! i believe future is what counts here.. ( PERIOD ) now,our biggest thing right now is keeping on the offensive on them co%ksuckers who just want to kill ( TERRORIST ) and by god if u believe kerry can equal or better that then bush u guys need to get your heads examined!!! how can u want change of a gameplan that we've been on for over 2 years thats obviously working ?? ( and dont say it isn't working cause were winning and HAVE NOT been hit since ).. i just cannot believe people want to take a chance with kerry.. even if he does get elected and does good he will only AT BEST equal the job bush is doing on terrorism,but if he doesnt were FAWKED!!! ( WHY TAKE THAT CHANCE ?? ) now i know theres other areas that kerry could do better in BUT terrorism MUST BE 100% ON TOP OF and bush is that man that will do it! wake up heinz fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and WR,
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MAKE THAT OUR KITCHEN!!!!! :moon: :moon: :moon:
 

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the only difference i see about the whole vietnam debate was kerry put his ass there while bush stayed home and ate bon bons all day...
 

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Questions About Bush's Guard Service Unanswered
By Dave Moniz and Jim Drinkard
USA TODAY

Monday 23 August 2004

WASHINGTON ? At a time when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has come under fire from a group of retired naval officers who say he lied about his combat record in Vietnam, questions about President Bush's 1968-73 stint in the Texas Air National Guard remain unresolved. (Related item: Bush urges end to TV attack ads by outside groups.)

Why did Bush, described by some of his fellow officers as a talented and enthusiastic pilot, stop flying fighter jets in the spring of 1972 and fail to take an annual physical exam required of all pilots?
What explains the apparent gap in the president's Guard service in 1972-73, a period when commanders in Texas and Alabama say they never saw him report for duty and records show no pay to Bush when he was supposed to be on duty in Alabama?
Did Bush receive preferential treatment in getting into the Guard and securing a coveted pilot slot despite poor qualifying scores and arrests, but no convictions, for stealing a Christmas wreath and rowdiness at a football game during his college years?
The White House has released hundreds of pages of records, but the files released so far haven't answered those questions. Since the documents were released in February, at least a half-dozen news organizations, including USA TODAY, have filed new requests for Bush's military records under the Freedom of Information Act.
In an e-mail to USA TODAY last week, presidential spokesman Dan Bartlett said: "The president has authorized the release of his records and we are complying with all requests. Some are taking longer than others, but all will be addressed."

Past military service and qualifications to be commander in chief have become a central theme in the 2004 presidential campaign.

Questions about Bush's record predate the current campaign. The apparent gap in his Guard service first surfaced before the 2000 election, when The Boston Globe reported that Texas Guard commanders were unable to account for Bush's whereabouts from May 1972 to April 1973.

Bush has not said what he did in the Guard during that period. Aside from a statement by a former Alabama Air Guard officer who said he saw Bush report for duty there in the fall of 1972, the only evidence he was at Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Alabama was a record of a dental exam on Jan. 6, 1973, at the base.

Bush said in a TV interview in February that he would make all his military records available. That month, the White House released more than 400 pages of Bush military records, including some duplicates, and said the documents were a complete catalog of his personnel files.

But some documents still have not been made public. The White House did not release Bush's medical records from his Guard files but allowed a group of reporters who cover the White House to review them for 20 minutes. They found nothing unusual. Kerry released some of his military records earlier this year. He has also declined to release his complete medical records but showed them to reporters as Bush did.

Since February, the White House has banned all Guard and military commanders outside the Pentagon from commenting on Bush's records or service. Requests for information must go to the Pentagon's Freedom of Information Act office.

The Pentagon last week responded to a 4-month-old request from USA TODAY for additional records from Bush's files by sending another copy of documents that were released by the White House in February. The documents do not address the unexplained year in Bush's Guard service or his decision to stop flying.

The Associated Press filed a lawsuit this summer requesting copies of Bush's military records stored in a Texas archive on microfilm. It sought information that might explain why Bush did not take his flight physical and whether he showed up for duty in Alabama in the fall of 1972, AP spokesman John Stokes said.
 

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exactly kdogg.

i would rather have a hero as pres than some coward hiding behind his mommas skirt. what a pussy.

terrorists attacked the us because the us sticks their nose in everybodies business. now bush sticks it in iraq for oil. there will be another terrorist act if bush gets back in.

but morons will vote for bush because hey for people to be considered intelligent they need stupid people beneath them.

again well put kdogg
 

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Move over, Scott4USC and Scott-King of Dogs, there's new village idiot that has steamrolled right past anything you guys have shown.

I LOVE WR--is your first name, by chance, Scott?

Congrats.
 

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dawgball sorry that the truth hurts. if speaking facts makes me village idiot then i accept the crown. i want a free madjacks village idiot t shirt. can u get me one
 
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